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Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 12:54
by kevo
Crease, it's up to the other managers whether or not The Rock gets into the Hof. It's not your place to persuade them one way or the other.
In the interests of fairness this thread (and the title of the thread) should be edited to contain just the the bare facts of Marciano's record.
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 13:04
by JDC
In fairness, I believe at least one of my fighters ''ducked'' Marciano during this period to choose other title fights. The timing was wrong, but as I remember #1 commish said Marciano could take these low quality match-ups if nobody called him out. Marciano didn't have much choice, even though I believe he COULD have got a decent match-up if he tried hard enough. The earnest was on us to make a fight with him and everyone was busy in TMDT, with other titles, or being fags.
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 13:05
by Crease
kevo wrote:Crease, it's up to the other managers whether or not The Rock gets into the Hof. It's not your place to persuade them one way or the other.
In the interests of fairness this thread (and the title of the thread) should be edited to contain just the the bare facts of Marciano's record.
Agreed. There has to be a degree of impartiality for any acting Commish - but by the same train of thought BoxBuzz should not be trying to encourage others to vote Rocky...
Consistency is key as always.
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 13:14
by BoxBuzz
Crease wrote:BoxBuzz wrote:It wasn't THE ROCK doing any ducking.....everyone was running away.
If The Rock doesn't duck at all - why didn't you face Joe Louis in a WBC Title Eliminator in Week 6.
And why did you drop your IBF Title rather than face Joe Louis as the mandatory challenger?
That was posturing......remember we were happy to DROP a title and face Louis...that was the "nothing but a beating" mentality THE ROCK had regarding Louis at that time....... just being disagreeable.
Which is exactly what Louis got....NOTHING BUT A BEATING.....but Lonsdale pride would have been inherited had Joe won.
The other Lewis got near the same treatment as I recall
But it was not to be.....Neither LOUIS nor LEWIS attained "LONSDALE PRIDE".
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 13:21
by BoxBuzz
JDC wrote: The earnest was on us to make a fight with him and everyone was busy in TMDT, with other titles, or being fags.
Indeed....THE ROCK was told that many were "Busy". And of course some fighters just wanted some shiney belts....but few wanted a true fight.
I do beleive Louis and Jackson dropped titles to come get there beatings.....or was it just Jackson? Yeah probably just Jackson.
Now Jackson...there was a great fighter.....
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 13:28
by BoxBuzz
Crease wrote:Another noteworthy statistic is that Rocky and Muhammad's records are mathematically identical:
Rocky Marciano - 33 wins, 7 losses, 1 draw - (9 CPU opponents)
Compared to:
Muhammad Ali - 33 wins, 7 losses , 1 draw - (2 CPU opponents I think)

You seem to left have KO's out. I wonder if there is a difference between their KO records?.....he KO'd the "UNKO'ABLE as part of his routine
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 13:44
by Crease
BoxBuzz wrote:I do beleive Louis and Jackson dropped titles to come get there beatings.....or was it just Jackson? Yeah probably just Jackson.
Louis did indeed sacrifice his title to fight Marciano... Joead to jump through hoop-after-hoop to get that fight against The Rock.
BoxBuzz wrote:Now Jackson...there was a great fighter.....
A great fighter who Joe Louis beat in The Super Six - so where would you say that leaves Joe?
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 13:51
by BoxBuzz
Hold it right there buddy, .....you say you dropped a title? To face THE ROCK? You ducked one of the top ten challengers to take an easy fight?
Holy Crap.......I can't believe a manager would operate that way.
We need to have Joe's entire portfolio of information stricken from this season's record.
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 14:10
by JDC
Who'd have thought the Marciano thread would be the size of the others combined

Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 14:15
by Crease
BoxBuzz wrote:Hold it right there buddy, .....you say you dropped a title? To face THE ROCK? You ducked one of the top ten challengers to take an easy fight?
Well someone has to make conessions for the big fights to happen... And it's never you.
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 14:17
by Crease
JDC wrote:Who'd have thought the Marciano thread would be the size of the others combined

I did.
I knew that Buzz would give Rocky his total support and he would apportion blame to everyone else regarding Rocky's shortcomings...
And we haven't even started talking about Rocky's Super Six campaign (where Joe Louis finished ahead of him)
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 15:56
by BoxBuzz
Crease wrote:
And we haven't even started talking about Rocky's Super Six campaign (where Joe Louis finished ahead of him)
Yep, Louis finished up just ahead of THE ROCK AND flat out on the canvas (for the second time this season) for all to see.
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 16:12
by JDC
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano please review sans prejudice
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 00:21
by Fist of Legend
I said yes to Frazier so it has to be a yes for Marciano
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano
Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 10:35
by Crease
Things are neck-and-neck for The Rock in the poll and the comments tally. This will be decided within the next few days by the Sim public.
Re: HOF Nomination: Rocky Marciano
Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 07:27
by Crease
This has been a very close one... But Rocky did not receive enough votes for entry in to the Hall.
Sorry Buzz (I know that you won't like this) for VOTING CLOSES... And Rocky doesn't have enough votes.
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