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Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 16:33
by mcato
What are your predictions on Ochieng v Lowe

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 16:49
by safeerah
smoggy7188 wrote:I am missing something but who has Al Harbi beat? He hasnt won against anyone with a winning record yet.
He was on the verge of beating unbeaten Jamie Ball and had won every round on the judges card before a clash of heads caused a technical draw and he was supposed to fight Young Mutley 30-6 former british champion and European title challenger and was fancied by many to beat him, before Mutley pulled out, Ochieng had lost to fighter with a winning record before he beat one, so your argument is not strong, Nasser was also picked by BBB of C to fight an eliminator for the same title, before Ochieng was in the picture, considering Nasser was winning that one before a really bad stoppage for a very small cut, do you have an argument ?

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 16:51
by safeerah
mcato wrote:
safeerah wrote:
mcato wrote: Come on Saf it was a joke. As we know you can only fight who is in front of you. Hearns is smart he is putting a few Nottingham fighters on the bill. Liverpool has its time and Sheffield also but now its Nottingham.
True, but not good for boxing though. Like everyone else I was wonderfully entertained when Ochieng won the title, but this one, he will do what he wants, when he wants, how he wants.
Are you getting me back for Nasser Vs Mutley's comments I made? But you gotta remember Lowe is a 2 weight Champion.
No, your as good a salesman as me

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 16:59
by mcato
safeerah wrote:
smoggy7188 wrote:I am missing something but who has Al Harbi beat? He hasnt won against anyone with a winning record yet.
He was on the verge of beating unbeaten Jamie Ball and had won every round on the judges card before a clash of heads caused a technical draw and he was supposed to fight Young Mutley 30-6 former british champion and European title challenger and was fancied by many to beat him, before Mutley pulled out, Ochieng had lost to fighter with a winning record before he beat one, so your argument is not strong, Nasser was also picked by BBB of C to fight an eliminator for the same title, before Ochieng was in the picture, considering Nasser was winning that one before a really bad stoppage for a very small cut, do you have an argument ?
So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:15
by The Insider
mcato wrote: So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.
It would need to be another Midlands based fighter to keep the theme and possibly sell the tickets. Mark Lloyd would be a decent enough yard stick?????

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:22
by safeerah
The Insider wrote:
mcato wrote: So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.
It would need to be another Midlands based fighter to keep the theme and possibly sell the tickets. Mark Lloyd would be a decent enough yard stick?????
Maybeee, I don't know, put up a good show against Jamie Cox, but since then has not done a lot and did not look good against Mutley, but the Midlands theme I can agree with.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:23
by Tommy Gunn13
mcato wrote:
safeerah wrote:
smoggy7188 wrote:I am missing something but who has Al Harbi beat? He hasnt won against anyone with a winning record yet.
He was on the verge of beating unbeaten Jamie Ball and had won every round on the judges card before a clash of heads caused a technical draw and he was supposed to fight Young Mutley 30-6 former british champion and European title challenger and was fancied by many to beat him, before Mutley pulled out, Ochieng had lost to fighter with a winning record before he beat one, so your argument is not strong, Nasser was also picked by BBB of C to fight an eliminator for the same title, before Ochieng was in the picture, considering Nasser was winning that one before a really bad stoppage for a very small cut, do you have an argument ?
So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.
Cant see DC putting Al Haarbi anywhere near Selkirk,Nasser would get anialated :OhYes:

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:24
by Tommy Gunn13
The Insider wrote:
mcato wrote: So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.
It would need to be another Midlands based fighter to keep the theme and possibly sell the tickets. Mark Lloyd would be a decent enough yard stick?????
Lloyd is worse than Mutley,talk about stepping back...

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:28
by safeerah
mcato wrote:
safeerah wrote:
smoggy7188 wrote:I am missing something but who has Al Harbi beat? He hasnt won against anyone with a winning record yet.
He was on the verge of beating unbeaten Jamie Ball and had won every round on the judges card before a clash of heads caused a technical draw and he was supposed to fight Young Mutley 30-6 former british champion and European title challenger and was fancied by many to beat him, before Mutley pulled out, Ochieng had lost to fighter with a winning record before he beat one, so your argument is not strong, Nasser was also picked by BBB of C to fight an eliminator for the same title, before Ochieng was in the picture, considering Nasser was winning that one before a really bad stoppage for a very small cut, do you have an argument ?
So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.[/quote

Nasser has fought at welter, though because of lack of opportunities,we tried light middle, for the Ball fight we weighed in light at 10.11 and 11.3 on the day, since when has Selkirk made Light Middle ? On the day of the fight he weighs about 12.5 stone, he is being fed smaller men, let him fight some good Middles then we will see how good he is.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:31
by smoggy7188
Joe Selkirk @ Joe Selkirk69

