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magnus wrote:

mcato wrote:

magnus wrote: Pryce was coming off decent wins against Mendy and Danny Butler, so was just as deserving (if not more) than the names mentioned. More to the point, why are so many fights for the Commonwealth belt made that simply match up British fighters? Is there even any point to the belt anymore, if countrys like Canada and Australia don't often get a look in?

Yes he might of beet those 2 fighter, however he is a light middleweight and really did look like one yesterday. I just want to see some of those big fight. look at the the midd:http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=U ... &SUBMIT=Go
you mean to tell me one of these guys cant fight each other they have to get fighters from other weight div

He is better suited to fighting at light middle (or even welter) but he chooses in which division to compete, and scored two decent wins over middles. I think he was a better shout than any of the other names you mentioned, at this moment in time. It was a voluntary (although is there any other type of Commonwealth title defence?), and the plan would have been to get Saunders in with a decent name, with experience, who was fairly unlikely to cause an upset.

You see that is always the plan and that is the problem with boxing. In MMA you get to see the big fights in boxing you just have to hope it happens. Too many belts too many federations and versions so everyone can slip each other to get to the top

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You see that is always the plan and that is the problem with boxing. In MMA you get to see the big fights in boxing you just have to hope it happens. Too many belts too many federations and versions so everyone can slip each other to get to the top[/quote]

Mate, I don't disagree with you in general. Yet in this instance I don't think that Blackwell, Conception, Cameron etc would provide much more of a test for Saunders than Bradley Pryce. Pryce never comes to lose, some nights he is better than others, but he gives it a go and has been in far deeper than the others. Saunders is still learning, and needs fights like Fridays to develop.

Too many belts/federations - absolutely. Too many good fights not being made - I agree. Just in this instance I think the fight made was perfectly fine.

magnus wrote:quote]
You see that is always the plan and that is the problem with boxing. In MMA you get to see the big fights in boxing you just have to hope it happens. Too many belts too many federations and versions so everyone can slip each other to get to the top

Mate, I don't disagree with you in general. Yet in this instance I don't think that Blackwell, Conception, Cameron etc would provide much more of a test for Saunders than Bradley Pryce. Pryce never comes to lose, some nights he is better than others, but he gives it a go and has been in far deeper than the others. Saunders is still learning, and needs fights like Fridays to develop.

Too many belts/federations - absolutely. Too many good fights not being made - I agree. Just in this instance I think the fight made was perfectly fine.[/quote]

Ryan Tank Aston will beat Billie Joe Saunders, he has the style to do it, Conception is retired now, but too chinny, Blackwell is not good enough and Cameron is not done anything yet to warrant his inclusion, Ryder is not quite there yet. Saunders is not yet good enough for the big boys, Barker Macklin and Murray, so will compete at national for a while, as he is still young.

safeerah wrote:

magnus wrote:quote]
You see that is always the plan and that is the problem with boxing. In MMA you get to see the big fights in boxing you just have to hope it happens. Too many belts too many federations and versions so everyone can slip each other to get to the top

Mate, I don't disagree with you in general. Yet in this instance I don't think that Blackwell, Conception, Cameron etc would provide much more of a test for Saunders than Bradley Pryce. Pryce never comes to lose, some nights he is better than others, but he gives it a go and has been in far deeper than the others. Saunders is still learning, and needs fights like Fridays to develop.

Too many belts/federations - absolutely. Too many good fights not being made - I agree. Just in this instance I think the fight made was perfectly fine.

Ryan Tank Aston will beat Billie Joe Saunders, he has the style to do it, Conception is retired now, but too chinny, Blackwell is not good enough and Cameron is not done anything yet to warrant his inclusion, Ryder is not quite there yet. Saunders is not yet good enough for the big boys, Barker Macklin and Murray, so will compete at national for a while, as he is still young.[/quote]

Agree with most of that, although I haven't seen much of Aston yet. Plenty of people seem to rate him though..

magnus wrote:

safeerah wrote:

magnus wrote:quote]
You see that is always the plan and that is the problem with boxing. In MMA you get to see the big fights in boxing you just have to hope it happens. Too many belts too many federations and versions so everyone can slip each other to get to the top

Mate, I don't disagree with you in general. Yet in this instance I don't think that Blackwell, Conception, Cameron etc would provide much more of a test for Saunders than Bradley Pryce. Pryce never comes to lose, some nights he is better than others, but he gives it a go and has been in far deeper than the others. Saunders is still learning, and needs fights like Fridays to develop.

