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Re: Why reward chisora or haye?
Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 18:25
by kamicazze
looking at the way Haye was carrying himself he looked more like the Gung Ho cruiseweight version who took risks. He has that fire in him again. either that or he is a good actor but if we get THAT haye back then i will want to watch
Re: Why reward chisora or haye?
Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 18:33
by stujones
kamicazze wrote:looking at the way Haye was carrying himself he looked more like the Gung Ho cruiseweight version who took risks. He has that fire in him again. either that or he is a good actor but if we get THAT haye back then i will want to watch
Did he never say he was going to splatter Harrison, Valuev and Klitchsko. He always has said he is going to "bring it too them" and go for it..... his heavyweight career has flattered to deceive.
I do think Chisora is perfect for him style wise.... small, come forward, no punch. Haye has more snap and speed in his punches that the version of Vitali who fought Chisora.... I cannot see Chisora being able to slip them. I think Haye and I think Haye early.
But Haye will lose convincingly to either Klitchsko.
Re: Why reward chisora or haye?
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 04:58
by bugs
stujones wrote:But Haye will lose convincingly to either Klitchsko.
He lost to Wlad, but neither Wlad nor Haye were very convincing. Wlad put on as much of a stinker as he did.
Re: Chisora stopped at airport by german police
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 05:15
by gobbles
josh fg wrote:gobbles wrote:josh fg wrote:
According to the news they're also questioning Chisora on the threat to shoot Haye. I doubt ether fighter will press charges vs the other as they both seemed to some extent culpable.
Haye will probably arrange an appointment to meet with the police. While this happens it still keeps the potential fight in the press and will sell more tickets.
May fight filling Wembley Arena with the winner fighting Vitali subject to them both staying out of jail
Fight won't happen. Chisora will get a year ban minimum
You think, I don't think it'd be fair to give him any more than a fine. Hide did worse at ringside at the Harrison fight and wasn't banned.
Hide got attacked by Harrison's security staff, only thing he did was push back at some woman who pushed him off a chair.
Besides which, Chisora has a growing list of things, all of which would come with a ban, considering he got 4 months previous for biting:
Conviction for assaulting a woman (never dealt with by Board)
slapping Vitali
Spitting at Wladimir
Brawl with Haye
Threatening to shoot Haye
The guy is totally out of control. What's more this all happened when he was representing Board and Great Britain in a foreign country.
Plus the German Federation has requested the Board give Chisora a life ban.
If he's lucky, he gets 12 months.
Frank Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 07:09
by TJ77
That'll be Francis then
Ammunition for abolitionists?
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 07:13
by nobby_nobbins
I think the idea that boxers brawling at press conferences gives ammunition to those who seek to ban boxing is plain ridiculous. People who hate boxing refuse to distinguish boxing matches from street fights anyway, so the idea of banning a fighter for fighting is just comical to them.
Re: allegedly Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 07:33
by GlobalBox
He might change his mind if Vitali retires, this shoulder injury is now being likened to the rotator cuff injury he got against Byrd, that will take ages to heal if its true and
he may well call it a day, although it did not seem to be hanging like Byrd so perhaps its nothing like that and it may just be talk to try and ward off any negative reports on his performance.
The two boys are really going to regret there row if this is the case as the vacant title fight would have quite possibly been Haye and Chisora but both are looking at lengthy bans and the WBC won't have Chisora anywhere near there title for a good while and probably the same with Haye.
Re: allegedly Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 07:39
by Syntax Error
TJ77 wrote:That'll be Francis then
If F rank Warren means that, then I'm Sugar Ray Leonard!!! :P
I bet he'd be the first guy willing to promote such a fight, especially if it was for a world title belt, although neither deserves a shot just shot, as Chisora is 0-3 in his last 3 & Im not sure if David's toe is fully healed yet (

), although that might not matter, as Haye has gone all ' Lord Lucan' and disappeared anyway.

Re: Ammunition for abolitionists?
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 07:46
by leforge
nobby_nobbins wrote:I think the idea that boxers brawling at press conferences gives ammunition to those who seek to ban boxing is plain ridiculous. People who hate boxing refuse to distinguish boxing matches from street fights anyway, so the idea of banning a fighter for fighting is just comical to them.
Chisora been advert for banning boxing all weekend, slapping, spitting , brawling then threatning to shoot someone. He been very stupid everyone will forget he performed better than most expected.
Re: allegedly Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 07:56
by whiskey
The high horse is buckling from everyone climbing aboard it.
Don't panic though folks, I'll get a license and promote it myself if nobody wants to !
Re: allegedly Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 08:33
by doctorboxing
Syntax Error wrote:Chisora is 0-3 in his last 3
He has lost 3 out of his last 4. He won one after the Fury fight.
Re: allegedly Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 08:38
by Syntax Error
doctorboxing wrote:Syntax Error wrote:Chisora is 0-3 in his last 3
He has lost 3 out of his last 4. He won one after the Fury fight.
Good point.
I stand corrected.

