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yid14 wrote:I watched it live but was p1ssed so couldn't comment. Just seen the fight in full, and I think Caperello won by a round. He is a little more refined and boxed nicely off the ropes. 99-93 Mr Westerman was you drinking aswell? Slow fight but the last two rounds were cracking. Love to see a re-match.

Dale's had the odd fight where he's seen things a little differently to the other judges.

Brute wrote:Pownceby has his sixth 12 rounder coming up. He holds a WBO regional title. What has Berridge got? Last night was his
first ten rounder.

Powencby hasn't the ability of Berridge, plain and simple, Powencby's best win is against Casey, Powencby has been managed better than Berridge, but Berridge is a very, very good fighter and deserves the number 1 ranking in New Zealand and i would rank him at 2 in this region. I had it 6-3-1 to Caperello, and Caperello had Berridge hurt a couple of times in the fight, so i would like to see a rematch as well. Great fight.

NZNBF light heavy ratings as of April

Champ: Soulan Pownceby
1. Warren Fuiava
2. Robert Berridge
3. Daniel McKinnon
4. Taito Raturere

That's it

Hounddawg wrote:

Brute wrote:Pownceby has his sixth 12 rounder coming up. He holds a WBO regional title. What has Berridge got? Last night was his
first ten rounder.

Powencby hasn't the ability of Berridge, plain and simple, Powencby's best win is against Casey, Powencby has been managed better than Berridge, but Berridge is a very, very good fighter and deserves the number 1 ranking in New Zealand and i would rank him at 2 in this region. I had it 6-3-1 to Caperello, and Caperello had Berridge hurt a couple of times in the fight, so i would like to see a rematch as well. Great fight.

Ability - Hmmmm what do you define as ability?
Pownceby is an Olympian 2004 and as an amateur won NZ Senior titles at middle, light-heavy and heavyweight along with 4 Oceania gold medals - was never beaten at Lite heavy @ Oceanias.

As a pro beat an unbeaten Letoa then beat him again later for a title
Beat Joel Casey at his peak defending his WBO and winning Casey WBF title (Casey beat Tim Bell 1month later)
Fought out of his weight numerous times including last year beating Mosese Sorovi the knock out king.
Has been fighting with a c6 disc buldge in neck for over 2years which requires surgery I am told he will be getting the much needed surgery a week after the McKinnon fight.

Berridge is a good fighter but he never won an amateur title and to date still aint won a pro title

N2 Shape wrote:It was a good fight, tactical for the first few rounds then the boys started to open up abit in the closing rounds. Im a kiwi, and like the rest of the kiwis I know wanted Berridge to win. However I had no problems with the scorecard of 97-95, however 97-93 and 99-93 were to wide IMO. 97-95 was about right. Berridge had Balkes respect with his power, and he proved awkward and cagey but Caparello was just a bit more polished in his performance.

A rematch would be a good option for both perhaps over 12 with something meaningful on the line. Certainly Rob's stocks havent fallen after this performance, if anything hes cemented himself as one of the Top Light-Heavyweights in the Region.

Mate, 97-95 is unacceptable that is 2 10-10 rounds which any good judge shouldn't give. 96-94 or 97-93 would be about right. It sounds one sided when you hear 97-93 but in reality when it comes down to a few punches in some rounds that is the way it will be. Even rounds shouldn't be accepted, I'm yet to give one and see it as lazy to give one.

Hounddawg wrote:

Brute wrote:Pownceby has his sixth 12 rounder coming up. He holds a WBO regional title. What has Berridge got? Last night was his
first ten rounder.

Powencby hasn't the ability of Berridge, plain and simple, Powencby's best win is against Casey, Powencby has been managed better than Berridge, but Berridge is a very, very good fighter and deserves the number 1 ranking in New Zealand and i would rank him at 2 in this region. I had it 6-3-1 to Caperello, and Caperello had Berridge hurt a couple of times in the fight, so i would like to see a rematch as well. Great fight.

Pownceby hasn't the ability of Berridge?? and this was based on?
Its quite a big call to make such a statement when if these two names were going to be strung together in a sentence "__?___ hasn't the ability of ___?___" it really should read Berridge hasn't the ability of Pownceby.
Im not about to bring the Butcher down or attempt to in any way but rather state the obvious...
both men come from an amateur background, correct me if Im wrong but the Butcher couldn't even muster up a win against Isaac Peach let alone win a numerous NZ titles, four Oceania Gold medals and represent NZ at the 2004 Olympics. That in its own right should be enough to end the debate.
But even now in the professional ranks Robbie now has a loss against his name in 17 fight, meanwhile Pownceby at 20 fights is undefeated not to mention having won several titles - NZ Cruiserweight, WBO Asia Pacific Light Heavyweight, WBF World Light Heavyweight.

Mate, thanks for the break down, appreciated, however i was quite aware of his back ground, i'm just stating that Berridge has earn't his right as the best NZ Lt Heavy, Powencby's only recognized win is against Casey, and beating up a sub par middleweight in McKinnon is another example of this guys hand picked, built up record.