Too many belts/federations - absolutely. Too many good fights not being made - I agree. Just in this instance I think the fight made was perfectly fine.

Ryan Tank Aston will beat Billie Joe Saunders, he has the style to do it, Conception is retired now, but too chinny, Blackwell is not good enough and Cameron is not done anything yet to warrant his inclusion, Ryder is not quite there yet. Saunders is not yet good enough for the big boys, Barker Macklin and Murray, so will compete at national for a while, as he is still young.

Agree with most of that, although I haven't seen much of Aston yet. Plenty of people seem to rate him though..[/quote]
Yep another middleweight prospect! but some of these middleweights need to start fighting each other

mcato wrote:

magnus wrote:

safeerah wrote: Mate, I don't disagree with you in general. Yet in this instance I don't think that Blackwell, Conception, Cameron etc would provide much more of a test for Saunders than Bradley Pryce. Pryce never comes to lose, some nights he is better than others, but he gives it a go and has been in far deeper than the others. Saunders is still learning, and needs fights like Fridays to develop.

Too many belts/federations - absolutely. Too many good fights not being made - I agree. Just in this instance I think the fight made was perfectly fine.

Ryan Tank Aston will beat Billie Joe Saunders, he has the style to do it, Conception is retired now, but too chinny, Blackwell is not good enough and Cameron is not done anything yet to warrant his inclusion, Ryder is not quite there yet. Saunders is not yet good enough for the big boys, Barker Macklin and Murray, so will compete at national for a while, as he is still young.

Agree with most of that, although I haven't seen much of Aston yet. Plenty of people seem to rate him though..

Yep another middleweight prospect! but some of these middleweights need to start fighting each other[/quote]Yes, what is happening with the British ? The English was fought for by 2 much lesser fighters, seems to me that the big promoters of these fighters are playing a game at present, whilst watching each other, we don't want to see too many fighters,past there sell by date fighting the young stars, lets see who is the best of the new talent, then push them on.

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote:

magnus wrote: Ryan Tank Aston will beat Billie Joe Saunders, he has the style to do it, Conception is retired now, but too chinny, Blackwell is not good enough and Cameron is not done anything yet to warrant his inclusion, Ryder is not quite there yet. Saunders is not yet good enough for the big boys, Barker Macklin and Murray, so will compete at national for a while, as he is still young.

Agree with most of that, although I haven't seen much of Aston yet. Plenty of people seem to rate him though..

Yep another middleweight prospect! but some of these middleweights need to start fighting each other

Yes, what is happening with the British ? The English was fought for by 2 much lesser fighters, seems to me that the big promoters of these fighters are playing a game at present, whilst watching each other, we don't want to see too many fighters,past there sell by date fighting the young stars, lets see who is the best of the new talent, then push them on.[/quote]
I agree with you for once Saf.....Whose been advising you? you sound like a new man! lol

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote: Agree with most of that, although I haven't seen much of Aston yet. Plenty of people seem to rate him though..

Yep another middleweight prospect! but some of these middleweights need to start fighting each other

Yes, what is happening with the British ? The English was fought for by 2 much lesser fighters, seems to me that the big promoters of these fighters are playing a game at present, whilst watching each other, we don't want to see too many fighters,past there sell by date fighting the young stars, lets see who is the best of the new talent, then push them on.

I agree with you for once Saf.....Whose been advising you? you sound like a new man! lol[/quote]

I know my industry, thats all, when have I ever been wrong ?

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote: Yep another middleweight prospect! but some of these middleweights need to start fighting each other

Yes, what is happening with the British ? The English was fought for by 2 much lesser fighters, seems to me that the big promoters of these fighters are playing a game at present, whilst watching each other, we don't want to see too many fighters,past there sell by date fighting the young stars, lets see who is the best of the new talent, then push them on.

I agree with you for once Saf.....Whose been advising you? you sound like a new man! lol

I know my industry, thats all, when have I ever been wrong ?[/quote]
It's true your always perfect

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote:Yes, what is happening with the British ? The English was fought for by 2 much lesser fighters, seems to me that the big promoters of these fighters are playing a game at present, whilst watching each other, we don't want to see too many fighters,past there sell by date fighting the young stars, lets see who is the best of the new talent, then push them on.