"unbeaten light-middleweight professional boxer" liverpool.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:32
by The Insider
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
The Insider wrote:
mcato wrote: So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.
It would need to be another Midlands based fighter to keep the theme and possibly sell the tickets. Mark Lloyd would be a decent enough yard stick?????
Lloyd is worse than Mutley,talk about stepping back...
Agreed but IF (and its an if) DC is having to get another Midlands based fighter in to pad the place out there is little other alternative (possibly Portman). I still think Lloyd v Nas would be a decent enough fight. I expect Nas would dominate from the outside but Mark has huge heart and is very determind and keeps coming so would Nas cope with the pressure. Ideally I'd like to see Nas v Ball again and to finally see whiz the better man.




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Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:34
by Tommy Gunn13
safeerah wrote:
mcato wrote:
safeerah wrote:He was on the verge of beating unbeaten Jamie Ball and had won every round on the judges card before a clash of heads caused a technical draw and he was supposed to fight Young Mutley 30-6 former british champion and European title challenger and was fancied by many to beat him, before Mutley pulled out, Ochieng had lost to fighter with a winning record before he beat one, so your argument is not strong, Nasser was also picked by BBB of C to fight an eliminator for the same title, before Ochieng was in the picture, considering Nasser was winning that one before a really bad stoppage for a very small cut, do you have an argument ?
So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.[/quote

Nasser has fought at welter, though because of lack of opportunities,we tried light middle, for the Ball fight we weighed in light at 10.11 and 11.3 on the day, since when has Selkirk made Light Middle ? On the day of the fight he weighs about 12.5 stone, he is being fed smaller men, let him fight some good Middles then we will see how good he is.
Mark Thompson is signed with DC now,ask for that fight hes welter/l middle

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:35
by safeerah
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
mcato wrote:
safeerah wrote:He was on the verge of beating unbeaten Jamie Ball and had won every round on the judges card before a clash of heads caused a technical draw and he was supposed to fight Young Mutley 30-6 former british champion and European title challenger and was fancied by many to beat him, before Mutley pulled out, Ochieng had lost to fighter with a winning record before he beat one, so your argument is not strong, Nasser was also picked by BBB of C to fight an eliminator for the same title, before Ochieng was in the picture, considering Nasser was winning that one before a really bad stoppage for a very small cut, do you have an argument ?
So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.
Cant see DC putting Al Haarbi anywhere near Selkirk,Nasser would get anialated :OhYes:
You don't know anything about boxing mate, Selkirk is one- dimentional and has was lucky to beat O'Meara and pushed by inferior fighters, he is quite slow and needs fight boxers his own size.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:38
by smoggy7188
Tom Costello is a Midlander, why dont u go after him?

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:50
by safeerah
smoggy7188 wrote:Tom Costello is a Midlander, why dont u go after him?
Firstly we don't go after anyone, the Promoter choices the matches I agree if there is something to gain career wise. We know Thomas very well and have sparred with him many times, good fighter but he is fighting for the world youth title about a week or two after our fight. Maybe you should stick your liverpool sources.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 17:57
by safeerah
The Insider wrote:
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
The Insider wrote: It would need to be another Midlands based fighter to keep the theme and possibly sell the tickets. Mark Lloyd would be a decent enough yard stick?????
Lloyd is worse than Mutley,talk about stepping back...
Agreed but IF (and its an if) DC is having to get another Midlands based fighter in to pad the place out there is little other alternative (possibly Portman). I still think Lloyd v Nas would be a decent enough fight. I expect Nas would dominate from the outside but Mark has huge heart and is very determind and keeps coming so would Nas cope with the pressure. Ideally I'd like to see Nas v Ball again and to finally see whiz the better man.



Insider when are you going get INSIDER the Ball camp and see they don't want anything to do with Al Harbi because they know who is the better man.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 18:00
by The Insider
safeerah wrote:


Insider when are you going get INSIDER the Ball camp and see they don't want anything to do with Al Harbi because they know who is the better man.
Hey, ill take your word for it, but I'd personally like to see the aforementioned fight to a satisfactory conclusion. I got the feeling it was just about to bubble up nicely.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 18:16
by safeerah
The Insider wrote:
safeerah wrote:


