Fury Fury Fury !

[Ezzard]

I like Tyson Fury. I’d rather watch a Fury fight than a Mayweather fight. You will always get drama and momentum swings.

He has charisma and is good for the sport.

BUT please, please, please, please… he needs to understand that coming into the ring in top physical condition is a minimum. I’ve criticised Khan in the past for always talking about size, strength and conditioning and not talking about skills. Great condition should be a given. Khan is dedicated and is much improved.

Tyson Fury ought to look like Adonis. He has a great chance to do something and the average Joe has already taken to him.

[SteveDow]

I think there are a few harsh comments on this thread. Yes, Fury is limited and I fully agree with regard to his conditioning which needs huge improvements but in heavyweight terms he is a baby and there is plenty of time for him to improve. At least he fights regularly and provides good entertainment.

I think (and I've said this before) that he needs to get back out to America and work with a skilled trainer who can work more on his fundamentals. Namely head movement, putting his shoulders into punches rather than arm punching and planting his feet. His sheer size gives him advantages that most others could only dream about but clearly there is a great deal of technical work which needs to be done.

Some of his comments last week regarding the depression were very worrying however. Clearly he has experienced great trauma in his life but the environment he puts himself in for fights doesn't seem to help. Perhaps he needs to get into a training camp away from home with people who are not going to act as yes men to him all of the time. More work with Manny Steward would be a great move and the services of a good dietician to keep his weight down.

[toomanyshots]

Fury has got good handspeed and boxing ability from range

He needs to learn how to fight like the klitcko's

His fitness looked awfull, his mentality looked shit, he looked like he wasn't in the mood

why has he got a shitty canadian trainer?

without his fitness, and if he doesn't learn how to fight like klits from range then i don't reckon he will amount to anything

he isn't the hardest puncher so will have to rely on his boxing - long jab right hand etc etc

Spot on mate, he has to use his attributes best he can. He should be jabbing the head off smaller guy's!!!
Get side on and pump the jab out.....then bring the right in behind it!

[freddydoesdallas]

entertaining fighter got dropped by non puncher, too open and wont get up if he cant duck an overhand right.

i wouldnt go to one of his fights unless i was tooled up, the atmosphere has something unpalatable about it and its obvious elements of his following dont know how to behave

Completely agree about attending his fights. The more that type of behaviour goes on might mean that they will struggle to get security teams to work the fights.

On the other hand though, the crowd behaviour has got people talking this fight and future fights

[British_Heavyweight]

I was there and there didnt seen to be much trouble? bit a a cufufle and some guy jumping up towards the ring when fury was but on his bum but that was about it!

[ScottDetonator]

I can just see Channel Five's build up now...

"And here we have a fairly decent domestic level fighter, poor chin, poor conditioning, legs like a sparrow, fights a bloke we've drafted in who you'll never see again but we reckon in about 16 years time Fury might fight on the undercard of an Evander Holyfield bout and we'll be there to catch every minute live! Let's get it on!"

Sometimes bending the truth can be a good thing

[loaded_gloves]

Was a circus, and no self-respecting boxing 'fan' would shout and scream during Frazier's 10 bells. Was a disgrace.

Agreed. They are pure scum.

And Fury is too fragile.

[Happy Slapper]

I can't understand why a lot of people seem to like this guy. He's a knob and he's not very good.

I admire the fact that he's very active, but every time he gets interviewed he just winds me up.

Price will spark him clean out, and I for one can't wait.

[slapbangwhallop]

Interestingly, everyone that has commented on here and ESB who was at the fight didnt understand what all the fuss was about because there was no trouble at the whole event that involved any Fury fans.

However, those that were only privy to the goings on in the first three rows of one side of the ring seems to think that there was widespread rioting by "unpalatable" "pure scum" who just "dont know how to behave". When the reality is that there was a good atmosphere in the arena, no violence and only two over excited family members got too close to the ring apron after Fury was knocked down and they were ushered away by other family members when the round ended.

As for the ten bells issue, I was luckily close enough to the ring that I was aware that the ten bells were going to bell sounded, however, it was very noisy in the arena when the ten bells was dedicated and I would say that most simply didnt know it was happening or were streaming in from the bar.

There is a bit of balance to the Daily Mailesque knee jerk reaction of the Usual Suspects on here.

[J]

not true Lenoard, I was watching on a stream from barbados and can comments as I see fit thanks very much.

