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scallum wrote:Sugar ray Leonard was fearful of The Hawk? SRL claimed at a press conference he did not know who Aaron was but everybody knows this was total Bs

He was totally fearful of The Hawk...thats why he went after soft touches, like Duran and Hearns

Its such BS. Like saying someone who tackled a lion and a tiger was just ducking a cheetah.

witherspoon wrote:Journeyman Buck Smith, who fought between '87 to '09, welter to middle, has 120 ko victories.

Jorge Paez and Calvin Grove fought the last 15 round championship fight in August 1988. Sad day.

Journeyman Buck Smith, who fought between '87 to '09, welter to middle, fought Harold Brazier in a 15 round fight in August 1990.

Did you know that Buck's last fight was against Boxrec poster Damon Reed at Cruiserweight.

Amazing stuff. I remember seing Buck Smith KO Kirkland Laing in what seems a hundred years ago. Smith was getting a pasting until a lapse in concentration from Kirkland. All over red rover

bollox wrote:Amazing stuff. I remember seing Buck Smith KO Kirkland Laing in what seems a hundred years ago. Smith was getting a pasting until a lapse in concentration from Kirkland. All over red rover

That just sums up Kirkland Laing. If he was focused all the time, what could he have achieved?

Kirkland V a local Oz goer from the 80's Brian Janssen. The fight took place in 1985. Yet another bizarre set of circumstances involving Laing. It looked like Janssen rushed him, butted him then slung him to the canvas. Janssen then hit him while he was down, which should have been a DQ. it looks like Laing could have gotten up but didn't. Official result?...Janssen KO5 Laing. Weird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReCFQut2bBk

bollox wrote:Kirkland V a local Oz goer from the 80's Brian Janssen. The fight took place in 1985. Yet another bizarre set of circumstances involving Laing. It looked like Janssen rushed him, butted him then slung him to the canvas. Janssen then hit him while he was down, which should have been a DQ. it looks like Laing could have gotten up but didn't. Official result?...Janssen KO5 Laing. Weird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReCFQut2bBk

Only is a Laing fight. The shame is, that a lot of people don't give Laing any credit for beating Duran. They say Duran was having a bad night. Laing dominated him and won fair and square.

Correct. Then inexplicably but maybe predictably...Laing disappeared for quite a while afterwards instead of capitalising on the win

bollox wrote:Correct. Then inexplicably but maybe predictably...Laing disappeared for quite a while afterwards instead of capitalising on the win

Yep. Only of Planet Laing.

If they made a movie of his life, it'd have to be Terry Gilliam or Abel Ferrara directing.

Here's part 1 of Araron Pryor's fight with DuJuan Johnson. I have a sneaking suspicion Pryor was off his face on drugs before during and after the fight. Check out this absolutely mental episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcCtN64Us4

bollox wrote:Here's part 1 of Araron Pryor's fight with DuJuan Johnson. I have a sneaking suspicion Pryor was off his face on drugs before during and after the fight. Check out this absolutely mental episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcCtN64Us4

Top quality mate.

I have it on good authority that McCall was coked up in the dressing room before the Bruno fight. He refused to take a urine test after the fight.

bollox wrote:Here's part 1 of Araron Pryor's fight with DuJuan Johnson. I have a sneaking suspicion Pryor was off his face on drugs before during and after the fight. Check out this absolutely mental episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcCtN64Us4

ha. i have a sneaking suspicion you're right

Controversial wrote:The famed "5 minute break" between rounds 4 and 5 in the Cooper-Ali fights was actually only 65 seconds

I read that somewhere recently. Funny how urban legends can grow legs over the years.

bollox wrote:Kirkland V a local Oz goer from the 80's Brian Janssen. The fight took place in 1985. Yet another bizarre set of circumstances involving Laing. It looked like Janssen rushed him, butted him then slung him to the canvas. Janssen then hit him while he was down, which should have been a DQ. it looks like Laing could have gotten up but didn't. Official result?...Janssen KO5 Laing. Weird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReCFQut2bBk

One of the more bizarre finishes to a boxing match I've seen. Interesting to hear the referee Creed agree with the suggestion that Kirkland dogged it. All the talk of a rematch amounted to nothing.They never did meet again.

