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Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 25 Apr 2012, 10:26
by Jeff Thomas
billy bessey wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:
JamesH wrote: So do some pro's mate.
Ha ha :box: well they've usually done it the hard way so I think they've certainly got more right to believe that to some juiced up roid bomb who knocks over a dummy
Take away the top twenty pros at most weights and I think you will find very little difference in standards Jeff every week you get people on here slagging unlicensed off 2 local pros at my old gym used to always slag shite collar off on fb so I took one of my lads up to spar them and they barely landed a punch on him yes some do parade around as if they're the dogs conkers but the same applies to half the pros outside the top 20 in most weights cos unlike in most sports pros don't actually have to be any good in order to be employed and half ain't
Fair point billy... I think the traditional novice amateur, open class amateur, novice pro route deserves more respect but that's maybe just from what I see in my neck of the woods. Undoubtably there are some decent unlicensed lads but at the same time there is nothing other then a keen eye to separate them from their less credible counter parts ... IMO of course

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 25 Apr 2012, 11:33
by oliverfennell
Fat Git wrote:All people want to see is a 50/50 fight - nobody wants to see a 60-54 job.
I would. One of the guys would have to have a third arm or a second head to get that equation.

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 26 Apr 2012, 16:36
by reggaereggae
oliverfennell wrote:
Fat Git wrote:All people want to see is a 50/50 fight - nobody wants to see a 60-54 job.
I would. One of the guys would have to have a third arm or a second head to get that equation.
:lol: :lol:

Does he not mean the score card rather than win percentage???

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 03 May 2012, 10:05
by mrgreen
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Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 03 May 2012, 10:26
by mrgreen
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Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 03 May 2012, 14:57
by mrgreen
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Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 31 May 2012, 16:17
by john welsh
I`m sorry if you feel that way,but i have to say that semi pro boxing is a complete and utter joke...fact

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 31 May 2012, 16:29
by Greavesy
john welsh wrote:I`m sorry if you feel that way,but i have to say that semi pro boxing is a complete and utter joke...fact
Its not how it used to be

Many of them are very good

ive seen some better than pro shows

of course theres some that are crap

but same can even be said about world title bouts

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 31 May 2012, 16:30
by Adamj1987
Greavesy wrote:
john welsh wrote:I`m sorry if you feel that way,but i have to say that semi pro boxing is a complete and utter joke...fact
Its not how it used to be

Many of them are very good

ive seen some better than pro shows

of course theres some that are crap

but same can even be said about world title bouts
i have to agree one of the best fights ive seen was on a EBF card in blackpool but there was a few 1 punch and quit fights

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 31 May 2012, 16:35
by john welsh
Greavesy wrote:
john welsh wrote:I`m sorry if you feel that way,but i have to say that semi pro boxing is a complete and utter joke...fact
Its not how it used to be

Many of them are very good

ive seen some better than pro shows

of course theres some that are crap

but same can even be said about world title bouts
Oh i agree,these days though it`s a 20 stone piss head from the local pub vs mr gym head from the local gym fighting for a paper title.
I haven`t been boxing myself for a couple of months and I went boxing yesterday and there were 3 people there in a club that used to train over 20 fighters,i asked where had everyone gone and i was told that they train on "semi pro nights"...basically semi pro killed the club i used to train in and all the lads hopped over...boxing will be dead because of it.

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 31 May 2012, 16:40
by Greavesy
john welsh wrote:
Greavesy wrote:
john welsh wrote:I`m sorry if you feel that way,but i have to say that semi pro boxing is a complete and utter joke...fact
Its not how it used to be

Many of them are very good

ive seen some better than pro shows

of course theres some that are crap

but same can even be said about world title bouts
Oh i agree,these days though it`s a 20 stone piss head from the local pub vs mr gym head from the local gym fighting for a paper title.
I haven`t been boxing myself for a couple of months and I went boxing yesterday and there were 3 people there in a club that used to train over 20 fighters,i asked where had everyone gone and i was told that they train on "semi pro nights"...basically semi pro killed the club i used to train in and all the lads hopped over...boxing will be dead because of it.

sometimes people have to go where the money is

if they were top amateurs the likely would have stayed as amateurs

if not then they wouldnt have lasted anyway at the club

it may have just revved up the inevitible

of course i dont know your club

but unlicensed boxing will never ever kill the sport

as long as people are participating and coming into the sport

then the sport will continue

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 31 May 2012, 18:22
by markfightoptions
iftkwoody wrote:I think its bad I lose a lot of ticket sales to guys on these shows. Then again people want to see tear ups and most people wouldnt know a decent fighter if they see one. I understand why people do it but it does always make me winder when the promoters of these shows talk as if their fighters are good enough to warrant their titles of british oreuropean champ. I just think people are being duped into a low quality night of boxing just because joe bloggs down the local pub sells more tickets
No more than

Local Prospect 5-0 Vs Journeyman 3-127


Im a pro promoter but to be honest there is normally a really good nights entertainment in watching 2 guys smash each other to pieces, wouldnt it be good if we could promote both types of fights on the same night (hint hint LBF)

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 04:04
by Wake up call
markfightoptions wrote:
iftkwoody wrote:I think its bad I lose a lot of ticket sales to guys on these shows. Then again people want to see tear ups and most people wouldnt know a decent fighter if they see one. I understand why people do it but it does always make me winder when the promoters of these shows talk as if their fighters are good enough to warrant their titles of british oreuropean champ. I just think people are being duped into a low quality night of boxing just because joe bloggs down the local pub sells more tickets
No more than

Local Prospect 5-0 Vs Journeyman 3-127


Im a pro promoter but to be honest there is normally a really good nights entertainment in watching 2 guys smash each other to pieces, wouldnt it be good if we could promote both types of fights on the same night (hint hint LBF)
That's what Bruce is trying to create with the Lux Box board - a system where white collar and pro boxing exist together so that small hall promoters can make money again.

Personally, I don't like it as I'm a BBBofC supporter through and through but it's easy to see the logic behind it.

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 08:27
by stujones
Hi Peter (Jacko).

Just a quick question, a geniune question I don't know the answer.... you say in one of your post that you have licences, approrpaite medical staff etc.

Who issues your licence? If its not BBBoC - then how is it licenced?

Geniune question.

Re: Semi pro boxing killing a dying sport

Posted: 02 Jun 2012, 09:25
by john welsh
stujones wrote:Hi Peter (Jacko).

Just a quick question, a geniune question I don't know the answer.... you say in one of your post that you have licences, approrpaite medical staff etc.

Who issues your licence? If its not BBBoC - then how is it licenced?

Geniune question.
Never thought of that,be interesting to know.