For the record no true fan gives a shitt how many kellogs titles he has won, and how many times he's beaten up on 40 plus year olds to get his 19-0 record.

Ability vs ability, Berridge hands down, the kid has earn't his ranking, Powencby hasn't done anything as a pro and beaten anyone of note, and Australia is full of Oceania champions in every division and shouldn't really be the greatest achievment of a mans career after 10 years, if he wants recognition bring his ass to Australia, Berridge has been here 3 times and represented Kiwi boxing quite well.

Stating that Berridge has no titles and Powencby has, shows everything i need to know about you in 1 post.

Slab wrote:Caparello v powencby , July 13 Melbourne pavilions???? Said with upmost respect , can you match it ?

See you have to be a fan of Caperello's, his team want the best fight all the time, this is what a real fighter is all about.

Will the bulging disc prevent Powencby from ever fighting a man in his prime above club fighter level.

I'd like to see Caperello fight outside of Melbourne. Is he willing?

Why has the result been recorded as a SD win for Caperello? It was announced as a UD win for Caperello, and no argument could be made for any other result.

Hounddawg wrote:Why has the result been recorded as a SD win for Caperello? It was announced as a UD win for Caperello, and no argument could be made for any other result.

It is UD on the result page. It is UD on his record. What were you looking at?

Hounddawg wrote:Mate, thanks for the break down, appreciated, however i was quite aware of his back ground, i'm just stating that Berridge has earn't his right as the best NZ Lt Heavy, Powencby's only recognized win is against Casey, and beating up a sub par middleweight in McKinnon is another example of this guys hand picked, built up record.

For the record no true fan gives a shitt how many kellogs titles he has won, and how many times he's beaten up on 40 plus year olds to get his 19-0 record.

Ability vs ability, Berridge hands down, the kid has earn't his ranking, Powencby hasn't done anything as a pro and beaten anyone of note, and Australia is full of Oceania champions in every division and shouldn't really be the greatest achievment of a mans career after 10 years, if he wants recognition bring his ass to Australia, Berridge has been here 3 times and represented Kiwi boxing quite well.

Stating that Berridge has no titles and Powencby has, shows everything i need to know about you in 1 post.

I still disagree, he has no titles other other then the one that you have made for him and keep on your shrine at home and with a loss against his name as well... what more can be said. I think Robbie has potential but at this stage his is still a one dimensional fighter its a shame about the loss I think that they need to go back to the drawing board and be more strategic.
If you have a look at Daniel you will see in his last fights he has and average weight of 80.6kg which is hardly supper middle. Yeah Pownceby's average age of the last few fights is 40 but he is also 37 making that only a three year age difference, as for Robbie average age of his last few fight is 32 making is a 5 year age difference. Not as though this is of great deal but seen as you mentioned it... lol

I think Caparello v powencby will be a good fight

Mate, i thought i made it pretty clear before, no one really cares who the WBD asia pacific champion is, nor would anyone after they heard it consider it to be anything worth more than a runner up prize to the true champion of that division......in short, titles that Powencby have hold no significant or historical relevance.
Berridge, although title less has more respect on these shores than the man who's been entering fights knowing the result and collecting Kellogs titles. Theres a thread in the Aus forum at the moment that should give you an insight as to how people feel about bogus titles and organisations.

I'm glad you disagree, Powencby needs a meaningful fight in his career, as of now, he'll be best remembered for beating Casey, and Casey is a tough SOB and i love watching him fight, but thats not going get you remembered.

The thing is Broadhurst and Foley will pick themselves up and move on, but people will remember the Butcher for derailing 2 of Australia's promising young boxers on TV. He's earn't his number 1 ranking without winning a title and it happens all over the world.

I would love to see Powencby vs Caperello, i would really hope that Powencby would accept the fight.

Brute wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:Why has the result been recorded as a SD win for Caperello? It was announced as a UD win for Caperello, and no argument could be made for any other result.

It is UD on the result page. It is UD on his record. What were you looking at?

It was fixed after i posted dear sir.

Hounddawg wrote:Mate, thanks for the break down, appreciated, however i was quite aware of his back ground, i'm just stating that Berridge has earn't his right as the best NZ Lt Heavy, Powencby's only recognized win is against Casey, and beating up a sub par middleweight in McKinnon is another example of this guys hand picked, built up record.

For the record no true fan gives a shitt how many kellogs titles he has won, and how many times he's beaten up on 40 plus year olds to get his 19-0 record.

Ability vs ability, Berridge hands down, the kid has earn't his ranking, Powencby hasn't done anything as a pro and beaten anyone of note, and Australia is full of Oceania champions in every division and shouldn't really be the greatest achievment of a mans career after 10 years, if he wants recognition bring his ass to Australia, Berridge has been here 3 times and represented Kiwi boxing quite well.

