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Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 14:20
by 15829
I meant by the Sky team and Eddie, i think he's British level and i don't think he's fought anyone to warrant the hype

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 14:32
by mcato
diggler wrote:I think he's one of the most over hyped fighters in the country
Yeah you could me right however he didnt do all the journeymen rounds like lots of other boxers . Valentine, Cameron,Quigley, Toms not bad names on your card at this stage of your career....dont you think? Only 12 fight remember mate, give him a chance.

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 14:56
by sugar sweet 1
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Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 15:07
by nemanja
sugar sweet 1 wrote:yes please,my last 3 fights have been against middles-super middles,butler,mendy,billy joe,im welter-light middle so hoping for fight at natural weight agaist anyone. :bag: :bag: :bag:
your welsh so cant fight for english title :TU:

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 15:17
by Horse
Ochieng vs Pryce could be an eliminator/final eliminator for the British title. I'd like to see it.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 15:20
by Looking On
Horse wrote:Ochieng vs Pryce could be an eliminator/final eliminator for the British title. I'd like to see it.

:TU:

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 15:34
by mcato
There is a very interesting conversation on twitter at the moment with @ericktheeagle & @jamiecoxpro all we need now is @eddiehearn to join in

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:00
by sugar sweet 1
Horse wrote:Ochieng vs Pryce could be an eliminator/final eliminator for the British title. I'd like to see it.
:bag: :bag: :bag:

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:09
by mcato
sugar sweet 1 wrote:
Horse wrote:Ochieng vs Pryce could be an eliminator/final eliminator for the British title. I'd like to see it.
:bag: :bag: :bag:
dont thing ochieng needs an eliminator Sky sports deal is enough

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:10
by Horse
mcato wrote:dont thing ochieng needs an eliminator Sky sports deal is enough
Is he afraid of losing?

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:23
by Dan Dares
diggler wrote:Adnan Amar would be a good step up
Nah. Not sure what happened to Amar but he's been piss poor in his last few.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:23
by mcato
Horse wrote:
mcato wrote:dont thing ochieng needs an eliminator Sky sports deal is enough
Is he afraid of losing?
If you know about boxing which I'm sure you do why have an eliminator when you could fight for the British belt next?

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:33
by Horse
mcato wrote:If you know about boxing which I'm sure you do why have an eliminator when you could fight for the British belt next?
To give Ochieng more legitimacy heading into a British title fight. At the moment Ochieng doesn't have a win over a top 10 British fighter, that doesn't help to hype a British title fight.

If Ochieng and his team think they can beat Pryce with no problems then why not do it?

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:37
by mcato
Horse wrote:
mcato wrote:If you know about boxing which I'm sure you do why have an eliminator when you could fight for the British belt next?
To give Ochieng more legitimacy heading into a British title fight. At the moment Ochieng doesn't have a win over a top 10 British fighter, that doesn't help to hype a British title fight.

If Ochieng and his team think they can beat Pryce with no problems then why not do it?
They want Commonwealth or british or Intercontinental they dont want to defend Eng belt but if they cant they will on the 8th DEC and they will get someone in top 10 or there abouts to fight Ochieng however looking for better title first

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:49
by Horse
mcato wrote:They want Commonwealth or british or Intercontinental they dont want to defend Eng belt but if they cant they will on the 8th DEC and they will get someone in top 10 or there abouts to fight Ochieng however looking for better title first
Rose is defending the British title against Webb on the 14th of December, so I don't think Ochieng can fight for that.

International titles are nothing special, if Ochieng fights someone below Pryce's level for an International title then he should expect a hail of abuse.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:58
by mcato
Horse wrote:
mcato wrote:They want Commonwealth or british or Intercontinental they dont want to defend Eng belt but if they cant they will on the 8th DEC and they will get someone in top 10 or there abouts to fight Ochieng however looking for better title first
Rose is defending the British title against Webb on the 14th of December, so I don't think Ochieng can fight for that.

