David Haye Statement

[Final round]

http://youtu.be/vOQHDD83aKY German footage of the fight I'd not seen this view yet.

Chisora and his two 'Henchmen' menacingly approach Haye where Chisora gets a fist up to Haye's face and offers him out 'Do you want to fight me!'

[Finn]

Check out this image:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/arch ... 56042a.jpg

Think it's quite clear who threw the first punch and how the glass bottle got involved. Chisora likes to hype up and build tension, but I don't think he'd ever go as far as actually bottling a fellow boxer. No amount of words or provoking by Chisora justified Haye swinging with a bottle, if at all!

This is the highest level of the biggest division of the worlds most prestigious fighting sports... Things like this will happen from time to time when adrenaline, personalities, testosterone and frustrations bubble over.

Hope they address it but don't blow it out of proportion. I hope Haye apologises for throwing the first bottle punch as that was what took it too far!

how is that quite clear who threw the first punch ???????????????????

its a still photo, chisora looked like he put his head in hayes face first but a still photo of haye hitting him doesnt show that.

imo its all down to chasora thinking hes crazy. am glad haye done what he did. chisora is renowned for acting like a prat, look what hes already done in the past, he has kissed people at weigh ins, he has bit some ones ear he slapped Klitchsko, and spat at his brother, like i said he thinks hes crazy. haye on the other hand has never to my knowledge started any trouble outside the ring.

Having that bottle in his hand could have been a whole different story... It's potentially fatal or could cause some career damaging injuries to both of them. If you look thru some images just before they clashed, the bottle is actually in Haye other hand seconds before. So did he change hands with the intention of using the bottle?

http://www.todayheads.com/wp-content/up ... ry-top.jpg

You are foolish if you support Haye assaulting Chisora, throwing punches with 500 cameras watching and out of the ring is no excuse, even if they are boxers!

No mate he was drinking out of the right hand when chisora left the his area if you watch the video haye actual put his hands down by his sides he didnt get the bottle ready to do damage with it. And booth actually passed his own bottle to someone else i pressume because he thought he was going to have to get in the way.

[Finn]

http://youtu.be/vOQHDD83aKY German footage of the fight I'd not seen this view yet.

that footage clearly shows how menacing chisora and his mates were, and also show how haye kept trying to back off and not fight with chisora and his people continuing to go after him and forcing him to defend himself a couple of times.

[mrbassie]

But the facts remain that Haye threw the first punches which started the fracas off.

Chisora is a loon for sure .. but he walked up to Haye, to no doubt, insult and wind Haye up. Hence why he took the microphone with him.

Haye then fired off a couple punches ... Haye is 100% guilty.
If Chisora had slapped Haye or spat water onto him ... some of the blame could have been shared.

No. Haye is the guilty party here.
As for threats to shoot or burn him. Come on ..

Haye was being his usual parasite self. Trying to get himself a big pay day on the back of Chisoras gallant showing.

Agree 100%
It amazes me that after this joke making a prick of himself in the build up to and indeed during the Wlad fight that people still stick up for him.

[Finn]

But the facts remain that Haye threw the first punches which started the fracas off.

Chisora is a loon for sure .. but he walked up to Haye, to no doubt, insult and wind Haye up. Hence why he took the microphone with him.

Haye then fired off a couple punches ... Haye is 100% guilty.
If Chisora had slapped Haye or spat water onto him ... some of the blame could have been shared.

No. Haye is the guilty party here.
As for threats to shoot or burn him. Come on ..

Haye was being his usual parasite self. Trying to get himself a big pay day on the back of Chisoras gallant showing.

Agree 100%
It amazes me that after this joke making a prick of himself in the build up to and indeed during the Wlad fight that people still stick up for him.

it amazes me how many people would clearly just stand there and let some thug bully them, and then expect other people to be of the same mind set.

[mrbassie]

But the facts remain that Haye threw the first punches which started the fracas off.

Chisora is a loon for sure .. but he walked up to Haye, to no doubt, insult and wind Haye up. Hence why he took the microphone with him.

Haye then fired off a couple punches ... Haye is 100% guilty.
If Chisora had slapped Haye or spat water onto him ... some of the blame could have been shared.

No. Haye is the guilty party here.
As for threats to shoot or burn him. Come on ..

Haye was being his usual parasite self. Trying to get himself a big pay day on the back of Chisoras gallant showing.

Agree 100%
It amazes me that after this joke making a prick of himself in the build up to and indeed during the Wlad fight that people still stick up for him.

it amazes me how many people would clearly just stand there and let some thug bully them, and then expect other people to be of the same mind set.