There sure was a lot fo security to-ing and fro-ing at ringside for such a supposedly benign atmosphere.

Fact is this is a re-occuring comment at a lot of furys fights, the atmopshere is tense and the feeling that violence can break out at anytime, so go figure.

Then again we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to defend it to the hilt so no point arguing the toss with you is there. You are getting very boring.

You keep sticking your head in the sand mate. Wait til fury gets beat the the threat of voilence becomes a real one, see if you are in the middle of it and you still have the same opinion.

[slapbangwhallop]

not ture Lenoard, I was watcign on a stream from barboads and can comments as I see fit thanks very much.

Fact is this is a re-occuring comment at a lot of furys fights, the atmopshere is tense and the feeling that violence can break out at anytime, so go figure.

whats not true??

[J]

those that were only privy to the goings on in the first three rows of one side of the ring seems to think that there was widespread rioting by "unpalatable" "pure scum" who just "dont know how to behave".

i wasnt ringside, therefore your comment is not true.

[slapbangwhallop]

not true Lenoard, I was watching on a stream from barbados and can comments as I see fit thanks very much.

There sure was a lot fo security to-ing and fro-ing at ringside for such a supposedly benign atmosphere.

Fact is this is a re-occuring comment at a lot of furys fights, the atmopshere is tense and the feeling that violence can break out at anytime, so go figure.

Then again we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to defend it to the hilt so no point arguing the toss with you is there. You are getting very boring.

You keep sticking your head in the sand mate. Wait til fury gets beat the the threat of voilence becomes a real one, see if you are in the middle of it and you still have the same opinion.

Oh this is an Irish/English thing now is it? What an embarrassing little toad you are.

"we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to defend it to the hilt" 'We' do, do 'we'?? Nice of you to speak for the world!! I could say the opposite about you J couldnt I. "we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to shít on it the hilt"

Actually if you read my post you would see that I said those at the fight said there wasnt an issue and those that watched it on TV/Stream thought there was - you have kind of proven my point.

Now crawl back under your rock!

[Captain Hook]

Interestingly, everyone that has commented on here and ESB who was at the fight didnt understand what all the fuss was about because there was no trouble at the whole event that involved any Fury fans.

However, those that were only privy to the goings on in the first three rows of one side of the ring seems to think that there was widespread rioting by "unpalatable" "pure scum" who just "dont know how to behave". When the reality is that there was a good atmosphere in the arena, no violence and only two over excited family members got too close to the ring apron after Fury was knocked down and they were ushered away by other family members when the round ended.

As for the ten bells issue, I was luckily close enough to the ring that I was aware that the ten bells were going to bell sounded, however, it was very noisy in the arena when the ten bells was dedicated and I would say that most simply didnt know it was happening or were streaming in from the bar.

There is a bit of balance to the Daily Mailesque knee jerk reaction of the Usual Suspects on here.

The usual one-eyed dross.....only you could defend that.

They didn't know there was a 10-bell tribute?

Fury is bloody awful, has a terrible attitude and is just waiting to be knocked out. Deal with it.

[Captain Hook]

not true Lenoard, I was watching on a stream from barbados and can comments as I see fit thanks very much.

There sure was a lot fo security to-ing and fro-ing at ringside for such a supposedly benign atmosphere.

Fact is this is a re-occuring comment at a lot of furys fights, the atmopshere is tense and the feeling that violence can break out at anytime, so go figure.

Then again we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to defend it to the hilt so no point arguing the toss with you is there. You are getting very boring.

You keep sticking your head in the sand mate. Wait til fury gets beat the the threat of voilence becomes a real one, see if you are in the middle of it and you still have the same opinion.

Oh this is an Irish/English thing now is it? What an embarrassing little toad you are.

"we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to defend it to the hilt" 'We' do, do 'we'?? Nice of you to speak for the world!! I could say the opposite about you J couldnt I. "we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to shít on it the hilt"

Actually if you read my post you would see that I said those at the fight said there wasnt an issue and those that watched it on TV/Stream thought there was - you have kind of proven my point.

Now crawl back under your rock!

PS As soon as you're pulled up on something you get personal, how dare you call the guy a "toad" for telling us how he saw it?

[J]

not true Lenoard, I was watching on a stream from barbados and can comments as I see fit thanks very much.

There sure was a lot fo security to-ing and fro-ing at ringside for such a supposedly benign atmosphere.

