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Bobby A. wrote:Norton and Futch made their peace; Ken has praised Futch highly and says he regrets their split.How do you think Norton would have done with Tyson, Ruddock and the older Foreman?

"Not Well"....."Against Prime Tyson" 8)

Prime Tyson would dust em,likely in the 2nd round after rockin em a few times in the 1st.

Ruddock and Norton would be a good fight. I think Norton would likely win by a 116-112 type decision.

"Old Foreman",as in,if its the Foreman from earlier in his comeback i think he could catch Norton early and tko em in 5. Foreman weighed in the 230's against Quawi. He was pretty quick at that weight.

"Older Foreman",as in,the 91-94 version would likely lose a fairly wide decision to a prime Norton. Norton would be too quick and too smart to fight em like Moorer did. I gotta point out that He would'nt beat up the 91 version of Foreman like Holyfield did though.

Going back to Prime Vitali vs a Prime Norton,i think Vitali has too much height and reach and Norton would'nt be able to amount enough offense without getting potshotted by those telephone pole like punches. They would find they're mark enough in each round to accumulate enough damage. Norton wasnt that hard to find,not a slickster,not very speedy,and generally liked to stay in the pocket and brawl and especially considering the physical leverage advantages Vitali would be able to utilize,it just doesnt look like a good outcome scenario for Ken Norton. I dont see him getting in and out at a constant pace for 12 rounds. Vitali would wear em down in every way possible. Too much size leverage,workrate,resiliance,and stamina,and just very underrated overall defense abilities as well. Being very physically strong and having great stamina and a great chin count as defense abilities imo.

The only guy with a great jab Vitali ever fought was a 37 year old Lewis, and his face got torn to pieces. A peak Norton's jab was one of the best in the business, but Norton could get in and out quickly with fast combinations. Vitali would be the one getting overwhelmed, as Norton wouldn't let him stay on the outside and just pot-shot. Remember an obese, 38 year old Sanders throwing 10 punches per round had enough to force Vitali to dig deep deep down and even in the post fight interview Klitschko can barely put words together he's so knackered (Vitali has good stamina for a big man but definitely not "great" stamina . . he can throw tons of punches vs walking punching bags Arreola and Johnson, but vs guys actually firing heavy leather back he got very tired by the middle rounds). A prime Norton would take him out of his comfort zone by his inside combinations, and then on the outside yes he'd be landing hard jabs to Vitali's chest and face.

AngryGoon38 wrote:[qNorton wasnt that hard to find,not a slickster,not very speedy,and generally liked to stay in the pocket and brawl and especially considering the physical leverage advantages Vitali would be able to utilize,it just doesnt look like a good outcome scenario for Ken Norton. I dont see him getting in and out at a constant pace for 12 rounds. Vitali would wear em down in every way possible. Too much size leverage,workrate,resiliance,and stamina,and just very underrated overall defense abilities as well. Being very physically strong and having great stamina and a great chin count as defense abilities imo.

Not hard to find? Holmes, Ali and Young, quicker and slicker than Vit, found him hard to find.

With all these attributes you claim Vitali has, how come he couldn't down, KO or stop a 40 year old, morbidly obese, severely injured Shannon Briggs who had a ripped in two bicep from round one and couldn't dodge a punch and didn't have a good chin in his physical prime 10 years and 70lbs earlier?

Why couldn't Vitali wear him down?

loaded_gloves wrote:

AngryGoon38 wrote:[qNorton wasnt that hard to find,not a slickster,not very speedy,and generally liked to stay in the pocket and brawl and especially considering the physical leverage advantages Vitali would be able to utilize,it just doesnt look like a good outcome scenario for Ken Norton. I dont see him getting in and out at a constant pace for 12 rounds. Vitali would wear em down in every way possible. Too much size leverage,workrate,resiliance,and stamina,and just very underrated overall defense abilities as well. Being very physically strong and having great stamina and a great chin count as defense abilities imo.

Not hard to find? Holmes, Ali and Young, quicker and slicker than Vit, found him hard to find.

With all these attributes you claim Vitali has, how come he couldn't down, KO or stop a 40 year old, morbidly obese, severely injured Shannon Briggs who had a ripped in two bicep from round one and couldn't dodge a punch and didn't have a good chin in his physical prime 10 years and 70lbs earlier?

Why couldn't Vitali wear him down?

My fave part is where he says Klitschko has too much stamina for Norton

Larry Holmes against norton in any number of fights it would always be very close.

Norton v Evander Holyfield is a great match but one i think a peak holyfield wins.

George Foreman (1990's, say 91 version). I think would be a competitive matchup with Norton being slapped around a little early but regaining his composure and giving the old man a hard night down the stretch and norton taking a decision.

Wlad & Vitali Klitschko are not in Nortons league. Norton beats both on points

mugabi wrote:Larry Holmes against norton in any number of fights it would always be very close.

Norton v Evander Holyfield is a great match but one i think a peak holyfield wins.

George Foreman (1990's, say 91 version). I think would be a competitive matchup with Norton being slapped around a little early but regaining his composure and giving the old man a hard night down the stretch and norton taking a decision.

Wlad & Vitali Klitschko are not in Nortons league. Norton beats both on points

Baer? Walcott? Johansson?

Wow... so we can add Dereck Chisora to a 40 year old immobile moribly obese one armed Shannon Briggs on the list of people Vitali could not grind down and stop. Yet this guys gonna grind down Kenny Norton? Kenny Norton who could go 15 rds and fornicating HIT and break your jaw in two pieces?

LOL!