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Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 03:04
by macinger
I think Burns can outbox Mitchell, despite this one will be fighting at home.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 04:31
by Emmseegee
Did you see Burns spar mitchell in the lead up to the Mitchell v Murray fight?
I can remember rumours around that time that burns had too much for mitchell in the sparring sessions which resulted in them being cut short. Possibly just rumours but at the time when i heard it i was tempted to whack a decent sum on murray to stop mitchell. Glad i didnt.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 04:38
by Gazmac81
i would Pick Burns in this one and possible stoppage,
those body shots he was whacking into Katsidas were hurting him and hes a tough tough man.

More Likely Burns points but defo think hell win.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 05:29
by Emmseegee
Thats exactly what i was thinking when i said i thought burns could stop him.
His body shots have improved big time over the years. although his record doesnt suggest it i think burns hits a fair bit harder than a lot of people give him credit for.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 08:21
by Terrrrry
Gazmac81 wrote:i would Pick Burns in this one and possible stoppage,
those body shots he was whacking into Katsidas were hurting him and hes a tough tough man.
Could well have been due to the fact that Katsidis was struggling like hell to make lightweight. He said so himself after the fight.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 09:16
by Autobarn
Terrrrry wrote:
Gazmac81 wrote:i would Pick Burns in this one and possible stoppage,
those body shots he was whacking into Katsidas were hurting him and hes a tough tough man.
Could well have been due to the fact that Katsidis was struggling like hell to make lightweight. He said so himself after the fight.
prior to the burns fight, katsidis did announce he was moving up to 140, so this looks well founded.

however, prior to facing mitchell, prescott was about to go up to 140. so he will have been tight, also.

anyway, this will be a great fight and i'm glad of this rather than mitchell-rees which left burns without an opponent and mitchell iwthout the world title fight he seemed to have earned by beating murray.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 09:26
by TheCobra
Definite 50/50 fight, depends which version of Mitchell turns up. Great matchup.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 09:30
by Crazyboy
yep agree totally, this is the kind of fight we need!!!

Great great fight and the second time i will see Mitchell at Upton park, hopefully he turns up this time and its a proper fight.

See Burns nicking it in a close one, like someone said earlier, Mitchell won't want to perform in front at Upton Park like he did last time, but i do think Burns has the edge.

Bring it on!!! :TU:

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 10:32
by Emmseegee
Gutted that this fight in England, people who follow Burns have spent good money to see him against lesser opponents up here in Scotland and now both of his most recent big fights have been in England.

Mitchell should be coming to Ricky's back yard to fight, sadly money talks. Obviously if rumours are to be believed then its gonna be a good card but still disappointed of the location. Burns hasn't filled the Braehead Arena but in my eyes a lot of that has been due to match ups with lesser known opponents. Burns V Mitchell or even Burns v Katsidis would have sold well here. Especially if it was promoted and advertised properly.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 10:44
by Camcas
Easy fight for Burns logical money fight, but really not excited by it as Burns is just too good for Mitchell

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 11:01
by jessi
Emmseegee wrote:Did you see Burns spar mitchell in the lead up to the Mitchell v Murray fight?
I can remember rumours around that time that burns had too much for mitchell in the sparring sessions which resulted in them being cut short. Possibly just rumours but at the time when i heard it i was tempted to whack a decent sum on murray to stop mitchell. Glad i didnt.
Lead up to Prescott fight, it was 50/50 but it always seemed Mitchell had two more gears, I'm really looking forward to this one, yes I'm a big fan of Mitchell, same sir name and from the same area, older members of both families know each other.
I really like Ricky too, I remember watching him on BBC on his pro debut, always knew he could be good, great role model, I believe it's a 50/50 fight according to the bookies, but my money's on Mitchell and I want him to win too, the fans are the winners here !

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 11:03
by jessi
Camcas wrote:Easy fight for Burns logical money fight, but really not excited by it as Burns is just too good for Mitchell
If you think this is an easy fight for burns you need to stop smoking that wacky backy mate !