I agree with you for once Saf.....Whose been advising you? you sound like a new man! lol

I know my industry, thats all, when have I ever been wrong ?

It's true your always perfect[/quote]Don't know about perfect, we are all human, we all make mistakes. Was you in the corner for Ochieng, Mcato ?

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote: I agree with you for once Saf.....Whose been advising you? you sound like a new man! lol

I know my industry, thats all, when have I ever been wrong ?

It's true your always perfect

Don't know about perfect, we are all human, we all make mistakes. Was you in the corner for Ochieng, Mcato ?[/quote]
Yes i was, well i say in the corner but actually i was apart of the ringwalk ontourage and then sat at ringside near the corner and came in ring at the end.

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote: I know my industry, thats all, when have I ever been wrong ?

It's true your always perfect

Don't know about perfect, we are all human, we all make mistakes. Was you in the corner for Ochieng, Mcato ?

Yes i was, well i say in the corner but actually i was apart of the ringwalk ontourage and then sat at ringside near the corner and came in ring at the end.[/quote]Do you have seconds license ?

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote: I know my industry, thats all, when have I ever been wrong ?

It's true your always perfect

Don't know about perfect, we are all human, we all make mistakes. Was you in the corner for Ochieng, Mcato ?

Yes i was, well i say in the corner but actually i was apart of the ringwalk ontourage and then sat at ringside near the corner and came in ring at the end.[/quote]Do you have seconds license ?[/quote]
sorry i dont, was you gonna offer me a job? Sorry im in the Eagles camp!

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote: I know my industry, thats all, when have I ever been wrong ?

It's true your always perfect

Don't know about perfect, we are all human, we all make mistakes. Was you in the corner for Ochieng, Mcato ?

Yes i was, well i say in the corner but actually i was apart of the ringwalk ontourage and then sat at ringside near the corner and came in ring at the end.[/quote]Do you have seconds license ?[/quote]
sorry i dont, was you gonna offer me a job? Sorry im in the Eagles camp![/quote]

You must be joking, you would get no work done for us, because you spend too much time posting on Ochieng lol.

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote: I know my industry, thats all, when have I ever been wrong ?

It's true your always perfect

Don't know about perfect, we are all human, we all make mistakes. Was you in the corner for Ochieng, Mcato ?

Yes i was, well i say in the corner but actually i was apart of the ringwalk ontourage and then sat at ringside near the corner and came in ring at the end.[/quote]Do you have seconds license ?[/quote]
sorry i dont, was you gonna offer me a job? Sorry im in the Eagles camp![/quote]

You must be joking, you would get no work done for us, because you spend too much time posting on Ochieng lol.[/quote]
lol..I wanna know how you get work done?...was you at the Froch fight?

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote: I know my industry, thats all, when have I ever been wrong ?

It's true your always perfect

Don't know about perfect, we are all human, we all make mistakes. Was you in the corner for Ochieng, Mcato ?

Yes i was, well i say in the corner but actually i was apart of the ringwalk ontourage and then sat at ringside near the corner and came in ring at the end.[/quote]Do you have seconds license ?[/quote]
sorry i dont, was you gonna offer me a job? Sorry im in the Eagles camp![/quote]

You must be joking, you would get no work done for us, because you spend too much time posting on Ochieng lol.[/quote]
lol..I wanna know how you get work done?...was you at the Froch fight?[/quote]No, a little birdy told me. I get work done fine, both for my business and in the gym.

How is training going for Nasser

mcato wrote:How is training going for Nasser

Training has gone great, been sparring 3 fresh sparring partners, one after the other, also sparred an 85 Kilo beast and done lots of strength and power training to combat Dells rosa's strength, Nasser is a lot more muscular for this fight and still retaining the speed, tomorrow he spars Ryan Rhodes in preparation for Rhodes european title challenge, we have done hours of sparring and defense sparring, he also does sprints up a 19 floor block of flats, between 7 and 10 times, followed by 100 & 50 metre sprints on the track for stamina, he also does swimming sprints 3 times a week,along with 7 mile runs every day, circuits split between Speed and power, along with the usual bag work, pad work and skipping, we also use bag and Bar technique on certain days. Yes Nasser is ready for this fight and he needs to be, Della Rosa is the current WBC International champion and rated 11th in the WBC world rankings, his only defeat was a split decision loss to Zbik for the world title in Germany, whilst carrying a serious knee injury.

