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Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 17:46
by greenyox3
Counter-puncher wrote:
HS Press wrote:
“I honesty already believe he is the best middleweight in this country even without have a pro fight.” Added Mick.

:oo :o :shame:
That's up there with Tyson Fury having the "Best jab since Larry Holmes"

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 17:52
by WestEndRiot
If you're using that logic I'd have to say boxing was inferior if someone can come from nowhere and challenge the best boxers in the world.

If junior is half the showman his dad is I can't wait to see him. Certainly sounds like he has the skills, and if he's inherited his chin and work ethic he's gonna be a hell of a prospect.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 18:07
by reggaereggae
WestEndRiot wrote:If you're using that logic I'd have to say boxing was inferior if someone can come from nowhere and challenge the best boxers in the world.

If junior is half the showman his dad is I can't wait to see him. Certainly sounds like he has the skills, and if he's inherited his chin and work ethic he's gonna be a hell of a prospect.
I hope he's not as ugly!!! LOL

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 18:11
by jamesmcdonnell
reggaereggae wrote:One thing I find odd about boxing compared to other sports.... Plenty of guys who have not been in the sport that long do really well (comparatively) - EG Curtis Woodhouse, Chavez Jnr (and all the other Juniors - Vasquez, Sanchez etc), Anthony Mundine, poss Eubank Junior....

You can't imagine anyone taking up EG football at 19 and being premiership class. I wonder why this is... Is it because fewer people box so one can get further easier, is it because boxing is diffrenet to other sports as it involves more factors than simple skill (Eg heart, toughness), is boxing more basic than other sports, IE is about primitive attributes inherent in most men (EG fighting - most men have been in a fight and are mindful of fighting in a way you wouldn't be about tennis.)

Maybe it's all three. But the reality that Curtis Woodhouse who had no amateur experience can be very competitive with Gavin; a world champ and a guy who has prob boxed since he can walk suggests boxing is different (maybe superior?) to other sports
Perhaps its because fighting is something that all humans have some instinct for, boxing is related to primitive survival instincts, everyone knows how to punch, even toddlers do it.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 18:14
by reggaereggae
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:One thing I find odd about boxing compared to other sports.... Plenty of guys who have not been in the sport that long do really well (comparatively) - EG Curtis Woodhouse, Chavez Jnr (and all the other Juniors - Vasquez, Sanchez etc), Anthony Mundine, poss Eubank Junior....

You can't imagine anyone taking up EG football at 19 and being premiership class. I wonder why this is... Is it because fewer people box so one can get further easier, is it because boxing is diffrenet to other sports as it involves more factors than simple skill (Eg heart, toughness), is boxing more basic than other sports, IE is about primitive attributes inherent in most men (EG fighting - most men have been in a fight and are mindful of fighting in a way you wouldn't be about tennis.)

Maybe it's all three. But the reality that Curtis Woodhouse who had no amateur experience can be very competitive with Gavin; a world champ and a guy who has prob boxed since he can walk suggests boxing is different (maybe superior?) to other sports
Perhaps its because fighting is something that all humans have some instinct for, boxing is related to primitive survival instincts, everyone knows how to punch, even toddlers do it.
Yup, I'm leaning towards that

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 19:23
by SAPFO
His old man was special. If he is half that he will be good enough for me.


Hope he keeps Tina Turner too. :OhYes:

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 02:42
by crusader
Can anyone tell me about what type of amateur career he had? All I know is that while he was in the US he won the Nevada State Golden Gloves but lost in the first round of the nationals.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 07:11
by SteveDow
Apparently he was 24-2 as an amateur. I watched one of his amateur fights on youtube and he looked decent.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 07:18
by taffytoon
To say he is the best middleweight in the country already is so disrespectful it beggers belief :shame:

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 10:47
by Podmore_Birmingham
Eubank Jr got dropped heavily in his penultimate amateur fight by Nathan DeCastro - and it was a heavy knockdown.

On a side note, I'm dissapointed Channel 5 are not showing the English welterweight title fight between James Flinn and Adil Anwar, which is a 50/50 affair. I know Eubank has the name but we already know he's going to win, don't we?

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 11:25
by Podmore_Birmingham
Yeah, within the opening 15 seconds. He doubled the jab and followed with a right that stuck Eubank down. From why I was told, DeCastro looked a trifle unfortunate not to get the nod.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 12:09
by ALI
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Yeah, within the opening 15 seconds. He doubled the jab and followed with a right that stuck Eubank down. From why I was told, DeCastro looked a trifle unfortunate not to get the nod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PELwYbPT2Kc

There was nothing in that knock down, the angle is not great but his 'recovery' tells me a lot, that it was more of a slip/balance thing than anything else.

Eubank Jr certainly looks good. Who's training him now?

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 12:32
by leforge
ALI wrote:
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Yeah, within the opening 15 seconds. He doubled the jab and followed with a right that stuck Eubank down. From why I was told, DeCastro looked a trifle unfortunate not to get the nod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PELwYbPT2Kc

There was nothing in that knock down, the angle is not great but his 'recovery' tells me a lot, that it was more of a slip/balance thing than anything else.

Eubank Jr certainly looks good. Who's training him now?
Ronnie Davis.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 14:29
by SAPFO
Amatures = learning the ropes

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 15:25
by dewipowell
I didn't think Mick could top his statement that Fury is the most exciting fighter in the world until he says Eubank Jr is the best middleweight in the country, even without a fight!

Comments like that damage the sport and it confuses non-boxing people, I've spent too long explaining to non-boxing friends why people would say things like this.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 15:29
by leforge
dewipowell wrote:I didn't think Mick could top his statement that Fury is the most exciting fighter in the world until he says Eubank Jr is the best middleweight in the country, even without a fight!

Comments like that damage the sport and it confuses non-boxing people, I've spent too long explaining to non-boxing friends why people would say things like this.
Did you see macklin tarts about Mick last night before he deleted them!

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 15:30
by yiddo14
Good luck to the lad and his dad was my hero as a kid.

One thing though, I have always been dubious of amateurs who seemed to move about a lot, entering certain tournaments etc. Barry McGuigans boy seemed to pick and choose where he fought as an am.

Sounds like young chris has been getting top sparring for some time though.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 15:59
by tilt
didnt he get beat in the quater finals on the novice championships last year or somthing,dont think hes as good as people make out

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 16:47
by ThereByTheGrace
Best of luck Junior. :)

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 16:48
by rhino222
good luck young chris..hope you can cope with the pressure. is this one on live tonight?

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 16:49
by Podmore_Birmingham
rhino222 wrote:good luck young chris..hope you can cope with the pressure. is this one on live tonight?
His and Tyson's fight are, based on an e-mail i got from Hennessy Sports yesterday, the two fights Channel 5 will be showing.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 17:53
by bfchunk
Decent promo going on in the show for Eubank. Terrestrial boxing needs more than one boxer to follow to grow.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 18:00
by reggaereggae
Big build up and pressure for someone with no real amateur pedigree to speak of. I hope he does well though. Boxing needs characters and stories.

Luckily for him he hasn't inherited his Dad's looks. Let's hope he's inherited his skills and chin though.

Re: Chris Eubank is Back - Hennessy Sports Signs Junior

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 18:07
by reggaereggae
Lithuanian guy has a good future as a punchbag in a gym. Weird show - talking to Chris Snr as he wanders over to his son. Has the feel of a celebrity boxing thing.

Eubank JNr has good jab and speed. Chin hangs out a bit. Plus the lithuanian guy is dreadful