It amazed me that haye didn't do a marathon and pretend to fall on the floor every five seconds.
Who hit whom in the face with a bottle, the thug or the pretty boy who shit his pants when Wlad wanted to squeeze his hand, to the extent of refusing to be interviewd in the same room?

[mrbassie]

The front page of the sports section of the Guardian has a big picture and I'm not sure he bottled him any more. Haye is holding the head of the bottle as if he were drinking it and it's the liquid that sprays everywhere. It looks from this picture that Haye hit him whilst holding it rather than actually bottling him.

Notice that it's not Hayes fist making contact with Chisora's face but the glass thing in his hand?

[Bard of Boxrec]

To anyone who says none of this was Haye's fault, Haye definitely had the opportunity to avoid Chisora confronting him like that.

Haye: (standing up at the back, gesturing, confrontational) You're a loser.
Chisora: Want to tell that my face.
Haye: (still gesturing, still stood up, still confrontational) You're a loser.

What did Haye expect would happen? Chisora is a crazy man. Haye is at least relatively intelligent. If he didn't want trouble, it was pretty obvious where he should have just walked away.

[Finn]

To anyone who says none of this was Haye's fault, Haye definitely had the opportunity to avoid Chisora confronting him like that.

Haye: (standing up at the back, gesturing, confrontational) You're a loser.
Chisora: Want to tell that my face.
Haye: (still gesturing, still stood up, still confrontational) You're a loser.

What did Haye expect would happen? Chisora is a crazy man. Haye is at least relatively intelligent. If he didn't want trouble, it was pretty obvious where he should have just walked away.

as ive stated before if other people want to cowar and leave the room every time a thug acts threatening thats up to them, but they should not expect everyone else to do the same.

Why should haye have backed down he didnt go looking for trouble he just stood his ground, and got the better of chisora and his mates.

God im glad some of you people werent incharge when the faulklands were invaded. "We do have the power and means to destroy the argies and defend our land, but lets run away to avoid a fight" would be your lots statment to the country.

I could imagine Winstons Churchills speach now in WWII ""We shall run away on the beaches, we will cowar on the landing grounds, we shall hide in the fields and in the streets, we shall cry and run in the hills; we shall always surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would run away too, until, in Gods good time, the New World, with all its power and might, wont bother helping because they dont want any trouble even though they could ruin dereck chisora and his crew of fannies. "

Let me ask you this do you guys leave the pub and go home every time a mean man eyeballs you across the bar or barges into you, or worst comes over and stucks his first in your face?

[Glyn Leach]

The front page of the sports section of the Guardian has a big picture and I'm not sure he bottled him any more. Haye is holding the head of the bottle as if he were drinking it and it's the liquid that sprays everywhere. It looks from this picture that Haye hit him whilst holding it rather than actually bottling him.

Notice that it's not Hayes fist making contact with Chisora's face but the glass thing in his hand?

Bollocks. Who has ever glassed anyone holding the bottle sideways?

Certainly a muggy way to bottle someone, the neck is more likely to shatter in your hand and cause you more damage than them. The fact that Haye swapped hands with the bottle and didn't drop it before he punched bothers me. Why did he swap it to his right hand, the one he threw with real purpose? It's pretty plain he knew he was going to punch as Chisora approached him, he either wanted to sucker punch him or get in first, either way he was ready to punch, so why didn't he lose
the bottle first? That and the tripod business don't reflect well on Haye IMO. He's a former world champion, does he really need those things to defend himself? He wasn't alone, he had Booth and another fella with him. Just looks bad - also didn't look great that he landed clean shots, no gloves, on Chisora and a 50plus trainer and didn't even wobble them! Bad night for Dave all round I'm afraid, rep devalued on many levels

[Finn]

Notice that it's not Hayes fist making contact with Chisora's face but the glass thing in his hand?

Bollocks. Who has ever glassed anyone holding the bottle sideways?

Certainly a muggy way to bottle someone, the neck is more likely to shatter in your hand and cause you more damage than them. The fact that Haye swapped hands with the bottle and didn't drop it before he punched bothers me. Why did he swap it to his right hand, the one he threw with real purpose? It's pretty plain he knew he was going to punch as Chisora approached him, he either wanted to sucker punch him or get in first, either way he was ready to punch, so why didn't he lose
the bottle first? That and the tripod business don't reflect well on Haye IMO. He's a former world champion, does he really need those things to defend himself? He wasn't alone, he had Booth and another fella with him. Just looks bad - also didn't look great that he landed clean shots, no gloves, on Chisora and a 50plus trainer and didn't even wobble them! Bad night for Dave all round I'm afraid, rep devalued on many levels

he didnt change hands, someone has posted the footage from someone following behind chisora as he went over and haye was clearly holding the bottle in his right hand all the way through. Alot of stills are the wrong way round (right is left). That footage also shows haye kept trying to back away but they kept coming for him so he threw the tripod at them.

