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Roco wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:All you can eat buffets.

Tony Tubbs.

Amateur burnout, cocaine and too many kids to feed.

Joe Calzaghe

Ice Skaters and pouting.

Robert McCracken

scallum wrote:

Jaywheel wrote:Paving the way for JMM.

Vernon Forrest

What is jmm

Jean-Marc Mormeck...














































...not.

The Insider wrote:

Roco wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:All you can eat buffets.

Tony Tubbs.

Amateur burnout, cocaine and too many kids to feed.

Joe Calzaghe

Ice Skaters and pouting.

Robert McCracken

Uninspired

Don Curry

Bad loser. Also, could be outboxed/hustled by fast-handed types.

Pernell Whitaker.

Michael Carbajal

a bit flat footed... but mainly bad hair

Kaosai Galaxy

boxbible wrote:

Michael Carbajal

a bit flat footed... but mainly bad hair

Kaosai Galaxy

Who can forget the Mohican-thing he sported vs the Korean, after wisely deciding that the mullet wasn't doing him any favours? No-one, that's who. In fact, thinking about it, he had a mullet with an undercut at one point, which is about three shit haircuts for the price of one. Win!

Ahem. Anyway...

Khaosai Galaxy's main problem was that he was (I believe, anyway) somewhat vulnerable to a nice boxer/mover type. & he didn't fight the competition that was available at the time that would've led to him being regarded universally as an ATG.

Also, he was sponsored by a chocolate bar.



Marco Antonio Barrera.

Datsue wrote:

boxbible wrote:

Michael Carbajal

a bit flat footed... but mainly bad hair

Kaosai Galaxy

Who can forget the Mohican-thing he sported vs the Korean, after wisely deciding that the mullet wasn't doing him any favours? No-one, that's who. In fact, thinking about it, he had a mullet with an undercut at one point, which is about three shit haircuts for the price of one. Win!

Ahem. Anyway...

Khaosai Galaxy's main problem was that he was (I believe, anyway) somewhat vulnerable to a nice boxer/mover type. & he didn't fight the competition that was available at the time that would've led to him being regarded universally as an ATG.

Also, he was sponsored by a chocolate bar.



Marco Antonio Barrera.

ooohhh. difficult one. not having a right hand to quite match his HOF-quality left? his other faults, he kinda grew/evolved out of them...

Larry Holmes

Counter-puncher wrote:
Larry Holmes

Around in the shittest era of heavyweight boxing.

Evander Holyfield.

BarryWashington wrote:
Michael Spinks

I agree about the last 8-10 years being the shittest of heavyweight boxing (certainly that I can remember). You've got a few stand-outs but no depth from 5-20 in the rankings. Alex Stewart wouldn't beat a Klit; neither would Moorer. But they'd be sitting at number three, kicking the arse of Povetkin & Arreola, for fun. Actually, scratch that, early Wlad gets done by Alex Stewart after decking him 123,451 times. Wlad gasses & is taken out in the sixth.

Er, anyway.

Michael Spinks' biggest fault was that he was not a heavyweight.

Sugar Ray Robinson.

BarryWashington wrote:

Datsue wrote:

BarryWashington wrote:
Michael Spinks

I agree about the last 8-10 years being the shittest of heavyweight boxing (certainly that I can remember). You've got a few stand-outs but no depth from 5-20 in the rankings. Alex Stewart wouldn't beat a Klit; neither would Moorer. But they'd be sitting at number three, kicking the arse of Povetkin & Arreola, for fun. Actually, scratch that, early Wlad gets done by Alex Stewart after decking him 123,451 times. Wlad gasses & is taken out in the sixth.

Er, anyway.

Michael Spinks' biggest fault was that he was not a heavyweight.

Sugar Ray Robinson.

fought too long past his best, didn't use the jab as much as he should have (for being a tall WW/MW)

Lupe Pintor

Leaving the Bw division is the primary answer but for further elaborating purposes,...
He fought Gomez at an Especially bad time. Beat Lujan,Good win,but fighting Gomez was bad timing as Gomez was about to leave the 122 division when he fought Pintor. Gomez was too big and strong and it was a gruelling and probably damaging fight for poor lil Lupe. Bad Luck for him that they forced em to fight Wilfred. Otherwise may have made a relatively smooth weight division transistion.

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Danny "Lil Red" Lopez

Cuts. Defence.

Dwight Muhammed Qawi.

Datsue wrote:Cuts. Defence.

Dwight Muhammed Qawi.

Leaving the LHW(175) division). Too short(5-6) for anything beyond that. Hey,Galento probably would've made a very good LHW now that i think about it.

Juan Domingo Roldan

AngryGoon38 wrote:Juan Domingo Roldan

Marvin Hagler... also, relied too much on his big right and kept his left too low too often.

Loreto Garza

boxbible wrote:

AngryGoon38 wrote:Juan Domingo Roldan

Marvin Hagler... also, relied too much on his big right and kept his left too low too often.

Loreto Garza

Chin, chin, & chin.

Ruben Olivares.

Drugs

Aaron Pryor

Lennox Lewis arriving after the storm with no fresh competitors then passes the baton onto the klits.

Booze& bitches

John mugabi

Defense isn't somethin that goes around de yard. Gaetan Hart

As with many others in the 80s, cocaine....


here's a toughy, Harry Greb

HomicideHenry wrote:As with many others in the 80s, cocaine....


here's a toughy, Harry Greb

No film preservation,hard to say but did he lose sight in one eye before or after one of the "Tiger Flowers" fights ?
If it was before than i'd have to go with,"Only had one eye with sight".


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Marvin Hagler

AngryGoon38 wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:As with many others in the 80s, cocaine....


here's a toughy, Harry Greb

No film preservation,hard to say but did he lose sight in one eye before or after one of the "Tiger Flowers" fights ?
If it was before than i'd have to go with,"Only had one eye with sight".

I thought it was Tiger Flowers that lost sight. Isn't that why he went under the operating table where the surgeon thought he was at the butcher's?

Marvin Hagler

Too much to prove. Outpsyched himself in a few big fights.

Henry Armstrong

Don't know how you can really fault Armstrong. I guess you could say he would be at a major size disadvantage in hypothetical bouts with some of the other great welters, but then again he was far from a natural welter, anyway. Some might say a lack of versatility, but it's not like that ever did, or would, hold back his effectiveness. Styles don't make matchups for a fighter like that. He ran through styles.

Anyways, Happy Lora.

I think he means Henry akinwande

hurlock wrote:I think he means Henry akinwande

How would you confuse South American bantamweight champion Miguel "Happy" Lora with Nigerian heavyweight Henry Akinwande?

Anyway, presuming we are talking about the Colombian bantamweight, overly defensive & methodical at times. Could've done with being a touch more gung-ho, I always thought.

Bobby Chacon.

Datsue wrote:Bobby Chacon.

Happy Go Lucky... would rather rumble than box.

boxbible wrote:

Datsue wrote:Bobby Chacon.

Happy Go Lucky... would rather rumble than box.

Razor Ruddock

boxbible wrote:

boxbible wrote:

Datsue wrote:Bobby Chacon.

Happy Go Lucky... would rather rumble than box.

Razor Ruddock

Chin. The two fights with Tyson ruined him, but he wasn't impregnable before (see Bonecrusher & Weaver fights)... Actually, maybe now I've typed that his biggest fault was his inability to employ his boxing skills, the movement & the slick left jab. That all went south after the Weaver fight & it was "RAZOR... SMASH!" all the effing time.

Daniel Zaragoza.