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Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 08:36
by cocobongo
youngrell wrote:
bripez wrote:
cocobongo wrote:all the people writing Derry off are in for a shock here!
What is it with Scousers ?
Fiercely loyal/blind!
We will see :bag:

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 09:37
by Autobarn
crolla's not been landing the hurtful shots in recent bouts and his career seems to be losing momentum.

he's already been this route, knocking out scousers (john watson) which i think he'll do again.

matthews has looked vulnerable to head and body & many think he's ready to go. crolla is a sharp boxer who should get the stoppage win. matthews is a good, awkard boxer but this is crolla's time, surely.

not meaning any disrespect, but matthews seems to have a lot of lives. obviously there will be pressure for derry to perform, so hopefully a memorable fight - both guys have been in a couple of those, before.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 09:16
by bripez
cocobongo wrote:
youngrell wrote:
bripez wrote: What is it with Scousers ?
Fiercely loyal/blind!
We will see :bag:
There we go again !! .......

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you mate, but it would help the debate if you gave your thoughts as to why you think Matthews will win (trying to avoid another scouse cliche "he will come back stronger" if possible) :lol:

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 09:17
by bripez
derry wrote: am getting took out of my comfort zone and away from family and friends for 8 weeks then come fight night il be more than ready ,
Is it right you have left Oliver Harrison and will be training in Scotland ??

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 14:54
by derry
Yes am back with my old coach Danny Vaughan and Paul weir , me and Oliver are still close he's a top fella and a world class coach and as improved me massively , am up in Scotland on Sunday night il be there till the weigh in, I need taking out of environment and to prepare the best I can to fight Anthony , Danny Vaughan nose me better than anyone and am buzzing am back with him and looking forward to training under him again , and am getting world class sparring , burns Simpson Appleby Arthur and Harrison , , so come fight night il be more than ready knowing have done everything properly

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 25 Feb 2012, 06:17
by Counter-puncher
I think Matthews' reach will give Crolla pause for thought early but he'll keep digging the body and wear him down. either points decision pulling away in hte late rounds, or late stoppage. IMO.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 27 Feb 2012, 08:56
by cocobongo
bripez wrote:
cocobongo wrote:
youngrell wrote: Fiercely loyal/blind!
We will see :bag:
There we go again !! .......

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you mate, but it would help the debate if you gave your thoughts as to why you think Matthews will win (trying to avoid another scouse cliche "he will come back stronger" if possible) :lol:
*Mathews could at least get the spelling right

I like Crolla but i genuinley believe Derry has the skills to beat him hes a big lightweight I dont think Crollas power is up to much were as Derry has stopped 4 opponents since moving up to lightweight (obviously not of crollas level but still shows for something) even gavin rees said he got caught by a straight right in the fight which stopped him in his tracks, also people questioning Derrys durability hes only been down vs Marsili as a lightweight (Prizefighter was at SFW) and i think this move to Scotland will do him well look how good a change served him just over 2 years ago and i believe this set up will have the same results!

:bag: :bag:

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 28 Feb 2012, 06:22
by safeerah
leforge wrote:This fight is scheduled for April 21st. I think Crolla wins surprised Matthews is able to fight after his stoppage loss for British,
Mathews should retire for his own health, he has taken some bad beatings, everytime he steps up he seems to take a lot of punishment, he has had good career, maybe it is time to do something else for the sake of himself and his family.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 07 Mar 2012, 05:43
by derry
safeerah wrote:
leforge wrote:This fight is scheduled for April 21st. I think Crolla wins surprised Matthews is able to fight after his stoppage loss for British,
Mathews should retire for his own health, he has taken some bad beatings, everytime he steps up he seems to take a lot of punishment, he has had good career, maybe it is time to do something else for the sake of himself and his family.
You don't no me to judge me and doesn't everyboxer prepare to be in a tough fight and most get a beating , my health is good am a 28 year old not a 35 year old , and if I didn't think my health was good I would walk away and have got a team who would tell me to walk away , I have had a good run bought houses and a business so if you think am doing this for cash you need to think again , trust me April 21 people might get a shock but to me it will just be another win against a blown up featherweight

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 07 Mar 2012, 06:33
by Floatlikeabutterfly
Good luck Derry :TU: , I do like the look of Crolla good boxer who throws lots of shots, but I also think Derry is a top boxer, who has the reach advantage, and has an excellent jab and decent power, should be a great fight, may the best man win. :box:

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 07 Mar 2012, 17:09
by boxingfarmer30
derry wrote:
safeerah wrote:
leforge wrote:This fight is scheduled for April 21st. I think Crolla wins surprised Matthews is able to fight after his stoppage loss for British,
Mathews should retire for his own health, he has taken some bad beatings, everytime he steps up he seems to take a lot of punishment, he has had good career, maybe it is time to do something else for the sake of himself and his family.
You don't no me to judge me and doesn't everyboxer prepare to be in a tough fight and most get a beating , my health is good am a 28 year old not a 35 year old , and if I didn't think my health was good I would walk away and have got a team who would tell me to walk away , I have had a good run bought houses and a business so if you think am doing this for cash you need to think again , trust me April 21 people might get a shock but to me it will just be another win against a blown up featherweight
I know you and this is about cash $$$$$$ Theres no i in team and you only think about your self.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 07 Mar 2012, 18:56
by dan28uk
should be a nice work out for crolla, will be abit to much for matthewsi feel who if loses mayb should go back into retirement permantly, i think a good fight will be if crolla and rees both win meet for the european belt and then face winner of burns and mitchell providing burns comes through moses.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 08 Mar 2012, 05:37
by derry
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
derry wrote:
safeerah wrote: Mathews should retire for his own health, he has taken some bad beatings, everytime he steps up he seems to take a lot of punishment, he has had good career, maybe it is time to do something else for the sake of himself and his family.
You don't no me to judge me and doesn't everyboxer prepare to be in a tough fight and most get a beating , my health is good am a 28 year old not a 35 year old , and if I didn't think my health was good I would walk away and have got a team who would tell me to walk away , I have had a good run bought houses and a business so if you think am doing this for cash you need to think again , trust me April 21 people might get a shock but to me it will just be another win against a blown up featherweight
I know you and this is about cash $$$$
$$ Theres no i in team and you only think about your self.
well trust me u mustn't no me that well ;)

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 08 Mar 2012, 06:07
by dan28uk
derry wrote:
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
derry wrote: You don't no me to judge me and doesn't everyboxer prepare to be in a tough fight and most get a beating , my health is good am a 28 year old not a 35 year old , and if I didn't think my health was good I would walk away and have got a team who would tell me to walk away , I have had a good run bought houses and a business so if you think am doing this for cash you need to think again , trust me April 21 people might get a shock but to me it will just be another win against a blown up featherweight
I know you and this is about cash $$$$
$$ Theres no i in team and you only think about your self.
well trust me u mustn't no me that well ;)

been in a few wars though, crolla hasn't been beaten at lightweight and had a good win against willie limond last time out what chinks have you seen in his armour?

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 14 Mar 2012, 01:29
by boxingfarmer30
derry wrote:
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
derry wrote: You don't no me to judge me and doesn't everyboxer prepare to be in a tough fight and most get a beating , my health is good am a 28 year old not a 35 year old , and if I didn't think my health was good I would walk away and have got a team who would tell me to walk away , I have had a good run bought houses and a business so if you think am doing this for cash you need to think again , trust me April 21 people might get a shock but to me it will just be another win against a blown up featherweight
I know you and this is about cash $$$$
$$ Theres no i in team and you only think about your self.
well trust me u mustn't no me that well ;)
No your right i don't know you that well thought i did but like every other boxer i've helped out all DOGS.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 14 Mar 2012, 03:07
by Tommy Gunn13
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
derry wrote:
boxingfarmer30 wrote: I know you and this is about cash $$$$
$$ Theres no i in team and you only think about your self.
well trust me u mustn't no me that well ;)
No your right i don't know you that well thought i did but like every other boxer i've helped out all DOGS.
I take it you two have had a fall out,you used to be his number 1 defender on here...

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 14 Mar 2012, 11:03
by fasteddie
bripez wrote:
cocobongo wrote:
youngrell wrote: Fiercely loyal/blind!
We will see :bag:
There we go again !! .......

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you mate, but it would help the debate if you gave your thoughts as to why you think Matthews will win (trying to avoid another scouse cliche "he will come back stronger" if possible) :lol:
derry has a good boxing brain on him,he can fight this fight long if need be and keep crolla at the end of his jab,i believe derry can win this if he fights his fight, he fights crolla's fight and i think crolla wins,derry is a class boxer and come fight night win,lose or draw crolla will know he has been in a fight :box:

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 14 Mar 2012, 16:17
by boxingfarmer30
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
derry wrote: well trust me u mustn't no me that well ;)
No your right i don't know you that well thought i did but like every other boxer i've helped out all DOGS.
I take it you two have had a fall out,you used to be his number 1 defender on here...

I did your right,i'd still defend him now think the lad is a fine boxer but as a man i've changed my opinion.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 14 Mar 2012, 16:21
by boxingfarmer30
fasteddie wrote:
bripez wrote:
cocobongo wrote: We will see :bag:
There we go again !! .......