[Glyn Leach]

No kingfinn, film clearly shows bottle in left hand as Chisora approaches, no question and nothing to do with camera angles mate. I don't know at what stage precisely he did it, but he definitely switched hands with it as Chisora was getting close.

[Bard of Boxrec]

To anyone who says none of this was Haye's fault, Haye definitely had the opportunity to avoid Chisora confronting him like that.

Haye: (standing up at the back, gesturing, confrontational) You're a loser.
Chisora: Want to tell that my face.
Haye: (still gesturing, still stood up, still confrontational) You're a loser.

What did Haye expect would happen? Chisora is a crazy man. Haye is at least relatively intelligent. If he didn't want trouble, it was pretty obvious where he should have just walked away.

as ive stated before if other people want to cowar and leave the room every time a thug acts threatening thats up to them, but they should not expect everyone else to do the same.

Why should haye have backed down he didnt go looking for trouble he just stood his ground, and got the better of chisora and his mates.

God im glad some of you people werent incharge when the faulklands were invaded. "We do have the power and means to destroy the argies and defend our land, but lets run away to avoid a fight" would be your lots statment to the country.

I could imagine Winstons Churchills speach now in WWII ""We shall run away on the beaches, we will cowar on the landing grounds, we shall hide in the fields and in the streets, we shall cry and run in the hills; we shall always surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would run away too, until, in Gods good time, the New World, with all its power and might, wont bother helping because they dont want any trouble even though they could ruin dereck chisora and his crew of fannies. "

Let me ask you this do you guys leave the pub and go home every time a mean man eyeballs you across the bar or barges into you, or worst comes over and stucks his first in your face?

I'm not talking about going to war, haye didn't need to go to war. He had no people with him and chisora had an army, have you never played Risk? Haye knew they would all just march over, he shouldn't have said anything in the first place. Also he didn't stand his ground, he marched in and threw the first punch

Whatever, I don't even know why I'm talking about this any more, I don't even care about the subject!

[jimcook]

at the end of the day....chisora proved he can dish it out but cant take it.

[NazNaci1]

Quite simple, imo. Chisora approached Haye, stuck his head into Haye's then rested his fist on Haye's jaw, he did not punch him, however. Now, to a fighter this is a pretty big deal. A fellow fighter putting his head in, placing his fist on the other guys jaw and then saying, 'You want to fight me, you want to fight me?'

Cue right hand to the jaw.....Reasonable response to an avoidable action. Warren and Chsiora's trainer should have dealt with this and not allowed Chisora to get up and approach Haye, who had made no moves of aggression. He was merely there to goad and highlight that they had agreed a deal, only for Wlad's management to now deny it.

Warren sitting there smirking, making his 'proposal' and obviously enjoying the fact he felt in control and had the upper hand is another reason why I intensely dislike this guy. Bitter, bitter man.

[Final round]

Notice that it's not Hayes fist making contact with Chisora's face but the glass thing in his hand?

Bollocks. Who has ever glassed anyone holding the bottle sideways?

Certainly a muggy way to bottle someone, the neck is more likely to shatter in your hand and cause you more damage than them. The fact that Haye swapped hands with the bottle and didn't drop it before he punched bothers me. Why did he swap it to his right hand, the one he threw with real purpose? It's pretty plain he knew he was going to punch as Chisora approached him, he either wanted to sucker punch him or get in first, either way he was ready to punch, so why didn't he lose
the bottle first? That and the tripod business don't reflect well on Haye IMO. He's a former world champion, does he really need those things to defend himself? He wasn't alone, he had Booth and another fella with him. Just looks bad - also didn't look great that he landed clean shots, no gloves, on Chisora and a 50plus trainer and didn't even wobble them! Bad night for Dave all round I'm afraid, rep devalued on many levels

50 plus what's that got to do with it does your punch resistance go at 50 Glyn? Charles started punching first and Haye clearly hammered him for it Chisora got beat at his own game, Street fights generally don't stick to queensbury rules so I'd say Hayes don't f u ck with me rep is running high.

[leforge]

Quite simple, imo. Chisora approached Haye, stuck his head into Haye's then rested his fist on Haye's jaw, he did not punch him, however. Now, to a fighter this is a pretty big deal. A fellow fighter putting his head in, placing his fist on the other guys jaw and then saying, 'You want to fight me, you want to fight me?'

