Re: OT - England manager?
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 08:54
lol yeah I was just thinking that, what's Tel up to nowadays?JamesH wrote:As a Tottenham man, I'd keep Harry till the end of the season, and then I'd bring El Tel back to the Lane
lol yeah I was just thinking that, what's Tel up to nowadays?JamesH wrote:As a Tottenham man, I'd keep Harry till the end of the season, and then I'd bring El Tel back to the Lane
deadpan wrote:The deification of Henry, sorry, Harry Redknapp is befuddling. He's won next to nowt, has shown a chilling lack of loyalty in the past and overspent and left Portsmouth in tatters.
But he's canny. Is a sound bloke for the media, so they all love him, perpetuates the loveable 'Arry persona and everyone loves his harmless inside-out face.
Watch it all unfold post Euros with the sudden retrospective wisdom -
- He stuck with Lampard because he's a relative
- Biased towards his Spurs players
- How could he provide success with such little experience of European football
- He's too pally with the players
It'll happen. When McLaren began, his 'Stevie G'-isms were supposedly a breath of fresh air. Soon as results went tits up we apparently needed discipline. All hail Capello. He takes no crap, just what we need. Then the World Cup debacle and seemingly it's no wonder as morale was low as he treated kept the players cooped up in camp, the evil authoritarian.
The players aren't good enough. And neither is our 'Arry.
Problem is some of those team would probably beat usearsjohn wrote:Surely it has to be F rank Warren.....hear me out.
He could engineer Englands entry into a tournament called something arbitrary like Cup of the World for Real Champions and invite heavyweight names from around the world - China, India, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Singapore - and the ensuing victory would lead England to be heralded as champions of the world. A series of friendlies could be lined up as world title defences - take your pick from opponents around the world - Chad, Liechtenstein, Guam, etc - as England go on a 16 match unbeaten run.
And with the players contracted to clubs, he wouldn't need to worry about finding money to pay them!
He's be no worse than Steve McLaren was.
i can see it....earsjohn wrote:Surely it has to be F rank Warren.....hear me out.
He could engineer Englands entry into a tournament called something arbitrary like Cup of the World for Real Champions and invite heavyweight names from around the world - China, India, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Singapore - and the ensuing victory would lead England to be heralded as champions of the world. A series of friendlies could be lined up as world title defences - take your pick from opponents around the world - Chad, Liechtenstein, Guam, etc - as England go on a 16 match unbeaten run.
And with the players contracted to clubs, he wouldn't need to worry about finding money to pay them!
He's be no worse than Steve McLaren was.
jimcook wrote:i can see it....earsjohn wrote:Surely it has to be F rank Warren.....hear me out.
He could engineer Englands entry into a tournament called something arbitrary like Cup of the World for Real Champions and invite heavyweight names from around the world - China, India, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Singapore - and the ensuing victory would lead England to be heralded as champions of the world. A series of friendlies could be lined up as world title defences - take your pick from opponents around the world - Chad, Liechtenstein, Guam, etc - as England go on a 16 match unbeaten run.
And with the players contracted to clubs, he wouldn't need to worry about finding money to pay them!
He's be no worse than Steve McLaren was.
but then when england are billed to be playing the big boys and all the tickets are sold, they all mysteriously pull out , one by one until the only opponents left are angel islington under 11's....
No chance dont want EL Tel back he not done anything for years! The FA were talking today they want manager for next two world cups Redknapp be too old for that.JamesH wrote:As a Tottenham man, I'd keep Harry till the end of the season, and then I'd bring El Tel back to the Lane
lefthook82 wrote:deadpan wrote:The deification of Henry, sorry, Harry Redknapp is befuddling. He's won next to nowt, has shown a chilling lack of loyalty in the past and overspent and left Portsmouth in tatters.
But he's canny. Is a sound bloke for the media, so they all love him, perpetuates the loveable 'Arry persona and everyone loves his harmless inside-out face.
