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Mandy was his ex wife

I allway's remember her ringside wearing the same outfit & thinking what a tight wad joe must be.

Counter-puncher wrote:

dondada wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:I love Joe, but my guess is he would be to boxing training, what Glen Hoddle or Platini were to football management.

Hoddle was a good manager, I think.

well then you think wrong, mate, at least if you go by wqhat people who played under him have said. everybody who ever played under him described him as an aloof, high-handed arrogant so-and-so, with no people management skills whatsoever.

it goes back to the 'frustration with lesser mortals' argument. in training he would stop the play in a huff, in order to ping a 70-yard crossfield pass demonstrating what he wanted(with unerring accuracy, obviously, as he was Glen Hoddle), and say to the players something along the lines of 'now why the eff can't you do that?'

Yep all noted. I also remember the Beckham free kick story. I didn't really mean that side of things which is important of course.
He was generally very good tactically and genuinely insightful.

Joe will be a terrible trainer, no patience, wonder why they can't do all the things he could so well. He'll chuck it in straight away unless he lands some prodigy.
Joe's a fighter thru and thru. eg Hatton is more willing to guide and bestow his knowledge.

I think joe would be great for Nathan cleverley

Rat a tat tat rat a tat tat

'Trust me, TRUST ME'

To an extent Joes career was a artistic failure circa 2004-2005....with his good looks and italian heritage and when he wanted his exciting whirlwind fighting style he should have been a star stateside a long long time before that. He was a major disapointment until the brewer fight which he made exciting.
The problem was his hand injuries making him fight safety first stinkers like the starie fight.
But the night Joe beat Lacey i think that almost was on a par with Mclellan-Benn for brutality and savagery. he looked like jack dempsey to me in that fight.

No way Ward touches Joe in his prime. He wouldnt do well as a trainer for the same reason SRL wouldnt. These guys wouldnt be able to teach what they had or ave the patience.

This may be controversial, but I've never thought Joe was a particularly well schooled fighter. He had good ability, was fit and a very strong will to win. However, he looked so awkward at times, unbalanced, couldn't throw hooks properly (bad hands?), and threw arm punches. His in-fighting wasn't great.

Sounds a bit harsh considering his achievements I know.

As mentioned before he rarely if ever had a plan b, as for the most part he didn't need one. I just think having not been trained all that well other than being ridiculously fit, he would only bring experience and training people to be fit to the table, I would question how well he could teach techniques and tactics because it all came naturally to him. So in my opinion its a bad idea.

Perhaps he would be better suited to managing.

Jc was quick off the mark finding his rythum straight away.but how much did lacy freeze & load up? He didn't throw too many & was looking very edgy to the run up of the fight.

MachoMan09 wrote:

mugabi wrote:But the night Joe beat Lacey i think that almost was on a par with Mclellan-Benn for brutality and savagery. he looked like jack dempsey to me in that fight.

Yes. Joe absolutely ruined Lacy that night. It was the best single performance by a British fighter on these shores.

That's a great comparison. It became horrible to watch actually. I wish his corner had have pulled him out a few rounds earlier. He took a real beating.

dbf wrote:
As mentioned before he rarely if ever had a plan b, as for the most part he didn't need one..

to be fair he fought Kessler from at least 3 different postures, but all in all it's possibly a valid criticism

mugabi wrote:To an extent Joes career was a artistic failure circa 2004-2005....with his good looks and italian heritage and when he wanted his exciting whirlwind fighting style he should have been a star stateside a long long time before that. He was a major disapointment until the brewer fight which he made exciting.
The problem was his hand injuries making him fight safety first stinkers like the starie fight.
But the night Joe beat Lacey i think that almost was on a par with Mclellan-Benn for brutality and savagery. he looked like jack dempsey to me in that fight.

No way Ward touches Joe in his prime. He wouldnt do well as a trainer for the same reason SRL wouldnt. These guys wouldnt be able to teach what they had or ave the patience.

Ward would beat a prime Calzaghe all night long

Counter-puncher wrote: i can't stress enough how much the Wolves players hated playing under Hoddle.

Didn't Rio Ferdinand describe Hoddle as one of the best coaches he's ever worked with when he was England manager?

Anyway, back on topic, Joe was my favourite fighter when he was active but I just can't see him being a good trainer for the same reasons as many have pointed out. Although I would agree with RLM about him being a huge inspiration to kids, imagine how packed out the gym would be knowing they could be trained by him? If he just did work with kids to get them started before going onto a more experienced trainer, I think that would be a great role for him!