If you only have time to watch one fight this weekend...

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Re: If you only have time to watch one fight this weekend...

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Counter-puncher wrote:
damianhucker1 wrote:
Its not about what weight they are and being ignorant in not acknowledging the little guys , its the fact that the lower weights are dominated by asian sounding names in the main , names who dont speak english , cant come across to appeal to us for us to begin to learn anything about them unless they are mega stars like pacman .

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but i don't want to learn anything about them. I just want to watch them beat each other near-senseless.


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Its all about Talking with there Fist's A Good Fight is a Good Fight No Matter what Language they speak :box:
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Datsue wrote:Er, Damian, that's your opinion, he's got his. Some people, including me, simply do not give a shit about the dudes' names, ethnicity, nationality, & personalities. We do not care that you cannot pronounce their surname, nor that you do not know which bit of their name is the surname. That you care about all that shit (as you have spent many posts explaining at great, tedious length) does not change the fact we just enjoy watching the actual fights.

Just the fights. The lads in these divisions have good skills & put on really hard fights. You get wars all the time. That's enough for us.

Your list of excuses for not watching is irrelevant. I'm not going to tune in to watch two fat carthorses smother each other with their spare tyres, you're not going to watch epic fights with pace, skill & dramatic shifts of fortune. Okay. But can you not see that as a fan of boxing, what you're saying is that the fights don't matter & that rather there's some other promotional/identification issue that you look for before you'll watch a sporting contest? & that hurdle has to be cleared before you'll watch a fight?

If you cannot see that your attitude on this is maybe a tiny smidgen arse-backwards, & probably deserved C-P's polite but humorous response, I really don't know what else to say. I knew Macho was doing his impression of someone's choleric Gran, hence my tongue-in-cheek responses in kind to him. I'd've thought that was fvcking obvious.

PS: "the majority view". I am sure the thousands packing the Saitama Super Arena or the Korakuen Stadium to watch Akira Yaegashi fight are totally, totally down with the "majority view."

PPS:
it may be a cracking fight but if i dont know the fighters im not gonna watch it
Well, that is just fvcking blindingly stupid, then, isn't it? Because you're not going to watch a whole lot of fights if you avoid watching fights where you "don't know the fighters".
Datsue , i wasnt for one second saying people shouldnt watch it , i was replying to those criticising people for not watching it as if people who want to watch it somehow have a superior boxing knowledge which simply isnt true , i prefer heavier lads , i can relate to them easier so theres an interest in the fight , simple as that , to say my point about it may be a good fight but i wont watch if i dont know is stupid somehow is crap , will you tune into a fight between 2 random guys youve never heard of ??????? most will not , its those lighter lads that people dont know of .

How can anyone take some sort of highground towards what i said when all i did was offer a possible explanation when some of the guys on here were rediculing others for having a preference against it .

I seriously think the reason people arent as bothered about the lighter guys is for the very reasons i stated , its not really about opinions is it , as its a fact the heavier guys garner much more interest and much more revenue on average than the lighter ones (im refering to south of bantamweight really before someone says PBF or Pacman FCS)
If i am wrong to lean towards facts then more fool you .

As a promotors point of view , the name has to sell , its the main part of the business and in some instances can be more important than actual talent .
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Counter-puncher wrote:
damianhucker1 wrote:
Its not about what weight they are and being ignorant in not acknowledging the little guys , its the fact that the lower weights are dominated by asian sounding names in the main , names who dont speak english , cant come across to appeal to us for us to begin to learn anything about them unless they are mega stars like pacman .

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but i don't want to learn anything about them. I just want to watch them beat each other near-senseless.
If you didnt learn anything about them you would never have tuned into the fight in the first place , pretty simple idea fellas , im not talking rocket science here .

Will you be watching the fight i mentioned above in an earlier post ?????