Fact is this is a re-occuring comment at a lot of furys fights, the atmopshere is tense and the feeling that violence can break out at anytime, so go figure.

Then again we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to defend it to the hilt so no point arguing the toss with you is there. You are getting very boring.

You keep sticking your head in the sand mate. Wait til fury gets beat the the threat of voilence becomes a real one, see if you are in the middle of it and you still have the same opinion.

Oh this is an Irish/English thing now is it? What an embarrassing little toad you are.

"we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to defend it to the hilt" 'We' do, do 'we'?? Nice of you to speak for the world!! I could say the opposite about you J couldnt I. "we know you have an agenda going on with anything remotely with Irish connections and feel the need to shít on it the hilt"

Actually if you read my post you would see that I said those at the fight said there wasnt an issue and those that watched it on TV/Stream thought there was - you have kind of proven my point.

Now crawl back under your rock!

Come on Leonard you run a respected Irish boxing site, even with the best will in the world you are hardly gonna be totally objective as your posts prove. There is only somethign wrong with that if you arent aware of it and cant admit it.

I am biased about Lennox lewis or Nigel Benn or England's rugby and cricket team, for example, I know I am and can admit it!

The fact you get so hot under the collar on this seems to indicate that you know there is truth there and your view is skewed.

As previously said my grandmother was Irish travelling stock, so if anything I should be siding with Fury no?


This isnt the first time that Fury fights have commented on as being intimidating and yet you jump to their defense? As somone involved professionally in the trade Lenaord, I should avoid the name calling, and try a bit more objective in your posts. It reflects badly on your ability to provide a balanced and valued viewpoint.

Or you can keep going and making a mug of yourself.. just friendly advice.

ps "We" by the way refers to more than one, and thanks to Captain Hook for proving my point, wasnt speaking for the world dear Lenni ...just a few on here who have expressed the same opinion. Seems you arent grown up enough to accept that, which is quite sad for man of your age really. You should really have learned more in life by now.

[slapbangwhallop]

Come on Leonard you run a respected Irish boxing site, even with the best will in the world you are hardly gonna be totally objective as your posts prove.

The fact you get so hot under the collar on this seems to indicate that you know there is truth there and your view is skewed.

As previously said my grandmother was Irish travelling stock, so if anything I should be siding with Fury no?


This isnt the first time that Fury fights have commented on as being intimidating and yet you jump to their defense? As somone involved professionally in the trade Lenaord, I should avoid the name calling, and try a bit more objective in your posts. It reflect badly on your ability to provide a balanced and valued viewpoint.

Or you can keep going and making a mug of yourself.. just friendly advice.

ps "We" by the way refers to more than one, and thanks to Captain Hook for proving my point, wasnt speaking for the world dear Lenni ...just a few on here who have expressed the same opinion. Seems you arent grown up enough to accept that, which is quite sad for man of your age really. You should really have learned more in life by now.

Thats some fairly retarded logic there J.

So because Tris Dixon runs a well respected British boxing magazine does that mean that he is not going to be objective with his views on British fighters?

"The fact you get so hot under the collar on this seems to indicate that you know there is truth there and your view is skewed."

No the fact I get hot under the collar is because I have a little patience for completely ignorant, utterly stupid, hypocritical bullshit! Apart from that I am fine.

P.S. You can shove your advice, when someone that wasnt even at a fight tries to tell me what the atmosphere at said fight was like and that I cant see past the end of my green tinted spectacle wearing nose when it comes to Irish fighters and calls into questions my objectivity then forgive me for giving that idiot a virtual tongue lashing!

P.P.S. When I was referring to the "Usual Suspects" I was referring to you and Hook! So I wouldnt exactly regard that as a ringing endorsement!

PS As soon as you're pulled up on something you get personal, how dare you call the guy a "toad" for telling us how he saw it?

Pulled up, what was I pull up on? Being Irish! Maybe I should pull every English (or Welsh!) poster up everytime they mention anything to do with an English fighter eh!?

Like people still listen to your smarmy bullshít when it comes to Fury Martin!

[NazNaci1]

He has heart but that won't get him to the top. Chris Eubank, a genuine British legend and Nigel Benn, had heart and courage in abundance, they also has other qualities. Fury just relies on out bottling people, he can't out bottle everyone. Some will match him for heart and will.

Take that away and he is a brawler / street fighter type, grinning, smirking and trying to intimidate.

That wont get him to the top. Trust me. Bullies get found out.

