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Re: Pacman Bradley spoiler

Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 07:27
by desperados
Bradley was straight up running for the last 3rd of the fight. This is a come forward pressure fighter who rarely takes a backwards step.

He was rocked alot in the mid rounds, watching that back will hurt bradleys pride because he knows in the late rounds he had given up on going forward and trading.

The sad thing is too many fans these days think what bradley done late constitutes winning a round. I gave him the tenth because he did land effective counters and pac took the round off, but in 11 and 12 he simply ran and kept popping out a half assed jab to try and keep pac off him. He doesnt win the round on clean punching, generalship or agression.

Hbo and dan rafeal scored it spot on, bradley shaded the tenth. 119-109 pacquiao.
Punch stats also support such a wide score with pac landing 100 more. Bradley also looked like he would be stopped in the mid rounds.

Re: Pacman Bradley spoiler

Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 07:37
by Quixall
desperados wrote:Bradley was straight up running for the last 3rd of the fight. This is a come forward pressure fighter who rarely takes a backwards step.

He was rocked alot in the mid rounds, watching that back will hurt bradleys pride because he knows in the late rounds he had given up on going forward and trading.

The sad thing is too many fans these days think what bradley done late constitutes winning a round. I gave him the tenth because he did land effective counters and pac took the round off, but in 11 and 12 he simply ran and kept popping out a half assed jab to try and keep pac off him. He doesnt win the round on clean punching, generalship or agression.

Hbo and dan rafeal scored it spot on, bradley shaded the tenth. 119-109 pacquiao.
Punch stats also support such a wide score with pac landing 100 more. Bradley also looked like he would be stopped in the mid rounds.
Spot on,

Bradley knows it, Pacquaio knows it and the crowd definately know it !!

Look :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxR7KJQmbp4

Re: Pacman Bradley spoiler

Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 07:48
by MightyWarrior
Bizzare decision, because no one outside the Bradley camp, including the judges who fucked it up, wanted Pac Man to lose. Bradley looked shell shocked during the fight, hung in there and was just glad to see the fight out. Looked a beaten man, with a deflated corner too.

But Manny blew it, he could have taken over after rounds 3 and 4, but coasted, allowing Bradley to steal rounds from the hapless judges, where he did not very much at all.
Pac Man is just so used to getting close decisions, he thought he could phone it in and get another points win.

Re: Pacman Bradley spoiler

Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 10:33
by palooka
Quixall wrote:
desperados wrote:Bradley was straight up running for the last 3rd of the fight. This is a come forward pressure fighter who rarely takes a backwards step.

He was rocked alot in the mid rounds, watching that back will hurt bradleys pride because he knows in the late rounds he had given up on going forward and trading.

The sad thing is too many fans these days think what bradley done late constitutes winning a round. I gave him the tenth because he did land effective counters and pac took the round off, but in 11 and 12 he simply ran and kept popping out a half assed jab to try and keep pac off him. He doesnt win the round on clean punching, generalship or agression.

Hbo and dan rafeal scored it spot on, bradley shaded the tenth. 119-109 pacquiao.
Punch stats also support such a wide score with pac landing 100 more. Bradley also looked like he would be stopped in the mid rounds.
Spot on,

Bradley knows it, Pacquaio knows it and the crowd definately know it !!
Look :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxR7KJQmbp4
Marquez, Pacquiao and the crowd knew it last time too!

Re: Pacman Bradley spoiler

Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 10:51
by Kilburn
jessi wrote:
Kilburn wrote:Can't say I'm in the least but bothered, Mayweather v Pac as a match up had already lost it's mystique. Even more so now after their most recent performances.

It certainly sounds like Pacquiao needs to hang them up.
But we all know pacman won convincingly so why should he hang up his gloves ?
You guys will know better than me, as I didn't bother with the fight. But the rbr thread on the current scene was full of comments about Pacman looking like an aged fighter.

If he sticks around who would he fight? The Mayweather match is 2-3 years too late to be called a super fight IMO, while Martinez is too big. I don't see what other opponents out there could motivate Pacquiao to look truly impressive again. I can only think of Alvarez but surely the Mexican's real tests will end up being at middleweight.

Re: Pacman Bradley spoiler

Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 11:25
by Finn
Kilburn wrote:
jessi wrote:
Kilburn wrote:Can't say I'm in the least but bothered, Mayweather v Pac as a match up had already lost it's mystique. Even more so now after their most recent performances.

It certainly sounds like Pacquiao needs to hang them up.
But we all know pacman won convincingly so why should he hang up his gloves ?
You guys will know better than me, as I didn't bother with the fight. But the rbr thread on the current scene was full of comments about Pacman looking like an aged fighter.

If he sticks around who would he fight? The Mayweather match is 2-3 years too late to be called a super fight IMO, while Martinez is too big. I don't see what other opponents out there could motivate Pacquiao to look truly impressive again. I can only think of Alvarez but surely the Mexican's real tests will end up being at middleweight.
he did seem a bit flat footed the movement and angles certainly werent the same as a couple of years ago.

Re: Pacman Bradley spoiler

Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 12:45
by Quixall
palooka wrote:
Quixall wrote:
desperados wrote:Bradley was straight up running for the last 3rd of the fight. This is a come forward pressure fighter who rarely takes a backwards step.

He was rocked alot in the mid rounds, watching that back will hurt bradleys pride because he knows in the late rounds he had given up on going forward and trading.

The sad thing is too many fans these days think what bradley done late constitutes winning a round. I gave him the tenth because he did land effective counters and pac took the round off, but in 11 and 12 he simply ran and kept popping out a half assed jab to try and keep pac off him. He doesnt win the round on clean punching, generalship or agression.

Hbo and dan rafeal scored it spot on, bradley shaded the tenth. 119-109 pacquiao.
Punch stats also support such a wide score with pac landing 100 more. Bradley also looked like he would be stopped in the mid rounds.
Spot on,

Bradley knows it, Pacquaio knows it and the crowd definately know it !!
Look :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxR7KJQmbp4
Marquez, Pacquiao and the crowd knew it last time too!
Of course they did and if you bother to actually read my initial post, i say that the Pacquaio - Marquez III fight was another bad day for boxing as Marquez was robbed of the decision. What is your point ?? I not a Pac fan, not by any stretch of the imagination and wanted both Marquez and Bradley to win !! We aren't on about the Pacqauio - Marquez fight and i actually agree with what you saying anyway on that issue :roll:

Re: Pacman Bradley spoiler

Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 12:48
by Quixall
Kilburn wrote:
jessi wrote:
Kilburn wrote:Can't say I'm in the least but bothered, Mayweather v Pac as a match up had already lost it's mystique. Even more so now after their most recent performances.

It certainly sounds like Pacquiao needs to hang them up.
But we all know pacman won convincingly so why should he hang up his gloves ?
You guys will know better than me, as I didn't bother with the fight. But the rbr thread on the current scene was full of comments about Pacman looking like an aged fighter.

If he sticks around who would he fight? The Mayweather match is 2-3 years too late to be called a super fight IMO, while Martinez is too big. I don't see what other opponents out there could motivate Pacquiao to look truly impressive again. I can only think of Alvarez but surely the Mexican's real tests will end up being at middleweight.
I agree, Pacquaio is a fighter on the wain, but that is a seperate issue to him being robbed of a decision win over Bradley. I think he is just in it for the money now and whilst ever his name commands 10+ million dollar paydays, he will keep fighting. The fights that will be out there for him are Mayweather, Khan, Bradley re-match and a possible Marquez IIII.