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Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 17:05
by yancey
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Several of them are tricky fights, IMO.
They are, a lot of guys that he could stop or get out-boxed by. Marciano isn't tricky at all, Rock would get his ass whipped.
Agree 100%.

Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 18:07
by Goodnight, Irene
^^^What a shocker :lol:

Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 18:45
by yancey
Goodnight, Irene wrote:^^^What a shocker :lol:

What, am I supposed to go away or crawl under a rock somewhere and keep my opinions to myself?

:witzend:

Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 18:53
by Goodnight, Irene
You're supposed to not take posts like that one so hard, mate :TU:

Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 18:59
by yancey
Goodnight, Irene wrote:You're supposed to not take posts like that one so hard, mate :TU:

I forgot to add a :wink:.

:TU:

Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 19:00
by Goodnight, Irene
How do you see Holyfield afring in the rest of these, anyway?

Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 19:06
by yancey
bengulnaci1 wrote:At Cruiser...

Michael Spinks - I'd tip Spinks, though it would be tight.
Floyd Patterson - Loved Patterson @ LH. Perfect weight for him and picture him being more than a handful for 'Vander.
Billy Conn - Tough match up again. Gritty fighter but I think Holyfield could gut this one out and take a close decision.
Ezzard Charles - Super smooth Charles would be too much for Holyfield. Too much.
Bob Foster - I think Holyfield might be able to withstand the bombs and possibly win on points, then again, could see him dropped and stopped on his feet here, too.

At Heavy...

Rocky Marciano - Holfield would bust Rocky up, flooring him and winning on cuts, ahead on points.
Larry Holmes (Spinks rematch, 1986) - Close, close fight. Larry appeared to tired and a bit jaded. Holy would be too busy and punch in combo, too often for the aging champ. Holyfield pts.
Joe Walcott - Ahhh, great match up here, on his worse day, Walcott loses clearly on pts, but in the mood, Joe has plenty to match Holyfield, maybe dropping him once or twice, winning a surprisng decision.
Ken Norton - Good fighter and counter puncher, difference was Holyfield could adapt his game a little more and take it to Ken, whereas Ken probably was not really versatile enough to switch it around. Ken struggled with pressure and Holyfield would win well, despite some solid moments by Ken.
Jack Johnson - Johnson is pretty underrated, imo and he has the strength, power and skill level to offset Evander. I would not be surprised with a Johnson win here, on pts.

PS I can't really can put any of these results down as 'a lock', well with the exeception of Charles, in my opinion.
This all seems pretty reasonable. I would take Holyfield over JJW. Don't really know enough about Jack Johnson to have a worthwhile opinion.

Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 19:24
by dempseyfire
He beats Patterson, Foster, the 1985 Holmes, and Spinks. Conn for me is 50/50. Loses to Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Norton and Johnson.

Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 16 Feb 2012, 07:47
by loaded_gloves
Holyfield is one of the best ever. With arrogant oafs like Lewis and Bowe and nut jobs like Tyson, Moorer and McCall, having Holyfield to light up the 90s scene was like having a 70s era fighter there. He was pure old school and good at everything, and an incredible warrior.

Re: Evander Holyfield VS...

Posted: 16 Feb 2012, 09:53
by theone
Cruiser- Loses to Michael Spinks and Charles on points. Is troubled by Conns movement but pounds out a clear decision. Exciting with Foster for a few rounds until Holyfield ends matters suddenly around the fifth round. Patterson, although underrated in most head to head matches, has a style that seems tailor made for Holyfield; ko 3.

Heavyweight- Larry Holmes is 86 is close enough to his prime to take a razor thin decision from Holyfield. His jab alone would have Holyfield befuddled all night.
Norton has the style to give Holyfield hell...man, this is a close one. I'll say Norton close decision....but wouldn't bet on it.
Walcott would be pesky, really really pesky, but Holyfield eventually catches him, tko or ko mid to late.

Holyfield would blast both out Marciano and Johnson out early.