Watch it all unfold post Euros with the sudden retrospective wisdom -
- He stuck with Lampard because he's a relative
- Biased towards his Spurs players
- How could he provide success with such little experience of European football
- He's too pally with the players
It'll happen. When McLaren began, his 'Stevie G'-isms were supposedly a breath of fresh air. Soon as results went tits up we apparently needed discipline. All hail Capello. He takes no crap, just what we need. Then the World Cup debacle and seemingly it's no wonder as morale was low as he treated kept the players cooped up in camp, the evil authoritarian.
The players aren't good enough. And neither is our 'Arry.
Everything you said will happen. As sure as night follows day
hes practically the only english manager in the premiership...what is there2 or 3 at most? thats the sad thing.Old bones Ian wrote:You don't have to be a great league manager to be a great internationsl manager.
and oddly enough, Harry Redknapp is the most successful english manager in the premiership.
Football League Division Three: 1986–87
Football League Trophy: 1983–84
West Ham United
UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1999
Portsmouth
Football League Division One: 2002–03
FA Cup: 2007-08
rather sad when you look at it really, that no other english manager has got a better record
Alan Pardew he boys took a beating today!jimcook wrote:hes practically the only english manager in the premiership...what is there2 or 3 at most? thats the sad thing.Old bones Ian wrote:You don't have to be a great league manager to be a great internationsl manager.
and oddly enough, Harry Redknapp is the most successful english manager in the premiership.
Football League Division Three: 1986–87
Football League Trophy: 1983–84
West Ham United
UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1999
Portsmouth
Football League Division One: 2002–03
FA Cup: 2007-08
rather sad when you look at it really, that no other english manager has got a better record
Roy Hodgson & Steve McLaren have won top flight domestic titles and cups so i'd say they have been more successfulOld bones Ian wrote:You don't have to be a great league manager to be a great internationsl manager.
and oddly enough, Harry Redknapp is the most successful english manager in the premiership.
Football League Division Three: 1986–87
Football League Trophy: 1983–84
West Ham United
UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1999
Portsmouth
Football League Division One: 2002–03
FA Cup: 2007-08
rather sad when you look at it really, that no other english manager has got a better record
Yep, there are already stories that the England players are not happy that they weren't consulted on where they should be based for the Euro's.banjo wrote:As I said in the OT forum thread on this, it doesn't matter who the manager is, the problem is we've got a bunch of arrogant tossers massively lacking in skill and passion who seem to think they'll turn up and win and if a strict disciplinarian such as Capello can't kick them into touch then what hope does anyone else have?
i was watching Zambia v Ivory Coast last night, and was wondering if that was part of the problem with the ivory coast team.banjo wrote:As I said in the OT forum thread on this, it doesn't matter who the manager is, the problem is we've got a bunch of arrogant tossers massively lacking in skill and passion who seem to think they'll turn up and win and if a strict disciplinarian such as Capello can't kick them into touch then what hope does anyone else have?
I heard bellamy i think on the radio complaining that the senior players weren't consulted on the new wales manager, basically whinging because they didn't get their own way. Top flight footy nowadays winds me right up, Im an everton fan but I'm being drawn to finding a non-league team to follow, purely because its actual footy, not a bunch of prima donnas rolling round on the floor when someone goes near them and constanly whining about being hard done to.bripez wrote:Yep, there are already stories that the England players are not happy that they weren't consulted on where they should be based for the Euro's.banjo wrote:As I said in the OT forum thread on this, it doesn't matter who the manager is, the problem is we've got a bunch of arrogant tossers massively lacking in skill and passion who seem to think they'll turn up and win and if a strict disciplinarian such as Capello can't kick them into touch then what hope does anyone else have?
This comes after Wales players were also not happy about not being consulted as to who should be the Wales manager.
Since when were the players "consulted" on all this stuff ?
Completely agree, I ran a team for a few years and some of the egos (for no reason whatsoever) of the players was unbelievable. Everyone thinks they've got a god given right to play nowOld bones Ian wrote:Having been involved for 18 years with local football, I've called it a day. The young players now are so hard to get to turn up for training, motivating them is harder and harder.
Some of the lads will work hard, and help out.
But over the last few years its gotten worse. So no more for me, I think the way pro footballers carry on does have an effect will young park footballers.
Or I've just become bitter !