Posted: 20 Mar 2004, 04:49
I love watching X rated stuff especially the finishing shot! 
Tooooo strong for Holyfield
! he will get killed :P !
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Rocky Marciano v Evander Holyfield (both at 188lbs)
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Posted: 20 Mar 2004, 09:32
[quote="$eif"]Rocky!
Tooooo strong for Holyfield ! he will get killed :P !
Tooooo strong for Holyfield
! he will get killed :P !Posted: 21 Mar 2004, 09:09
As much as i like Rocky i seriously can't see him beating Holy i remeber holy at 188 it was awsome he was a complete tank i would see him winning by a scrappy UD with lots of blood.
Posted: 21 Mar 2004, 13:19
Like I said before this fight would closley resemble the charles fights.
Rocky did have a defense . He bobbed & weaved , He had the peek-a-boo style. He also leaned down low to avoid a shot or come back ovet the top with the looping right hand. His offense was also his defense beating what ever part of the body he could hit.
One other piece worth mentioning is Holyfield always came back big after the other guy let his wad blow .
This means when Rocky unloaded Holy would come right back in the same round.
This could make the difference up when Holy rests in between minutes & steal rounds or get a late ko. Both fought in the 15 round era so who knows for sure who would run out of gas . ( The Qawi one was a fantastic display of stanima for holy at cruiserweight>)
Rocky did have a defense . He bobbed & weaved , He had the peek-a-boo style. He also leaned down low to avoid a shot or come back ovet the top with the looping right hand. His offense was also his defense beating what ever part of the body he could hit.
One other piece worth mentioning is Holyfield always came back big after the other guy let his wad blow .
This means when Rocky unloaded Holy would come right back in the same round.
This could make the difference up when Holy rests in between minutes & steal rounds or get a late ko. Both fought in the 15 round era so who knows for sure who would run out of gas . ( The Qawi one was a fantastic display of stanima for holy at cruiserweight>)
Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 21:02
"In the rematch Charles was putting a licking on Rocky, but with the fight in danger of being stopped on cuts, Rocky went all out and smashed Ez."Eric the Viking wrote:If that midget walked 4 times out of 5 and socked the ball out of the stadium the 5th time, the analogy would be more apt. Unlike the midget, Marciano wasn't just a stationary target, albeit one with a great chin.Jaclem wrote:...when bill veeck managed the white sox he put a midget in to pinch hit. small strike zone. i guess you could say he was a tough out because of his skills.
Look, no one is saying the Rock was anywhere near as good a pure boxer as Moore or Charles, but the fact that he beat them both says something. These guys didn't lose to crude slugger types.
You could look at Jirov as a modern-day analog of Marciano, though the Rock was even better conditioned and hit way harder. Both guys are relentless come-forward types, take a lot of shots but their excellent chin, stamina and mental toughness keep them in the fight until an opportunity presents itself. But unlike Jirov, if Marciano saw a small opening or created one with his patented right-hand feint followed by a left hook bomb, it was over. The only man who ever went the full 15 with him in a championship bout was the immortal Ezzard Charles. In the rematch Charles was putting a licking on Rocky, but with the fight in danger of being stopped on cuts, Rocky went all out and smashed Ez. That may not be pure boxing skill, but it's the heart of a champion, and it's even rarer.
He didn't have a lot of tricks, but he used the few tricks he had exceedingly well, and his sheer relentlessness and fitness won him many a fight. The nickname "The Rock" is very appropriate, because many a slick-boxing heavy broke on him and was left a splintered wreck.
Actually Charles wasn't really putting a licking on Marciano before the knockout. Charles was down and nearly out in the second round, and it seemed like Rocky was going to win easily until Charles started sharp-shooting and split his nose open with that uppercut, and at that point Charles admittedly did seem to be putting a licking on Rocky and nearly had a come-from-behind win, only to lose in an opponent's come-from-behind win.