Cue right hand to the jaw.....Reasonable response to an avoidable action. Warren and Chsiora's trainer should have dealt with this and not allowed Chisora to get up and approach Haye, who had made no moves of aggression. He was merely there to goad and highlight that they had agreed a deal, only for Wlad's management to now deny it.

Warren sitting there smirking, making his 'proposal' and obviously enjoying the fact he felt in control and had the upper hand is another reason why I intensely dislike this guy. Bitter, bitter man.

Plus he now says its down to Haye, he should and could have controlled his fighter. i heard Maloney on the radio earlier say this as well.

[Finn]

No kingfinn, film clearly shows bottle in left hand as Chisora approaches, no question and nothing to do with camera angles mate. I don't know at what stage precisely he did it, but he definitely switched hands with it as Chisora was getting close.

shall we put pride on the line here ?

Go to 2 minute 50 seconds, thats about 20 seconds before chisora gets out of his seat.

This is a good bit of footage from multi angles it also shows why haye threw the tripod because every time he backed off they kept coming.

http://youtu.be/lWrNGUeW2i8

[Glyn Leach]

No kingfinn, film clearly shows bottle in left hand as Chisora approaches, no question and nothing to do with camera angles mate. I don't know at what stage precisely he did it, but he definitely switched hands with it as Chisora was getting close.

shall we put pride on the line here ?

Go to 2 minute 50 seconds, thats about 20 seconds before chisora gets out of his seat.

This is a good bit of footage from multi angles it also shows why haye threw the tripod because every time he backed off they kept coming.

http://youtu.be/lWrNGUeW2i8

I will return

He's gesticulating with an empty right hand, waving it about clear as daylight, it disappears from vire and cones back with the bottle in it.

That's the point it changes hands! His right is empty before that. Look at Haye's right just before it disappears from view and the pops up holding the bottle. It's been switched from left to right, clearer in other films.

[smoggy7188]

Looking at twitter alot of boxers and people in boxing believe it was a terrible event however they lay the blame at Chisora.

[Finn]

No kingfinn, film clearly shows bottle in left hand as Chisora approaches, no question and nothing to do with camera angles mate. I don't know at what stage precisely he did it, but he definitely switched hands with it as Chisora was getting close.

shall we put pride on the line here ?

Go to 2 minute 50 seconds, thats about 20 seconds before chisora gets out of his seat.

This is a good bit of footage from multi angles it also shows why haye threw the tripod because every time he backed off they kept coming.

http://youtu.be/lWrNGUeW2i8

I will return

[Final round]

Warren sitting there smirking, making his 'proposal' and obviously enjoying the fact he felt in control and had the upper hand is another reason why I intensely dislike this guy. Bitter, bitter man.

Yep Warren was smugly smirking rubbing his hands together at a potential match up brewing with Bernie and the Big K boys thinking Haye was going to get roughed up and made a mug 'Run David Run' shouted the robot, their security let Mad Dog Chisora and the boys through and Haye f ucking blows up in their face!

[Finn]

Warren sitting there smirking, making his 'proposal' and obviously enjoying the fact he felt in control and had the upper hand is another reason why I intensely dislike this guy. Bitter, bitter man.

Yep Warren was smugly smirking rubbing his hands together at a potential match up brewing with Bernie and the Big K boys thinking Haye was going to get roughed up and made a mug 'Run David Run' shouted the robot, their security let Mad Dog Chisora and the boys through and Haye f ucking blows up in their face!

i love that "run david run" cry from boente just before haye gives chisora and his boys one way tickets to painsville.

[Final round]

Warren sitting there smirking, making his 'proposal' and obviously enjoying the fact he felt in control and had the upper hand is another reason why I intensely dislike this guy. Bitter, bitter man.

Yep Warren was smugly smirking rubbing his hands together at a potential match up brewing with Bernie and the Big K boys thinking Haye was going to get roughed up and made a mug 'Run David Run' shouted the robot, their security let Mad Dog Chisora and the boys through and Haye f ucking blows up in their face!

i love that "run david run" cry from boente just before haye gives chisora and his boys one way tickets to painsville.

I know they soon stfu I thought it was Vitali though.

[Wrists]

Neither are blameless clearly.

However what do you expect Haye to do when Chisora gets right in his face (with 3 or 4 backing him up)??

As for the tripod thing well Haye was silly, stupid call it what you want but again its a reaction to Chisora's lot continuing to come after him.

In a court of law Haye would argue self defence and win.