[IRLangmaid25]

He has heart but that won't get him to the top. Chris Eubank, a genuine British legend and Nigel Benn, had heart and courage in abundance, they also has other qualities. Fury just relies on out bottling people, he can't out bottle everyone. Some will match him for heart and will.

Take that away and he is a brawler / street fighter type, grinning, smirking and trying to intimidate.

That wont get him to the top. Trust me. Bullies get found out.

Such as Mike Tyson use to intimidate and then one night in Tokyo ran into James Buster Douglas in 1990, whom Fury is named after. I do agree he has got heart and a big pair of balls, but unless he works hard etc I am not sure how far he will go.

[J]

well done Lenn covered yourself in glory as usual.

Last i looked this was a forum, a place where folk can chat about boxing ...I can only call it as I see it and others have concurred, sorry that is so offensive to you.
IF YOU RECALL IT WAS YOU WHO ATTACKED THE VALIDITY OF MY OPINION AND CALLING NAMES.

As for a "verbal tongue lashing", do me a favour and grow up.

I have merely defended my viewpoint and returned in kind.

You are seen as biased towards Irish fighters, whether you like it or not and not just by me by many on here, you need to wake up to this. Perhaps we should run a poll?
If you cant take some constructive criticism by this stage of your life you probably never will be able to and I for one amongst others shall treat your opinions as nepotistic drivel.


I have no idea about Tris dixon, havent read his posts

[slapbangwhallop]

The usual one-eyed dross.....only you could defend that.

They didn't know there was a 10-bell tribute?

Maybe you should listen to people that were actually at the fight instead of droning on and perpetually having a pop anything to do with Fury.

Exhibit A. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/sho ... stcount=43

Exhibit B. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/sho ... stcount=46

Exhibit C. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/sho ... stcount=63

My take on it was - http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/sho ... stcount=62

Like I said, those there didnt seem to think there was much hassle, a view echoed by "British_Heavyweight" but those watching on TV did. I assume you watched on TV. But hey what to I know I am only making those opinions up because I am Irish!

[J]

aaah you poor little love. You poor victim with a complex.

have a sweetie and dry your eyes.

seriously are you ten yrs old?

[slapbangwhallop]

well done Lenn covered yourself in glory as usual.

Last i looked this was a forum, a place where folk can chat about boxing ...I can only call it as I see it and others have concurred, sorry that is so offensive to you.
IF YOU RECALL IT WAS YOU WHO ATTACKED THE VALIDITY OF MY OPINION AND CALLING NAMES.

As for a "verbal tongue lashing", do me a favour and grow up.

I have merely defended my viewpoint and returned in kind.

You are seen as biased towards Irish fighters, whether you like it or not and not just by me by many on here, you need to wake up to this. Perhaps we should run a poll?
If you cant take some constructive criticism by this stage of your life you probably never will be able to and I for one amongst others shall treat your opinions as nepotistic drivel.


I have no idea about Tris dixon, havent read his posts

No, what I find offensive is you trying to invalidate my opinion on the grounds that I am Irish because you dont agree with or couldnt comprehend my point.

Maybe you should check the sequence of posts to see who was having a go at who.

"You are seen as biased towards Irish fighters, whether you like it or not and not just by me by many on here, you need to wake up to this. Perhaps we should run a poll?"

Can I wholeheartedly support Sligo Rovers FC and remain conscious that they are not the best team in the world?

As I have said a million times, I am biased in my support but not in my opinions. If you can show me a couple of example of my blinding bias then I would be more than happy to agree with you but to accuse someone of bias and a lack of objectivity based on nationality irks me. Maybe if you, Hook and others repeat it over and over enough if becomes an accepted point of view. However, there is zero basis of the accusation in reality.

It's quite funny because many Irish boxers and promoters think I am the most harsh critic of Irish boxers out of all "journalists" that tackle the issue.

[slapbangwhallop]

aaah you poor little love. You poor victim with a complex.

have a sweetie and dry your eyes.

seriously are you ten yrs old?

Agh right, ignore the points made and label! Classic. I bet they miss you on the Uni debating team.

Adios!

[J]

in your second post you label me an idiot and a toad.

hypocrite.

AS FOR BIAS, in this thread alone.

1. you overate fury.
2. in this thrad alone you make excuses for a disgraceful show of disrespect in not adhering to decency regarding a silence of Joe frazier.

if you like ill dig about for several more examples?