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Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 14:19
by Finn
forcefraser wrote:Listen, Coyne is an unbeaten southpaw who has beaten Dante Craig for christ`s sake!!!!!!
Who do people want him to face? King Kong?
Look at the guys Coyne has beaten - Craig, Vecsei and Fogle!! He even KO`d Johnny Corn in the first round. No mean effort.
This is a tough one for Nathan, however with preparation, God`s will and a sprinkling of luck, I reckon he might get through this one with a first round stoppage.

Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 14:31
by Coco
The factors to consider here are, can Clev sell enough tickets to make the show profitable??
And are there any decent venues left in Wales where FW does not have an outstanding debt?
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 14:31
by ShadrachSimmo
Very average opponent. So much for B-Hop and Shumenov and the like.
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 14:49
by Bronxbull666
Good career move, he needs American exposure to get the big fights. It may seem silly now, but I see where they're going.
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 14:56
by orbtastic
Coco wrote:The factors to consider here are, can Clev sell enough tickets to make the show profitable??
And are there any decent venues left in Wales where FW does not have an outstanding debt?
Not a factor now he's on the undercard of Mares/Moreno.
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 15:26
by dondada
orbtastic wrote:Coco wrote:The factors to consider here are, can Clev sell enough tickets to make the show profitable??
And are there any decent venues left in Wales where FW does not have an outstanding debt?
Not a factor now he's on the undercard of Mares/Moreno.
I think Coco was intimating they were contributing factors as to why he's now on that card.
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 15:51
by orbtastic
Ah, well possibly. It makes better sense. Don't have to go through the pain of refunds this way, I guess.
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 15:57
by steve689
I saw Ryan Coyne sitting ringside at a show in Limerick once. Think it was maybe Casey-Hyland. So at least we know he exists.
That's my contribution

Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 16:21
by dondada
orbtastic wrote:Ah, well possibly. It makes better sense. Don't have to go through the pain of refunds this way, I guess.

Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 17:55
by CiganoBoxer
Ryan Coyn !? WTF is he ?
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 10:32
by twenty six
Hope no one's booked flights.
Sounds like it could well be off - "contractual" difficulties .........
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 10:38
by jameswilson
twenty six wrote:Hope no one's booked flights.
Sounds like it could well be off - "contractual" difficulties .........

Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 11:39
by righthook
cleverly must be real p155ed off with fish eyes. his career is in tatters.
my guess is a fight with ovil mckenzie or enzo now
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 13:09
by milpool
twenty six wrote:Hope no one's booked flights.
Sounds like it could well be off - "contractual" difficulties .........
I don't know whether to be pleased that this joke of a fight is in doubt or if sad for Nathan as he really isn't getting a fair crack.
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 19:18
by The Law
twenty six wrote:Hope no one's booked flights.
Sounds like it could well be off - "contractual" difficulties .........
Indeed. Coyne said the following:
"I am sorry to toss a monkey wrench in things, but my fight with Nathan Cleverly is not going to happen. This is purely because of the spite of an evil zealot named Don King"
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 19:58
by jameswilson
The Law wrote:twenty six wrote:Hope no one's booked flights.
Sounds like it could well be off - "contractual" difficulties .........
Indeed. Coyne said the following:
"I am sorry to toss a monkey wrench in things, but my fight with Nathan Cleverly is not going to happen. This is purely because of the spite of an evil zealot named Don King"
That is an outrage if true. In all my years of being a boxing fan I have never known a fight fall through due to promotional issues!
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 02:08
by freddydoesdallas
Surely cleverly can't be happy with the last year of his career. He seems a good guy and deserves better.
Bunny is really starting to lose his reputation in Wales.
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 02:18
by Craig14
forcefraser wrote:Listen, Coyne is an unbeaten southpaw who has beaten Dante Craig for christ`s sake!!!!!!
Who do people want him to face? King Kong?
Look at the guys Coyne has beaten - Craig, Vecsei and Fogle!! He even KO`d Johnny Corn in the first round. No mean effort.
This is a tough one for Nathan, however with preparation, God`s will and a sprinkling of luck, I reckon he might get through this one with a first round stoppage.
I'm sure nobodies disappointed that this mis-match has fallen through. At least we got this post out of it though.

Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 02:18
by Bennyblanco
The Law wrote:twenty six wrote:Hope no one's booked flights.
Sounds like it could well be off - "contractual" difficulties .........
Indeed. Coyne said the following:
"I am sorry to toss a monkey wrench in things, but my fight with Nathan Cleverly is not going to happen. This is purely because of the spite of an evil zealot named Don King"
Im pretty sure bellew would be willing to step in

Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 03:41
by whiskey
Poor Clev.
They cancel his home fight, to go on some very mediocre American card against a journeyman to get a little 'exposure' and it falls through.
Let's hope GBP get someone else quick.
But after 2012, his team have really got deliver. Karpency and a bunch of press releases is embarrassing for an unbeaten light heavyweight champion.
Never mind slagging of Hearn, Hopkins and making excuses all the time, they need to do their job by him and bring a decent name to Wales.
But their problem is Clev's profile has gone very cold - and Hopkins would ask for a lot of money, and it's not a big fight anymore and it might bomb. So I think they won't take the risk and will pack him off against Shumenov or similar next.
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 03:50
by dondada
The Law wrote:twenty six wrote:Hope no one's booked flights.
Sounds like it could well be off - "contractual" difficulties .........
Indeed. Coyne said the following:
"I am sorry to toss a monkey wrench in things, but my fight with Nathan Cleverly is not going to happen. This is purely because of the spite of an evil zealot named Don King"
I got an incredibly angry press release through from Coyne's people yesterday, accusing King of all sorts. I asked DKP for comment but none has been received.
I'd love to run it but he's very litigious is old Don.
Good luck to Coyne

Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 04:05
by Counter-puncher
dondada wrote:The Law wrote:twenty six wrote:Hope no one's booked flights.
Sounds like it could well be off - "contractual" difficulties .........
Indeed. Coyne said the following:
"I am sorry to toss a monkey wrench in things, but my fight with Nathan Cleverly is not going to happen. This is purely because of the spite of an evil zealot named Don King"
I got an incredibly angry press release through from Coyne's people yesterday, accusing King of all sorts. I asked DKP for comment but none has been received.
I'd love to run it but he's very litigious is old Don.
Good luck to Coyne

I really like the phrase 'evil zealot', if that's a taster I can see why the rest can't be aired.....
Re: Nathan Cleverly to fight Ryan Coyne next.
Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 06:40
by twenty six
Craigy.
"I'm sure nobodies disappointed this mis match has fallen through"
I can think of a few that are - particularly Nathan Cleverly.
Benny.
I hope you were taking the piss about Bellew.
There's more chance of Syria joining the EU than that fight ever happening now.