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you mate, but it would help the debate if you gave your thoughts as to why you think Matthews will win (trying to avoid another scouse cliche "he will come back stronger" if possible) :lol:
derry has a good boxing brain on him,he can fight this fight long if need be and keep crolla at the end of his jab,i believe derry can win this if he fights his fight, he fights crolla's fight and i think crolla wins,derry is a class boxer and come fight night win,lose or draw crolla will know he has been in a fight :box:
We where offered Crolla a yr or so ago and refused the bout, Derry never as he'd fight anyone anywhere but i had a say in who he fought and for me it was too much of an ask, other people involved also thought the same this fight is about one thing only.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 08:58
by cocobongo
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
fasteddie wrote:
bripez wrote: There we go again !! .......

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you mate, but it would help the debate if you gave your thoughts as to why you think Matthews will win (trying to avoid another scouse cliche "he will come back stronger" if possible) :lol:
derry has a good boxing brain on him,he can fight this fight long if need be and keep crolla at the end of his jab,i believe derry can win this if he fights his fight, he fights crolla's fight and i think crolla wins,derry is a class boxer and come fight night win,lose or draw crolla will know he has been in a fight :box:
We where offered Crolla a yr or so ago and refused the bout, Derry never as he'd fight anyone anywhere but i had a say in who he fought and for me it was too much of an ask, other people involved also thought the same this fight is about one thing only.
Strange Crolla was thought of to big an ask over a year ago when he would of probably only had 1 fight at lightweight but didnt see a former world champ in rees was to big an ask??

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 12:05
by fasteddie
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
fasteddie wrote:
bripez wrote: There we go again !! .......

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you mate, but it would help the debate if you gave your thoughts as to why you think Matthews will win (trying to avoid another scouse cliche "he will come back stronger" if possible) :lol:
derry has a good boxing brain on him,he can fight this fight long if need be and keep crolla at the end of his jab,i believe derry can win this if he fights his fight, he fights crolla's fight and i think crolla wins,derry is a class boxer and come fight night win,lose or draw crolla will know he has been in a fight :box:
We where offered Crolla a yr or so ago and refused the bout, Derry never as he'd fight anyone anywhere but i had a say in who he fought and for me it was too much of an ask, other people involved also thought the same this fight is about one thing only.
the lonsdale belt??

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 12:06
by fasteddie
cocobongo wrote:
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
fasteddie wrote: derry has a good boxing brain on him,he can fight this fight long if need be and keep crolla at the end of his jab,i believe derry can win this if he fights his fight, he fights crolla's fight and i think crolla wins,derry is a class boxer and come fight night win,lose or draw crolla will know he has been in a fight :box:
We where offered Crolla a yr or so ago and refused the bout, Derry never as he'd fight anyone anywhere but i had a say in who he fought and for me it was too much of an ask, other people involved also thought the same this fight is about one thing only.
Strange Crolla was thought of to big an ask over a year ago when he would of probably only had 1 fight at lightweight but didnt see a former world champ in rees was to big an ask??
this is a good shout plus rees has fought at light welter.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 12:18
by 15829
Probably the money made it a risk worth taking

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 15:16
by boxingfarmer30
cocobongo wrote:
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
fasteddie wrote: derry has a good boxing brain on him,he can fight this fight long if need be and keep crolla at the end of his jab,i believe derry can win this if he fights his fight, he fights crolla's fight and i think crolla wins,derry is a class boxer and come fight night win,lose or draw crolla will know he has been in a fight :box:
We where offered Crolla a yr or so ago and refused the bout, Derry never as he'd fight anyone anywhere but i had a say in who he fought and for me it was too much of an ask, other people involved also thought the same this fight is about one thing only.
Strange Crolla was thought of to big an ask over a year ago when he would of probably only had 1 fight at lightweight but didnt see a former world champ in rees was to big an ask??
Rees was in my opinion the weakest of the top four mitchell,murray and crolla.Also the money was good and gave derry a higher rating if he'd of won.

Re: Matthews v Crolla

Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 15:45
by fasteddie
boxingfarmer30 wrote:
cocobongo wrote:
boxingfarmer30 wrote: We where offered Crolla a yr or so ago and refused the bout, Derry never as he'd fight anyone anywhere but i had a say in who he fought and for me it was too much of an ask, other people involved also thought the same this fight is about one thing only.
Strange Crolla was thought of to big an ask over a year ago when he would of probably only had 1 fight at lightweight but didnt see a former world champ in rees was to big an ask??
Rees was in my opinion the weakest of the top four mitchell,murray and crolla.Also the money was good and gave derry a higher rating if he'd of won.
thats a fair point sean