Creed was trying to justify his own position and lack of action re the illegal punch by Janssen. I really do hate it when we blatantly cheat or watch it happen, then pretend it didn't happen or blame the other guy. Maybe we're not the good sports that we like to portray ourselves as

Counter-puncher wrote:

bollox wrote:Here's part 1 of Araron Pryor's fight with DuJuan Johnson. I have a sneaking suspicion Pryor was off his face on drugs before during and after the fight. Check out this absolutely mental episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcCtN64Us4

ha. i have a sneaking suspicion you're right

Cocaine's a hell of a drug.

bollox wrote:Here's part 1 of Araron Pryor's fight with DuJuan Johnson. I have a sneaking suspicion Pryor was off his face on drugs before during and after the fight. Check out this absolutely mental episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcCtN64Us4

Dujuan Johnson is the oldest 20-year-old in the business.

bennie wrote:

bollox wrote:Here's part 1 of Araron Pryor's fight with DuJuan Johnson. I have a sneaking suspicion Pryor was off his face on drugs before during and after the fight. Check out this absolutely mental episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcCtN64Us4

Dujuan Johnson is the oldest 20-year-old in the business.

I must say, his hairline was a bit sparse for a nipper, wasn't it?

Yeah that's what I thought Maybe putting up with Pryor's strange antics aged him overnight

Johnson was murdered in 1985? He was found shot in the head and had a gun in his hand when they found him in an alleyway. It seems he nay have been involved in some stuff he maybe shouldn't have been

bollox wrote:Creed was trying to justify his own position and lack of action re the illegal punch by Janssen. I really do hate it when we blatantly cheat or watch it happen, then pretend it didn't happen or blame the other guy. Maybe we're not the good sports that we like to portray ourselves as

True. I was surprised there wasn't an uproar when Creed raised Janssen's hand. Even Janssen himself didn't look at all surprised.

It wasn't the first time Janssen hit Kirkland when he was down either. He clearly did it, or at least attempted to, when Kirkland hit the deck earlier in the fight.

Oleg Maskaev turned pro against a 21-0 fighter. Kinda uncommon.

Gene Tunney inhaled bus exhaust during training. Wilfredo Benetiz never trained very
hard. While training with Lennox Lewis, Mike Weaver was told to just box in sparing, he said he only knew how to fight. John Tate claimed to have a bunch of knockouts while in prison, a 6'4" 400 lbs. Former hvy champ would be hard to handle. Sorry for bunching together, no tab button.

Freddy Pendleton lost a non title fight to a 21-21 fighter while lightweight champ. Happened often back years ago, but don't happen much anymore.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article ... rchLimits=

here is a good few stories by Bill Squires. The one about Jimmy Sharman here, the legendary promoter from Australia isnt a bad one. Knocked his opponent down with one punch but ended up being caught in a leg scissors and losing.

Livingstone Cole wrote:Wait, Ollie. I don't think that's true. I think Carlos was the only one to get a KO1 over a former champ.

I'm sure there was someone else who lost to a debutant. Can't remember who.

Possibly another world champ, but I'm sure not another heavyweight champ.

"Gerrie Coetzee" won 210 out of 212 amatuer bouts. His "Brittle hand problems" started while still an amatuer.

Thomas Hearns battered Randy Shields for a full 12 rounds before a corner stoppage. No Knockdowns.
Pete Ranzany scored an 11th Round Tko over Randy Shields. Shields lost a close 15 round decision to Pipino Cuevas while
Ranzany was Ko'd by Cuevas in 2 rounds. Ranzany went the 10 round distance with Wilfredo Benitez and Nino LaRocca.
He also beat Sean O'Grady in Sean's last pro bout.

Tiger Ted Lowry,a carear sub 500. fighter,lost 2 close decisions to Rocky Marciano.
Marion Wilson,with a record of 7-14,fought Ray Mercer to a draw,the same night that Tommy Morrison got the gift draw
after his bout against Ross Purrity.

Duane Thomas-John Mugabi,In they're december 1986 bout,Mugabi demanded before the bout that they dont use Thumb Tabbed gloves,they obliged his demand,but it backfired on Mugabi as he got badly thumbed in the 3rd round and lost by 3rd round tko. Duane Thomas went on to lose a decision to Power Punching Lupe Aquino who had 21 ko's in 30 wins at the time. Aquino and Thomas both went on to lose to light punching Gianfranco Rossi,Aquino by decision and Thomas by a brutal 7th round tko ! At the time of the Thomas-Rossi bout,Rossi only had 13 ko's out of 42 wins !