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Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 06:47
by forcefraser
Riddick Blowe wrote:slapbangwhallop wrote:this fight doesnt seem to have captured much attention in the UK and indeed no broadcaster has even picked it up which is from a personal perspective a little disappointing to be honest.
Andy Lee's Irish though?
I thought he was born in the UK?
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 06:52
by jessi
Gazmac81 wrote:Box-Nation have picked this up now
i just got e-mail confiming it
Good news

Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 10:26
by chiggsy
Good stuff i reckon lees got a decent chance here,not been overly impressed with chavez jnr.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 13:16
by Final round
Casio wrote:leforge wrote:chiggsy wrote:Says live world title boxing from 2 am sunday morning on Allegedly channel but doesn't say whos fighting.
Last minute picked up for cheap as usual.Surely they should start buying them in advance.
You will literally moan about anything wont you?
![[icon_witsend.gif] :witzend:](./images/smilies/icon_witsend.gif)

Leforge why do care when they got it or for how much they got it?
That they have it at all is the good thing, isn't it?
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 10:49
by slapbangwhallop
Fight Feature: A Documentary on Chavez-Lee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UawN-7hxKcc
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 11:40
by jimcook
would be good if lee could win this fight. is it another 5am fight?
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 15:27
by slapbangwhallop
Weights - Chavez Jr 159 lbs vs Andy Lee 159.25 lbs
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 17:43
by slapbangwhallop
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 17:52
by slapbangwhallop
The Dark Destroyer wrote:Know anything about this glove issue, Slap?
yeah. Team Lee had a worry that Chavez's gloves might have been light.
The asked the commission to weigh the gloves. Team Chavez refused and left the arena.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 17:59
by ShadrachSimmo
By all accounts JCC Jr had a hard time against Zbik. Why is Chavez allowed to put on so much weight before fight night. Didn't Salido lose his title because he put on so much weight before fighting Gamboa?
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 18:09
by slapbangwhallop
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 18:12
by slapbangwhallop
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 18:25
by Deserter
Hope Lee nails him... go on son!
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 19:13
by states
Deserter wrote:Hope Lee nails him... go on son!
He's going to have to nail him though, you'd think. I don't fancy his chances of winning on points.
Having not been a fan of JCC jr in his early days, he has come on though. I think he might have a bit too much for Lee here.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 02:30
by Deserter
states wrote:Deserter wrote:Hope Lee nails him... go on son!
He's going to have to nail him though, you'd think. I don't fancy his chances of winning on points.
Having not been a fan of JCC jr in his early days, he has come on though. I think he might have a bit too much for Lee here.
Unfortunately I think you're right on all counts.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 06:41
by leprechaun
Ya all the very best to Andy Lee.
Go on Andy and make history and bring the title home to your family and delight all your fans
and the travelling people by being the first traveller to fight for a world title.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 07:16
by Deserter
leprechaun wrote:the first traveller to fight for a world title.
Does Henry Wharton not count?
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 07:35
by whiskey
Lee will get shafted.
Laurence Cole, the ref, also owns a boxing-insurance company, whose main customer is the WBC.
Cole's dad, Dickie ran the Texas commission to his own means. And the pair have been linked to numerous fixing rumours.
Sulaiman is alleged to be godfather to Chavez snr's kids, and the pair have had a close friendship for years. Hence Chavez getting a shot at Kostya Tszyu despite being ranked 33rd in the months before suddenly being slotted in at 2nd. This was despite him being at 147 for the previous two years and losing most of the contests at that weight to journeyman.
Chavez jr was banned for using a masking agent/ diuretic about 3 years ago. Yet his last fight in Texas was controversial because NO drug testing was carried out. Afterwards Rubio stated that Chavez was the 'biggest, strongest middleweight he ever faced' and he's fought Pavlik, Lemieux and everyone.
It's just too fishy that the WBC stripped dominant Martinez - and this guy, a laughing stock a few years ago is now knocking over people left right and centre.
They happily shafted Pacman, one of the biggest names in the sport last week... They'd not think twice about shafting Lee no matter how big he wins.
He needs a KO.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 13:23
by BigEars
ShadrachSimmo wrote:By all accounts JCC Jr had a hard time against Zbik. Why is Chavez allowed to put on so much weight before fight night. Didn't Salido lose his title because he put on so much weight before fighting Gamboa?
Yes but that is due to the IBF having rules on how much weight you can put on between the weigh in and the morning of the day of the fight. The other orgs (including the WBC) don't have the same rule.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 13:46
by leprechaun
Deserter wrote:leprechaun wrote:the first traveller to fight for a world title.
Does Henry Wharton not count?
My apologies to Henry Wharton, a great fighter he was.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 15:54
by jimcook
anyone know what time the fight starts??
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 20:05
by ApolloCreed
Anyone?
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 22:30
by ShadrachSimmo
After the Pac-Bradley fight replay. Boo.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 23:58
by ShadrachSimmo
Lee stopped in 7. Not a bad stoppage Lee wasnt too bad but Chavez is too fcukin big.
Re: Andy Lee v JCCJ in El Paso, June 16
Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 00:20
by slapbangwhallop
Gutted for Andy Lee. Fought a great opener but didnt have the strength to hold JCCJ off any long. Once Lee's jab lost authority it was a green light for Chavez.
I had it 3-3 after 6 rounds but getting caught against the ropes too frequently was the undoing of Andy.
Well done Andy and good luck in the future. Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr wins by 7th round TKO as Lee ships unanswered shots against the ropes.