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ur r correct brute, weida hardly hit mark,but the whole fight looked silly ,pretty easy to make a worn out over the hill, unfit fighter miss,

caveman wrote:ur r correct brute, weida hardly hit mark,but the whole fight looked silly ,pretty easy to make a worn out over the hill, unfit fighter miss,

Unfortunately Weida has nothing else going for him. He is a boxer by profession with no other source of income. If you look at the rankings of US Heavyweights he is far from the worst of them. Mark can only fight men who are prepared to fight him. It is nice to have ideals but it is a matter of no fights, no money.

mark can only fight men who r prepared to fight him,r u sayin there is no one in oz or nz that will fight him ? seems to me mark only wants to fight blokes he is assured of winning at the moment

Is it really better in your opinion for Mark to be fighting guys that have had maybe 10 fights and no one else in the world has heard of if you are trying to land fights in the US. (Excluding of course the top 3)

Like it or not Alexander, Calloway & Weida are atleast known names in the US

Weida isn't known and Calloway and Alexander are currently known as punching bags, not meaningful names on a record.

caveman wrote:mark can only fight men who r prepared to fight him,r u sayin there is no one in oz or nz that will fight him ? seems to me mark only wants to fight blokes he is assured of winning at the moment

Perhaps you could suggest some to the promoters. Who do you have in mind? This part of the World is hardly awash with heavyweights. Poor old Colin Wilson is still in the top ten Australian heavyweights!

wats wrong with any of the top 3 or 4 in oz,

and for ur info, wilson is not in the top 10, not in the official ratings

caveman wrote:wats wrong with any of the top 3 or 4 in oz,

Name them.

[quote="Brute"][quote="caveman"]wats wrong with any of the top 3 or 4 in oz,[/quote]

Name them.[/quote]
very childish imo.

Brute wrote:

caveman wrote:ur r correct brute, weida hardly hit mark,but the whole fight looked silly ,pretty easy to make a worn out over the hill, unfit fighter miss,

Unfortunately Weida has nothing else going for him. He is a boxer by profession with no other source of income. If you look at the rankings of US Heavyweights he is far from the worst of them. Mark can only fight men who are prepared to fight him. It is nice to have ideals but it is a matter of no fights, no money.

Weida was retired for 5 years without relying on boxing income and owns a bar in Kewanee Illinois

Who rates Weida in the USA, and at what number do they rate him?

buster007 wrote:

Brute wrote:

caveman wrote:wats wrong with any of the top 3 or 4 in oz,

Name them.

very childish imo.

Well who are they? You and your mates want de Mori to fight one of Australia's top four heavyweights and there seems to be no agreement on who they are.
Try to make sense.

Well who are they? You and your mates want de Mori to fight one of Australia's top four heavyweights and there seems to be no agreement on who they are.
Try to make sense.[/quote][/quote]

You are pretty good at not answering questions yourself Brute

So who rate Weida in the USA, and at what number do they rate him?

Here's some references to Troy's 'no other source of income' you claimed for him too mate:

http://www.manta.com/g/mm4tkc3/troy-weida

http://www.petemyersrules.com/2011/11/t ... -this.html

getting defensive brute,is not gunna help ur fighter, most on here feel the same, mark needs to step up his quality of opponents,he is an aussie and we wish him well but fighting blokes like weida when there is better fighters here in oz and nz makes us (me) think he is doin a mundane

My niece worked at a disabled children's camp in upper New York State for a few weeks after finishing school. On Saturday nights the only place to go was the local pub.

Her description of an American pub? "Take the smallest, dirtiest bar you ever went to in Sydney, cut the size by half and fill it with hillbillies." Owners of bars are often just somebody nominated by the real owners. You would never get rich running one.

Brute wrote:My niece worked at a disabled children's camp in upper New York State for a few weeks after finishing school. On Saturday nights the only place to go was the local pub.

Her description of an American pub? "Take the smallest, dirtiest bar you ever went to in Sydney, cut the size by half and fill it with hillbillies." Owners of bars are often just somebody nominated by the real owners. You would never get rich running one.

It's not 'no other source of income' either is it and it was enough to sustain Weida for 5 years of boxing retirement too

?

Or he was living off past earnings.

Brute wrote:

caveman wrote:ur r correct brute, weida hardly hit mark,but the whole fight looked silly ,pretty easy to make a worn out over the hill, unfit fighter miss,

Unfortunately Weida has nothing else going for him. He is a boxer by profession with no other source of income. If you look at the rankings of US Heavyweights he is far from the worst of them. Mark can only fight men who are prepared to fight him. It is nice to have ideals but it is a matter of no fights, no money.

Back to the question you seem to be avoiding mate:

You claim Weida is rated in the USA. So who actually rates Weida in the USA, and at what number do they rate him?

When did i say he was rated? I said there were a lot of active US fighters rated below him. The heavyweight division in the USA stops a lot of big men from being unemployed.

There are 414 active Americans ranked by "Boxres" with Weida at ranked 143. According to Boxrec that means there are 271 US Heavies that are worse than Weida.

Brute wrote:When did i say he was rated? I said there were a lot of active US fighters rated below him. The heavyweight division in the USA stops a lot of big men from being unemployed.

"If you look at the rankings of US Heavyweights he is far from the worst of them". <- your words.

So which or whose rankings are you referring to???

And what number in those rankings do they assign Weida???

143 according to Boxrec. I already said that.

Brute wrote:143 according to Boxrec. I already said that.

The same Boxrec that have him about 400th rated in the world

I read someone refer to de Mori as "ur fighter" just above. Now your defensiveness of his padded fight record is making more sense to me

grow up brute.

no need to be a goose ok.

if u want people to have a discussion about boxing then don't treat them like fools ffs.

TrainInsane wrote:

Brute wrote:143 according to Boxrec. I already said that.

The same Boxrec that have him about 400th rated in the world

I read someone refer to de Mori as "ur fighter" just above. Now your defensiveness of his padded fight record is making more sense to me

Yeah, I was talking about the state of boxing in the USA. the World is a lot bigger than the USA. You started this by trying to tell me how I should spend my money, now go buy your weed and f''k off.

buster007 wrote:grow up brute.

no need to be a goose ok.

if u want people to have a discussion about boxing then don't treat them like fools ffs.

Go bite your arse. You are a dill without any help from me.