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 11:08
by Camcas
jessi wrote:
Camcas wrote:Easy fight for Burns logical money fight, but really not excited by it as Burns is just too good for Mitchell
If you think this is an easy fight for burns you need to stop smoking that wacky backy mate !
It is an easy fight, Burns will just work out the jab and body shots and control the whole fight.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 11:30
by TheCobra
Camcas wrote:
jessi wrote:
Camcas wrote:Easy fight for Burns logical money fight, but really not excited by it as Burns is just too good for Mitchell
If you think this is an easy fight for burns you need to stop smoking that wacky backy mate !
It is an easy fight, Burns will just work out the jab and body shots and control the whole fight.
Mitchell is far too clever and able for this to be an easy fight for Burns. Mitchell has a bag of boxing ability and a powerful dig to pull him out of trouble if needed. Burns doesn't have a really hard dig on him, so that evens it up as he is probably the more well-rounded boxer in terms of staying disciplined and not making many mistakes in a fight. A really intriguing battle, certainly not one I expect to be easy for either man.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 11:40
by jessi
Camcas wrote:
jessi wrote:
Camcas wrote:Easy fight for Burns logical money fight, but really not excited by it as Burns is just too good for Mitchell
If you think this is an easy fight for burns you need to stop smoking that wacky backy mate !
It is an easy fight, Burns will just work out the jab and body shots and control the whole fight.
Totally disagree, I think Mitchell wins personally but I would never say it's an easy fight, it's genuine 50/50

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 12:07
by billy nelson
Terrrrry wrote:There's no doubt that the Katsidis that Burns beat was a completely different animal to what Mitchell faced (I.E after JMM and Guerrero). However I feel this will be a very even fight, and I'm not sure who I'd fancy, which is weird as Mitchell seems to punch harder, even though I've always said he should campaign at SFW.

I can't recall the last decent fighter than Burns put down?

This is the type of fight we need in British boxing! :box:
You dont need to put them down to beat them up mate!fornicate sake learn the game mate :TU:

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 12:08
by billy nelson
jessi wrote:
Emmseegee wrote:he won't let the local fans down again? thats a poor argument that one.
What has Mitchell got that Burns hasnt? The only edge i would give him is power, but i don't think he is powerful enough to stop burns.
My only concern is that if it goes to the cards then mitchell obviously has the advantage with being at home.
I saw them spar two years ago.
No you never it was 1 year ago and look what happened and it will again

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 12:12
by billy nelson
This fight hasnt even been mentioned to us for the 14th June doesnt matter anyway only one winner,i know ive the better man by some margin

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 12:39
by jessi
billy nelson wrote:This fight hasnt even been mentioned to us for the 14th June doesnt matter anyway only one winner,i know ive the better man by some margin
Billy you must know deep down kevins gona beat your man, abit like cottos trainer, he never really believed it, the talks just talk and it sells fights :bag:

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 13:04
by Terrrrry
billy nelson wrote:
Terrrrry wrote:There's no doubt that the Katsidis that Burns beat was a completely different animal to what Mitchell faced (I.E after JMM and Guerrero). However I feel this will be a very even fight, and I'm not sure who I'd fancy, which is weird as Mitchell seems to punch harder, even though I've always said he should campaign at SFW.

I can't recall the last decent fighter than Burns put down?

This is the type of fight we need in British boxing! :box:
You dont need to put them down to beat them up mate!eff sake learn the game mate :TU:
I like your man Billy. However every fighter that hasn't been able to really hurt Mitchell has ended up losing.

If Mitchell can walk through Burns' shots, then your man will have to do well to withstand Kevin's power.

Best of luck to both men. I can't wait for this one and will definitely be buying a ticket!

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 13:20
by jamiedavies02
billy nelson wrote:
jessi wrote:
Emmseegee wrote:he won't let the local fans down again? thats a poor argument that one.
What has Mitchell got that Burns hasnt? The only edge i would give him is power, but i don't think he is powerful enough to stop burns.
My only concern is that if it goes to the cards then mitchell obviously has the advantage with being at home.
I saw them spar two years ago.
No you never it was 1 year ago and look what happened and it will again
What happend when they sparred?

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 13:54
by TheCobra
I always love Billy Nelson's posts!

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 14:06
by Finn
jamiedavies02 wrote:
billy nelson wrote:
jessi wrote: I saw them spar two years ago.
No you never it was 1 year ago and look what happened and it will again
What happend when they sparred?
Its not that bigger secret that mitchell was out classed.

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 14:52
by billy nelson
kingfinn wrote:
jamiedavies02 wrote:
billy nelson wrote: No you never it was 1 year ago and look what happened and it will again
What happend when they sparred?
Its not that bigger secret that mitchell was out classed.
Badly outclassed and the exact same will happen if they ever meet do beleive me,theres not a Lightweight in the UK to touch Ricky

Re: Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

Posted: 07 May 2012, 14:53
by billy nelson
kingfinn wrote:
jamiedavies02 wrote:
billy nelson wrote: No you never it was 1 year ago and look what happened and it will again
What happend when they sparred?
Its not that bigger secret that mitchell was out classed.
Badly outclassed and the exact same will happen if they ever meet do beleive me,theres not a Lightweight in the UK to touch Ricky