Enzo juicing

[rhino222]

im with you on this one mckey, as a fighter/sportsman..you are aware of the implications and you are aware of the 'frowned upon' substances.

as someone said in an earlier thread....we dont all pull random berries from trees and eat them because they are berries....we make sure we know they are safe first!!

[Coco]

Even Lemsips have illegal amounts of Ephedrine in it.

so why have lemsip?? .... a hot glasss of pure lemon juice with some soluble paracetamol does the trick!!

What I am saying is that a seemingly harmless over the counter cold remedy is banned, so if you are getting tested you really need to be au fait with anything you are taking, it's tough, sportsmen aren't chemists and need good advice.
Obviously the penalties for taking lemsip should differ than for taking steriods etc

[Dan Dares]

Nandralone.
Found naturally in ckicken as my memory recalls.
I was being a bit facetious mate. I don't pretend to know anything about PED's etc.
However the Board need to be connsistant when dishing out (or ignoring) any sanctions against fighters.
Ignorance is no defence.

Cyanide is found in almonds - but you have to eat a f**k of a lot of them to poison yourself.

[tear up]

im with you on this one mckey, as a fighter/sportsman..you are aware of the implications and you are aware of the 'frowned upon' substances.

as someone said in an earlier thread....we dont all pull random berries from trees and eat them because they are berries....we make sure we know they are safe first!!

It's a load of bollocks mate they know what they takin Iv boxed since I was 12 you know what to take mate

[Camcas]

Even Lemsips have illegal amounts of Ephedrine in it.

That is not true

[Bennyblanco]

So if alot of these failed drug tests are getting blamed on banned substances in suppliments carnt the suppliment companies produce an range of legal 'athelete friendly' supliments. Where each boxer knows that if they take it they will be clear of any doping test???

[The Insider]

So if alot of these failed drug tests are getting blamed on banned substances in suppliments carnt the suppliment companies produce an range of legal 'athelete friendly' supliments. Where each boxer knows that if they take it they will be clear of any doping test???

See my earlier post.

Listening to Kerry Kays speak its apparent that the supplement market is totally unregulated. Even Kerrys own products which have been tested by independent organisations and been given a clean bill of health are not backed/recognised by UKAD. They refuse to give ANY supplement the green light for fear of what could be in them.

[Jeff Thomas]

I think there is a big difference between taking roids which everyone knows are illegal - or trying different stimulants. As long as their legal people are going to try and get a competitive edge any way they can.

I think steroids will turn out to be very prevalent if testing does begin properly.

[DavidPayne]

I agree. I hate to say it. But I fear enhancements are the shadow nobody wants to talk about.

[Jeff Thomas]

I don't think people are clear on what steroids do- there's this common misconception that they make you big and low on stamina - that's a load of shite endurance athletes have been known to use steroids.

The adaptions that take place are entirely dependent on your training, and the adaptions are very, very subtle. Can be unnoticeable really- but in sports where the difference between the fighters at top level is so small all it takes is a tiny bit more power, a tiny but more stamina. And that gives them the edge.

Also for when your coming back off a layoff - u take roids and you'll cut down the time it takes to get back in shape massively. Your adaptions take literally half the time and you can train with more intensity more often. Your muscle will also be more capable in every sense - stronger and more enduring.

Personally though- my opinion is this. Cheating might make you rich, and it might allow you to gain the plaudits of those who are naive but any victory you have whilst cheating is empty. It takes a weak man to cheat. I think anyone who is found cheating with little room for doubt in terms of medication etc should be banned for life - this is peoples lives that are being put at risk.

[Exoddus]

Scottish skier Alain Baxter lost his bronze medal he won at the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics for testing positive for methamphetamine. He bought a Vicks inhaler in the United States. He didn't realize that it had different ingredients to the UK version.

[tear up]

Don't. Are what any athlete says they know what there r takin and makin excuse s about it been in this and. Even in that it's full of shit

[tear up]

[quote="tear up"]Don't. Care what any athlete says they know what there r takin and makin excuse s about it been in this and that r full of shit

[Final round]

Tony Dodson failed his test after taking this apparently?

[Counter-puncher]

Scottish skier Alain Baxter lost his bronze medal he won at the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics for testing positive for methamphetamine. He bought a Vicks inhaler in the United States. He didn't realize that it had different ingredients to the UK version.

was it? i thought he got done for having marijuana in his system.....

[tear up]

Tony Dodson failed his test after taking this apparently?

Ha ha ha good un

[stocky balboa]

Tony Dodson failed his test after taking this apparently?

Ha ha ha good un

thats fucked up man! if that dude took a piss test the fckin cup would disintegrate

[rhino222]

John Thaxton got a 9 month ban for eating chicken.
Here we go again - the Board need to find some consistancy.

There must be more to the story than just eating chicken???

it was confirmed as foul play, thaxton did 6 months bird for that one.

[rhino222]

people are going on about how different the penalty should be if you take 'roids' compared to ephedrine.

but..it could be argued that ephedrine is more dangerous short term, it makes you lose weight easier, therefore you do not need to diet properly, and losing weight falsely and too quickly might make you more prone to a brain injury!!

its not just about the dangers to your opponent, its also about looking after yourself!!

[tear up]

If fighters need this shit to get there then they have cheated there dream load of bollocks to the load fornicate me Iv been battered from pillow to post to achieve my dream so bollocks to roid s they cheat s simple as that

[TheGoods]

The auld Easington Road Tornado didn't need anything other than blood, sweat and a good old dollop of leather shampoo for his opponents when he was doing the do's! Pure born athlete from the mean streets of Hartlepool...

[jonp]

Nandralone.
Found naturally in ckicken as my memory recalls.
I was being a bit facetious mate. I don't pretend to know anything about PED's etc.
However the Board need to be connsistant when dishing out (or ignoring) any sanctions against fighters.
Ignorance is no defence.

Found out yesterday the board have no hand in the ban handed out its the drug testing guys and the board can not lengthen or lesser these bans.They are handled and punishments handed out by the doping agency.

[Coco]

If Enzo Mac is banned he will def be on the Luxembourg bill

[J]

John Thaxton got a 9 month ban for eating chicken.
Here we go again - the Board need to find some consistancy.

There must be more to the story than just eating chicken???

it was confirmed as foul play, thaxton did 6 months bird for that one.

REPEAT IN PARROTT FASHION.

i got ya rhino

[TopGun]

No way Enzo can be on roids.