Stating that Berridge has no titles and Powencby has, shows everything i need to know about you in 1 post.

mate how come if someone doesnt agree with you, you have to get personal?

adamheight wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:
Stating that Berridge has no titles and Powencby has, shows everything i need to know about you in 1 post.

mate how come if someone doesnt agree with you, you have to get personal?

Let's just be nice and say he aint the full quid.

In all due respect Berridge has fought the tougher opposition than Soul, yes Casey is a decent fighter but he's not in the same class as Caparello or Broadhurst or even Foley in my opinion. Soul hasnt fought anyone, Letoa isnt bad but once again not in the class of the preivously menitoned guys. Berridge is easily NZ's #1 Light-Heavyweight, Soul and McKinnon go to battle June 1st Id like to see the winner face Berridge so then there will be no arguement over who our #1 is!

Soul wont and cant fight you slab. End of story.

N2 Shape wrote:In all due respect Berridge has fought the tougher opposition than Soul, yes Casey is a decent fighter but he's not in the same class as Caparello or Broadhurst or even Foley in my opinion. Soul hasnt fought anyone, Letoa isnt bad but once again not in the class of the preivously menitoned guys. Berridge is easily NZ's #1 Light-Heavyweight, Soul and McKinnon go to battle June 1st Id like to see the winner face Berridge so then there will be no arguement over who our #1 is!

Soul wont and cant fight you slab. End of story.

Apparantly Berridge is fighting Mckinnon after Pownceby whatever the outcome of the Pownceby/Mckinnon fight. Agreed it would be better if he fought the victor whoever it may be. I bought an Illicit butcher Berridge t-shirt today. . When are you getting your CTP t-shirts in circulation?

TrainInsane wrote:

Brute wrote:I have no doubt there will be a rematch. It was a well matched fight.

A rematch would be a good result for fans. But it will largely depend on where Caparello's people see him heading.

Hopefully, it ain't PABA shite road = WBA rating = PABA's marketing tool, which would only restrict his local activity/progress...and that's where he's atm.

adamheight wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:Mate, thanks for the break down, appreciated, however i was quite aware of his back ground, i'm just stating that Berridge has earn't his right as the best NZ Lt Heavy, Powencby's only recognized win is against Casey, and beating up a sub par middleweight in McKinnon is another example of this guys hand picked, built up record.

For the record no true fan gives a shitt how many kellogs titles he has won, and how many times he's beaten up on 40 plus year olds to get his 19-0 record.

Ability vs ability, Berridge hands down, the kid has earn't his ranking, Powencby hasn't done anything as a pro and beaten anyone of note, and Australia is full of Oceania champions in every division and shouldn't really be the greatest achievment of a mans career after 10 years, if he wants recognition bring his ass to Australia, Berridge has been here 3 times and represented Kiwi boxing quite well.

Stating that Berridge has no titles and Powencby has, shows everything i need to know about you in 1 post.

mate how come if someone doesnt agree with you, you have to get personal?

You still upset about the over weight remark. Let it go

Giancarlo wrote:

adamheight wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:
Stating that Berridge has no titles and Powencby has, shows everything i need to know about you in 1 post.

mate how come if someone doesnt agree with you, you have to get personal?

Let's just be nice and say he aint the full quid.

I feel silly for this, but why do you try and score points off me? Just another upset pom with a toxic personality, who can give it but can't take it, go to sleep ol man. I still haven't the feintess who you are either......your really creepy

Hounddawg wrote:

Giancarlo wrote:

adamheight wrote: mate how come if someone doesnt agree with you, you have to get personal?

Let's just be nice and say he aint the full quid.

I feel silly for this, but why do you try and score points off me? Just another upset pom with a toxic personality, who can give it but can't take it, go to sleep ol man. I still haven't the feintess who you are either......your really creepy

I guess I just don't like your drunken racist posts.

Plus the fact that you are only semi-literate annoys me too.

Giancarlo wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:

Giancarlo wrote: Let's just be nice and say he aint the full quid.

I feel silly for this, but why do you try and score points off me? Just another upset pom with a toxic personality, who can give it but can't take it, go to sleep ol man. I still haven't the feintess who you are either......your really creepy

I guess I just don't like your drunken racist posts.

Plus the fact that you are only semi-literate annoys me too.

Always with the drunken posts( Ever thought it might be cocaine, or crack) i barely drink nowadays . Now i'm racist , look mate you cracked on to me ol man, i rejected you, get over it, i'm not gay, you are..............................deal!

Semi - Literate, look if you only knew mate! That's it! i've feed the fuckwit of the site for the year, i think i'm the first to reply to you this year.

Que your alter ego Adam Height or Yid 14 your English brothers from another mother, or the same person if you will DD

How's mum?

Agreed there are a few fvckwits on the aussie board. And you are semi-literate (at best) - read your post moron.

yid14 wrote:Agreed there are a few fvckwits on the aussie board. And you are semi-literate (at best) - read your post moron.

Care to point it out?

Haven't we already established in the past, that you of all people shouldn't be pointing fingers in any direction, my dyslexic friend!

No seriously, point out my flaws, i have no problem with it. I'll await.