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Haye will stop Chisora with ease , and Fury would still beat him with the same ease to .
To much has been made of Chisora plodding forward for 12 rounds against Vitali ...i recon haye would beat the vitali Chisora fought :)

What about Haye's inactivity, could that play a part? Judging by his conditioning in interviews etc he of course has been ticking over in the gym, but has he been doing the sparring etc in the 12 months out?

I think Haye is too fast and too powerful for Chisora, he has great explosive one punch KO power than both Vitali and Helenius. I definately think he had Chisora hurt in the brawl, sure it was a bit of a cheap shot that caught him unawares - but Haye has the speed to land like that again.

Inactivity could be a factor though.

mrpedigree wrote:To much has been made of Chisora plodding forward for 12 rounds against Vitali ...

In fairness, most were saying it before that fight, in fact most were saying it before the Helenius fight.

I really don't get everyone's new found love with Chisora, All the ifs and buts that if he came in fit against Fury it would have been a different fight. Fury's not even fit, he took a couple of roundhouse's from Chisora and stood upto them (he's been knocked down and looked sh1ter against lesser boxers.) Since then he fought the finnish bloke. Let's face it Fury would beat him with ease. Then he went in and gave it ago against Vitali (but still got widely outpointed by the lesser brother.)
Haye can actually box. He's a blown up cruiser but Chisora does'nt even compare. When Fury and Chisora do fight again (and Fury wins by the same easy points victory) You'll all be saying Chisora's past his prime

There's no doubt that Chisora is durable but I think Haye does a number on him and stops him in or around the 8th.
I truly believe that this could be the fight that gets David's star shining bright again.

MachoMan09 wrote:

yid14 wrote:I really don't get everyone's new found love with Chisora...

People just get swept along with the circus, mate. Chisora is game but he's feather fisted, uncreative, and a habitual loser. I always support events that I believe will get boxing in the headlines because I love the sport, so I'm in favour of Haye vs Chisora. However, it's yet another piece of piss route to big money for David Haye. People often say that boxing is the toughest game in the world; it isn't, not by a long chalk when you can earn a fortune for fighting guys who are way, way below your level.

And he is. I paid 50 quid (just the ticket price) to see that lazy f#ck against Fury. Fact is I'm glad I didn't pay pay to see Haye-Klitsko in Germany. He embarrassed himself bigtime. But to say Chisora is even worthy of a fight with Haye is crazy. Haye won't fight Chisora anyway so it's a pointless thread, started up by an american who has no yank heavyweights to talk about.

yid14 wrote:Since then he fought the finnish bloke. Let's face it Fury would beat him with ease.

Really? On what basis do you make that comment given Fury's struggled with fighters below Helenius' level?

My prediction is that they will sell loads of tickets for the event, and then the fight won't happen, and Warren will place Burns v Mitchell on the bill instead.....

Deserter wrote:

yid14 wrote:Since then he fought the finnish bloke. Let's face it Fury would beat him with ease.

Really? On what basis do you make that comment given Fury's struggled with fighters below Helenius' level?

On the basis that Helenius is rubbish. Stand up, sh1t jab, plodding opponents who are hand picked (apart from Chisora, who fury beat with ease.)

MachoMan09 wrote:

yid14 wrote:Haye won't fight Chisora anyway so it's a pointless thread

What makes you say that?

Why would Haye come out of retirement for Dereck Chisora? He could fight Wlad and make 10 times more. He's all about the money. It would prove nothing beating a boxing nonety for relatively nothing.

yid14 wrote:

Deserter wrote:

yid14 wrote:Since then he fought the finnish bloke. Let's face it Fury would beat him with ease.

Really? On what basis do you make that comment given Fury's struggled with fighters below Helenius' level?

On the basis that Helenius is rubbish. Stand up, sh1t jab, plodding opponents who are hand picked (apart from Chisora, who fury beat with ease.)

If that's how you'd describe Helenius, how would you describe the opponents Fury has struggled with historically? You're being remarkably inconsistent. If Fury was Finnish you'd have a different perspective.

According to Boxrec schedule this is for the WBO international title

Deserter wrote:

yid14 wrote:

Deserter wrote: Really? On what basis do you make that comment given Fury's struggled with fighters below Helenius' level?