Insider when are you going get INSIDER the Ball camp and see they don't want anything to do with Al Harbi because they know who is the better man.
Hey, ill take your word for it, but I'd personally like to see the aforementioned fight to a satisfactory conclusion. I got the feeling it was just about to bubble up nicely.
Insider nobody would like the rematch more then Nasser believe me, he has a technical draw on his record for terrible decision by the officials, when he was in control and getting stronger.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 02:39
by Tommy Gunn13
safeerah wrote:
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
mcato wrote: So why has he pulled out? and who is he going to fight. I know a boxer who is crying out to fight.....Joe Selkirk.
Cant see DC putting Al Haarbi anywhere near Selkirk,Nasser would get anialated :OhYes:
You don't know anything about boxing mate, Selkirk is one- dimentional and has was lucky to beat O'Meara and pushed by inferior fighters, he is quite slow and needs fight boxers his own size.
I know enough about boxing to know Selkirk would hammer Nasser..ask for the fight then if you think differant :OhYes:

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 03:12
by safeerah
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
safeerah wrote:
Tommy Gunn13 wrote: Cant see DC putting Al Haarbi anywhere near Selkirk,Nasser would get anialated :OhYes:
You don't know anything about boxing mate, Selkirk is one- dimentional and has was lucky to beat O'Meara and pushed by inferior fighters, he is quite slow and needs fight boxers his own size.
I know enough about boxing to know Selkirk would hammer Nasser..ask for the fight then if you think differant :OhYes:
Trolling early mate. We was on the verge of fighting him last year but they wanted to weigh in at 11st 4 Ilbs the day before and gave us 2 weeks notice, bet you did not know that Selkirks biggest fan, lets see who goes the furthest shall we then I will remind you, easy to sit by your computer and talk bul when not a party to itl. We fight on away shows as well, not just on home shows and look at the O'meara fight, when he is in with a boxer instead of a journeyman he struggles a bit, lets see if he can fight at 11st on the day, nasser can do that any day of the week, like I said you do not know about boxing, now go back and watch your Selkirk videos again.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 03:20
by safeerah
safeerah wrote:
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
safeerah wrote:You don't know anything about boxing mate, Selkirk is one- dimentional and has was lucky to beat O'Meara and pushed by inferior fighters, he is quite slow and needs fight boxers his own size.
I know enough about boxing to know Selkirk would hammer Nasser..ask for the fight then if you think differant :OhYes:
Trolling early mate. We was on the verge of fighting him last year but they wanted to weigh in at 11st 4 Ilbs the day before and gave us 2 weeks notice, bet you did not know that Selkirks biggest fan, lets see who goes the furthest shall we then I will remind you, easy to sit by your computer and talk bul when not a party to itl. We fight on away shows as well, not just on home shows and look at the O'meara fight, when he is in with a boxer instead of a journeyman he struggles a bit, lets see if he can fight at 11st on the day, nasser can do that any day of the week, like I said you do not know about boxing, now go back and watch your Selkirk videos again.
Now lets get back to the subject Ochieng V Lowe. Stoppage to Ochieng late on after out boxing the tough Lowe, maybe body shots, then Ochieng will put a challenge to Rose.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 03:24
by The Insider
Ok so looks like there may be a little Trolling going on here but I think Selkirk v Al Harbi would be a good fight. Selkirk is no mug. You gotta do well To stop Carruthers and Manoo. Both these lads are a proper handful.

Erick inside 5 for me.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 03:30
by Tommy Gunn13
The Insider wrote:Ok so looks like there may be a little Trolling going on here but I think Selkirk v Al Harbi would be a good fight. Selkirk is no mug. You gotta do well To stop Carruthers and Manoo. Both these lads are a proper handful.

Erick inside 5 for me.
Hows that trolling,me saying Selkirk would beat him!!!

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 03:34
by safeerah
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
The Insider wrote:Ok so looks like there may be a little Trolling going on here but I think Selkirk v Al Harbi would be a good fight. Selkirk is no mug. You gotta do well To stop Carruthers and Manoo. Both these lads are a proper handful.

Erick inside 5 for me.
Hows that trolling,me saying Selkirk would beat him!!!
I meant Trolling the forums early, It was a joke mate.

Re: Froch Undercard- OCHIENG V AA LOWE (English Belt)

Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 03:37
by Tommy Gunn13
safeerah wrote:
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
The Insider wrote:Ok so looks like there may be a little Trolling going on here but I think Selkirk v Al Harbi would be a good fight. Selkirk is no mug. You gotta do well To stop Carruthers and Manoo. Both these lads are a proper handful.

Erick inside 5 for me.
Hows that trolling,me saying Selkirk would beat him!!!
I meant Trolling the forums early, It was a joke mate.
Im always an early bird :wink:
Ive put a poll up to see who people think,im not saying your boy isnt a good fighter but i dont believe he would live with Selkirk thats all