No , its not on tv here , because it wont sell , no one will watch it as they are UNHEARD of , you want to hunt it down on a stream ? as you likely dont know anything about them i doubt that too ,
Still think a name doesnt matter ?
You only tune in to watch a fighter specifically if you know / learned something about him previously , ok might just see by chance occasionally , but thats not what were saying here , Still it might be a cracking fight , will that make you an idiot for missing it ?? as thats basically what impression your trying to give , im no idiot for missing a fight i dont care about , im no worse off regardless as if something spectacular happens ill find it on the internet the next morning , end of .
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Datsue wrote:

PPS:
it may be a cracking fight but if i dont know the fighters im not gonna watch it
Well, that is just fvcking blindingly stupid, then, isn't it? Because you're not going to watch a whole lot of fights if you avoid watching fights where you "don't know the fighters".
No mate its not Stupid , i didnt say i would avoid anything , please read correctly , i was merely offereing a possible explanation as to reasons most do not care about the lightest weights , if its on an undercard etc im not gonna turn over because i dont know them , just maybe wouldnt tune in to SPECIFICALLY watch fighters i dont know , why would i , wouldnt make sense to do so really .

so wheras you normally have good points on most subjects i couldnt care less how many agree with what youve said , cos its crap , youve simply made a daft response that makes no sense as all youve stated is your opinion , no reasoning as to why thats your view etc , ive based my view not on wholely my opinion but what i believe is the reason behind people having that opinion
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Mate, think of my reaction this way: how many times have I turned up in a heavyweight thread, explaining to all & sundry that no-one in Japan or Mexico give a shit about Tyson Fury?

Answer: none.

So why go to the trouble of going to a thread between two fighters who weigh about as much as your left leg, with unpronounceable names, fighting for a belt in a faraway place, & then, amongst the people rhapsodising about it, start explaining the painfully obvious reasons why the average Brit/Yank in the street doesn't want to watch said fight? I simply don't understand why anyone would do that, I really don't. I am aware said fighters are deemed unattractive to the general sports public. That's okay. I'm not going to persuade them, & I'm not gonna try. But it comes off like you're in here trying to convince us of... Something. Like I said, I think we all know that this fight wouldn't get good numbers on Channel Five or whatever. No-one's said that. Macho started his impression of someone's bitter grandad, which was meant partly in jest, & I replied humorously in kind by pretending I was actually talking to myself.

I'm not proud of this, but I can tell you what colour shorts Ricardo Lopez wore for every single time he won a belt (true). I like watching fights like this. I don't go talking about Toshiaki Nishioka's counter-punching in (many?) Matt Skelton vs Tom Dallas threads. I created a thread about two little dudes smashing the fvck outta each other. We've had two pages & about six posts about the fight, which was actually epic. I mean, fvcking titanic. I mean, have you watched it? Go on, have a look, it's great. You so could've in the time you've been taking offence. Several times, probably. Please stop trying to tell me about the many reasons why people who don't really like boxing won't watch it. I'm a boxing fan. We're all boxing fans. We know all this already.

Go watch the fvcking fight, mate.

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Datsue wrote: that you care about all that shit (as you have spent many posts explaining at great, tedious length)

This is just the final example of something ive just noticed you wrote , utter bollox as it was in reply to my FIRST post on this subject .

You have been talking crap on this thread , time to accept it , that one sentance above proves to me how worthy your opinion is , and safe in the knowledge that i will now take your views with a pinch of salt .

ps . the thread title said " if you only have time to watch one fight this weekend "

So obviously i was going to take a look , i dont care if you dont post in heavyweight threads ,thats your perogative , as already stated i was replying to those slating people for prefering heavier lads NOT wether this fight will be any good , if you had put the name of the fighters in the thread title it would have garnered less interest on this forum than a domestic heavyweight bout , that much im certain of , and i wouldnt have posted , there you go take that lesson with you for future dates .
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Re: If you only have time to watch one fight this weekend...

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You still haven't watched it, have you?
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Datsue wrote:You still haven't watched it, have you?
No
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