On the basis that Helenius is rubbish. Stand up, sh1t jab, plodding opponents who are hand picked (apart from Chisora, who fury beat with ease.)

If that's how you'd describe Helenius, how would you describe the opponents Fury has struggled with historically? You're being remarkably inconsistent. If Fury was Finnish you'd have a different perspective.

Inconsistent? I don't rate Fury, but he p1ssed all over Chisora. Chisora didn't get the result he deserved against Helenius. Easy 1,2,3 there. None of them would beat Haye.

MachoMan09 wrote:

yid14 wrote:

MachoMan09 wrote: What makes you say that?

Why would Haye come out of retirement for Dereck Chisora? He could fight Wlad and make 10 times more. He's all about the money. It would prove nothing beating a boxing nonety for relatively nothing.

This fight is easy money for him and by all accounts it's happening in July at Upton Park.

we'll see. It's on the luxenburg thread, sounds abit far fetched. Still keeps them both in the limelight without throwing a punch, right up both there streets.

And? can't get a stream. Will I have to delete everything I've said for an hour? (Apart from the fact I don't rate Lazy Chisora.) What's with the ban?

yid14 wrote:

Deserter wrote:

yid14 wrote: On the basis that Helenius is rubbish. Stand up, sh1t jab, plodding opponents who are hand picked (apart from Chisora, who fury beat with ease.)

If that's how you'd describe Helenius, how would you describe the opponents Fury has struggled with historically? You're being remarkably inconsistent. If Fury was Finnish you'd have a different perspective.

Inconsistent? I don't rate Fury, but he p1ssed all over Chisora. Chisora didn't get the result he deserved against Helenius. Easy 1,2,3 there. None of them would beat Haye.

Which completely glosses over the point others have made on this thread which is that the Chisora who faced Helenius was a different fighter to the one who fought Fury.

Deserter wrote:

yid14 wrote:

Deserter wrote: If that's how you'd describe Helenius, how would you describe the opponents Fury has struggled with historically? You're being remarkably inconsistent. If Fury was Finnish you'd have a different perspective.

Inconsistent? I don't rate Fury, but he p1ssed all over Chisora. Chisora didn't get the result he deserved against Helenius. Easy 1,2,3 there. None of them would beat Haye.

Which completely glosses over the point others have made on this thread which is that the Chisora who faced Helenius was a different fighter to the one who fought Fury.

Exactly, of course he was. Denials to contrary are pointless as Chisora has never been in as bad as shape as he was against Fury. I don't like Chisora, I do like Fury, but no one should pretend that their fight was both of them at their best. I'm sure Fury couldn't believe his luck.

Chisora isn't great, Fury isn't either. However, I think its unfair to judge Chisoras losses against Euro and world champs on a par with Fury fighting the likes of Rogan.

Great fight but Haye wins this very easily probably by around 8th rd ref stoppage after Haye gives Chisora an absolute pounding and the ref finally jumps in to save Derek from taking any more punishment.

Chisora wins.
once hayes hayemakers slow down from tiredness del boy ko`s him!

Deserter wrote:

yid14 wrote:

Deserter wrote: If that's how you'd describe Helenius, how would you describe the opponents Fury has struggled with historically? You're being remarkably inconsistent. If Fury was Finnish you'd have a different perspective.

Inconsistent? I don't rate Fury, but he p1ssed all over Chisora. Chisora didn't get the result he deserved against Helenius. Easy 1,2,3 there. None of them would beat Haye.

Which completely glosses over the point others have made on this thread which is that the Chisora who faced Helenius was a different fighter to the one who fought Fury.

But Fury would hammer Helenius. Just like he did Chisora. It doesn't make any of them any good.

Heavyweight boxing at the moment is pretty sh1t. It's been sh1t for years. Let's be honest. My honest prediction.... A cuddlefest. Haye stops him because Chisora is fat, and lazy.

yid14 wrote:But Fury would hammer Helenius.

If you honestly believe that, we'll clearly have to agree to disagree.

john welsh wrote:Chisora wins.
once hayes hayemakers slow down from tiredness del boy ko`s him!

Yes, I think Chisora will take him out late.

Haye will stop him, pretty early, I reckon.

Ring rust could be a factor since Haye hasn't fought for a while. As for who wins I don't really care. Both of them are just circus sideshows as far as world heavyweight boxing is concerned.