Re: allegedly Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 08:46
by markfightoptions
To be fair i did say to myself halfway through that fight that i bet vitali has just injured himself, the robots jab just stopped altogether, would be a pity to see it end his career.
Re: allegedly Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 09:15
by stujones
GLOBALBOX wrote:He might change his mind if Vitali retires, this shoulder injury is now being likened to the rotator cuff injury he got against Byrd, that will take ages to heal if its true and
he may well call it a day, although it did not seem to be hanging like Byrd so perhaps its nothing like that and it may just be talk to try and ward off any negative reports on his performance.
The two boys are really going to regret there row if this is the case as the vacant title fight would have quite possibly been Haye and Chisora but both are looking at lengthy bans and the WBC won't have Chisora anywhere near there title for a good while and probably the same with Haye.
Klitchsko is out for 7 months....... that explains ALOT about why he was content to fight on the back foot and only throw arm punches..... it put the fight and performance into a whole new perspective.
Klitshcko clearly beat Chisora with one hand. Helenius might not be no where near as good, but at least he had two working arms.
Re: Ammunition for abolitionists?
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 09:20
by sweetscience
is anyone trying to ban boxing ?
Haye's route back to the UK....
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 10:14
by MacTavish
How will he do it?

Re: Haye's route back to the UK....
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 10:20
by smoggy7188
He flew in at 7 yesterday morning. If he hadnt had done that then in Bunceys special suitcase for his sacred cravats would have been the perfect place to hide.
Re: Haye's route back to the UK....
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 10:24
by ShadrachSimmo
I'd imagine Interpol are on his ass after his violent frenzied tripod attack. To the gallows wi him.
The huge opportunity missed by David Haye
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 12:17
by davie
What a real shame the last couple years have been
Haye had a real opportunity a couple years ago.
the Klitchkos were widely considered to be boring, they were said to be killing heavywieght boxing with their domination of the division and the manner of that domination, the way they hand picked opponents, the way they negotiated their deals and set up for fights, the conservative style of fighting, particularly from wladimir
Haye was seen and a charismatic character that could add a bit of excitement to the division. People liked his fighting style when he was a cruiser wieght and the guy had a bit of the arrogance anda liking for the showbusiness side of things that we all like to see in a top fighter
Now after stumbling from one embarrasment to another, the prematch boasts and harrasment of both brothers (the beheading t-shirt), the post match excuses (toe-gate), the performance in the fight itself and now getting enbroiled in this carry on in someone elses post match press conference. For all derek has acted like a thug before, during and after his big shot, david has eclipsed even his stupidity, he shouldn't have been there and from the various replays i've seen of the brawl, david starts it, david twice uses a weapon, david brawls with chisora and his trainer, then he dissapears into the night to evade capture
now, with the throughly unproffesional chisora and even tyson fury (although he isn't guilty of behaving nearly as badly as the first 2, he's just a bit of a nugget), boxing fans, in britain particularly, have realised, that given the choice between the supposedly dull, boring, yet thoroughly proffesional kings of the heavywieght division and the "excitment" provided by britains heavywieght leading thugs, in recent times we'd rather give overdue credit to the ukrainians who have deservedly ruled the sport for almost a decade.
lets hope david price can deliver on his early promise as he appears to be the only top brittish heavywieght with an ounce of professionalism and dignity....
Re: The huge opportunity missed by David Haye
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 12:25
by Khaosai-Galaxy
davie wrote:What a real shame the last couple years have been
Haye had a real opportunity a couple years ago.
the Klitchkos were widely considered to be boring, they were said to be killing heavywieght boxing with their domination of the division and the manner of that domination, the way they hand picked opponents, the way they negotiated their deals and set up for fights, the conservative style of fighting, particularly from wladimir
Haye was seen and a charismatic character that could add a bit of excitement to the division. People liked his fighting style when he was a cruiser wieght and the guy had a bit of the arrogance anda liking for the showbusiness side of things that we all like to see in a top fighter
Now after stumbling from one embarrasment to another, the prematch boasts and harrasment of both brothers (the beheading t-shirt), the post match excuses (toe-gate), the performance in the fight itself and now getting enbroiled in this carry on in someone elses post match press conference. For all derek has acted like a thug before, during and after his big shot, david has eclipsed even his stupidity, he shouldn't have been there and from the various replays i've seen of the brawl, david starts it, david twice uses a weapon, david brawls with chisora and his trainer, then he dissapears into the night to evade capture
now, with the throughly unproffesional chisora and even tyson fury (although he isn't guilty of behaving nearly as badly as the first 2, he's just a bit of a nugget), boxing fans, in britain particularly, have realised, that given the choice between the supposedly dull, boring, yet thoroughly proffesional kings of the heavywieght division and the "excitment" provided by britains heavywieght leading thugs, in recent times we'd rather give overdue credit to the ukrainians who have deservedly ruled the sport for almost a decade.
lets hope david price can deliver on his early promise as he appears to be the only top brittish heavywieght with an ounce of professionalism and dignity....
*yawn*
Re: Haye's route back to the UK....
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 12:31
by Khaosai-Galaxy
He's in Norwich, housesitting for Herbie Hide.
Re: Haye's route back to the UK....
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 12:40
by J
cant be ; herbie is dereks anger management counsellor

Re: Haye's route back to the UK....
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 12:46
by Adamj1987
he went backpacking through holland then caught a ferry to ireland
Re: allegedly Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 13:18
by Adamj1987
haye wouldnt let him sole promote
Re: allegedly Says he will not promote a haye chisora fight
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 13:23
by desperados
Syntax Error wrote:doctorboxing wrote:Syntax Error wrote:Chisora is 0-3 in his last 3
He has lost 3 out of his last 4. He won one after the Fury fight.
Good point.
I stand corrected.

nah you were right chisora is 0-3.
Helenius L
Vitali Klitchko L
Haye L
i hope he gets a rematch with Haye though, he's due a few more hayemakers.