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote:How is training going for Nasser

Training has gone great, been sparring 3 fresh sparring partners, one after the other, also sparred an 85 Kilo beast and done lots of strength and power training to combat Dells rosa's strength, Nasser is a lot more muscular for this fight and still retaining the speed, tomorrow he spars Ryan Rhodes in preparation for Rhodes european title challenge, we have done hours of sparring and defense sparring, he also does sprints up a 19 floor block of flats, between 7 and 10 times, followed by 100 & 50 metre sprints on the track for stamina, he also does swimming sprints 3 times a week,along with 7 mile runs every day, circuits split between Speed and power, along with the usual bag work, pad work and skipping, we also use bag and Bar technique on certain days. Yes Nasser is ready for this fight and he needs to be, Della Rosa is the current WBC International champion and rated 11th in the WBC world rankings, his only defeat was a split decision loss to Zbik for the world title in Germany, whilst carrying a serious knee injury.

OK Saf why are you giving away all your training techniques? It sounds like Nasser will be ready to go. I saw Della Rosa on you tube and he looked very strong but very slow and clumsey. I think a Amir Khan approach, hit and move should do it!

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote:How is training going for Nasser

Training has gone great, been sparring 3 fresh sparring partners, one after the other, also sparred an 85 Kilo beast and done lots of strength and power training to combat Dells rosa's strength, Nasser is a lot more muscular for this fight and still retaining the speed, tomorrow he spars Ryan Rhodes in preparation for Rhodes european title challenge, we have done hours of sparring and defense sparring, he also does sprints up a 19 floor block of flats, between 7 and 10 times, followed by 100 & 50 metre sprints on the track for stamina, he also does swimming sprints 3 times a week,along with 7 mile runs every day, circuits split between Speed and power, along with the usual bag work, pad work and skipping, we also use bag and Bar technique on certain days. Yes Nasser is ready for this fight and he needs to be, Della Rosa is the current WBC International champion and rated 11th in the WBC world rankings, his only defeat was a split decision loss to Zbik for the world title in Germany, whilst carrying a serious knee injury.

OK Saf why are you giving away all your training techniques? It sounds like Nasser will be ready to go. I saw Della Rosa on you tube and he looked very strong but very slow and clumsey. I think a Amir Khan approach, hit and move should do it!

I know the fights you looked at, in them fights he was fighting at middleweight which slowed him down a bit, he is quick when he throws his hooks though, mainly to the body, he is also very well conditioned, your right speed is the key, hit and move, but we don't want to be on the back foot most of the time, Nas will need to take the centre and put Della Rosa on the back foot, with Italian officials, the key is Nasser's jab.

safeerah wrote:

mcato wrote:

safeerah wrote:Training has gone great, been sparring 3 fresh sparring partners, one after the other, also sparred an 85 Kilo beast and done lots of strength and power training to combat Dells rosa's strength, Nasser is a lot more muscular for this fight and still retaining the speed, tomorrow he spars Ryan Rhodes in preparation for Rhodes european title challenge, we have done hours of sparring and defense sparring, he also does sprints up a 19 floor block of flats, between 7 and 10 times, followed by 100 & 50 metre sprints on the track for stamina, he also does swimming sprints 3 times a week,along with 7 mile runs every day, circuits split between Speed and power, along with the usual bag work, pad work and skipping, we also use bag and Bar technique on certain days. Yes Nasser is ready for this fight and he needs to be, Della Rosa is the current WBC International champion and rated 11th in the WBC world rankings, his only defeat was a split decision loss to Zbik for the world title in Germany, whilst carrying a serious knee injury.

OK Saf why are you giving away all your training techniques? It sounds like Nasser will be ready to go. I saw Della Rosa on you tube and he looked very strong but very slow and clumsey. I think a Amir Khan approach, hit and move should do it!

I know the fights you looked at, in them fights he was fighting at middleweight which slowed him down a bit, he is quick when he throws his hooks though, mainly to the body, he is also very well conditioned, your right speed is the key, hit and move, but we don't want to be on the back foot most of the time, Nas will need to take the centre and put Della Rosa on the back foot, with Italian officials, the key is Nasser's jab.

Yep he might need a knockout

Talkischeap wrote:Wish Nasser well for me Naj get out there & rip it up.

Thanks John, Nas is in great shape and looking to put on a great performance and bring the title back home.

Talkischeap wrote:

Hey Saf stop hijacking my threads this is abouck Ochieng not Nas....LOL