International titles are nothing special, if Ochieng fights someone below Pryce's level for an International title then he should expect a hail of abuse.
I suppose it depends what version and also different versions of intercontinental belts did I have to get technical I thought you would understand what I'm trying to say. Purdy had the eng belt and fought for the Ibf inter-conti. belt and won and now he is fighting Carson Jones and getting recognised.I hope you understand what I trying to say. I really dont think matchroom will go out of there way to dodge Pryce and that's said with no disrespect to Bradley.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 17:05
by Horse
mcato wrote:I suppose it depends what version and also different versions of intercontinental belts did I have to get technical I thought you would understand what I'm trying to say. Purdy had the eng belt and fought for the Ibf inter-conti. belt and won and now he is fighting Carson Jones and getting recognised.I hope you understand what I trying to say. I really dont think matchroom will go out of there way to dodge Pryce and that's said with no discrespect to Bradley.
Purdy fought Carrasco for an International title and Carrasco isn't as good as Pryce P4P. If Ochieng does the same then he is taking the easy road.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 17:50
by 15829
The thing with certain fighters Matchroom are bringing over the likes of Purdy and Bellews opponent have had good looking records but if you look at who they've faced it's padded, if the Erick fights someone who people know then they can gauge for themselves how good he is, rather than him fighting a Argentinean with a 20-3(15) record and people still being non the wier if hes all hype or not

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 17:51
by Horse
diggler wrote:The thing with certain fighters Matchroom are bringing over the likes of Purdy and Bellews opponent have had good looking records but if you look at who they've faced it's padded, if the Erick fights someone who people know then they can gauge for themselves how good he is, rather than him fighting a Argentinean with a 20-3(15) record and people still being non the wier if hes all hype or not
I agree.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 13:46
by mcato
Horse wrote:
diggler wrote:The thing with certain fighters Matchroom are bringing over the likes of Purdy and Bellews opponent have had good looking records but if you look at who they've faced it's padded, if the Erick fights someone who people know then they can gauge for themselves how good he is, rather than him fighting a Argentinean with a 20-3(15) record and people still being non the wier if hes all hype or not
I agree.
Yes but look at who Purdy is fighting now and it has generated interest. I suppose thats why we are not promoters!

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 13:54
by 15829
mcato wrote:
Horse wrote:
diggler wrote:The thing with certain fighters Matchroom are bringing over the likes of Purdy and Bellews opponent have had good looking records but if you look at who they've faced it's padded, if the Erick fights someone who people know then they can gauge for themselves how good he is, rather than him fighting a Argentinean with a 20-3(15) record and people still being non the wier if hes all hype or not
I agree.
Yes but look at who Purdy is fighting now and it has generated interest. I suppose thats why we are not promoters!


That's because Lee Purdy is a all action fighter where as Ochieng is more of a boxer so he's not gonna capture the imagination of the casual fans

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 05:10
by Peter Parker
Adamj1987 wrote:Ishe smith a win over him will shokt him up the rankings
Ishe Smith is a really good fighter, might be too good and too much money, always been on the verge of something big, without quite getting there.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 06:02
by mcato
Bullets For You wrote:
maley1984 wrote:I think it should b between nasser al harbi or jamie ball, fought an eliminator draw due to a cut both lads r deserving of a shot.
Talking of Nasser what's happened to his Dad, been every quiet on here lately has he been banned?
Please lets keep this thread about Pryce, Ochieng, intercontinent, international, John Terry , fast cars, slow car, medium, the queen, the king but please no more threads about Saf its not fair on him his son or people that start new threads.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 13:26
by Peter Parker
Pryce would be a good test, but not good for boxing, as it would be best to have younger fresher fighter, don't know what's happening with O'donnell, but can't see him fighting for the English, Hall needs a fight, he would take it, Selkirk won't do the weight, O'meara might take it, but doubt it on a Hearn show, Maxwell would take it tommorow, Al Harbi wants it, according to twitter and would be a good fight, apparently Ball has retired and out of the eliminator with Al Harbi, which in turn would free Al Harbi, Cox is fighting on a Warren show, Rose is fighting Webb in december, Mansouri has a chance, would take it to Ochieng, ( depending on prizefighter ) maybe a Quigley rematch, it was a great fight last time, if Quigley changes his tactics could be closer, I think Ochiengs team will go safe, someone like Nathan Graham, who will put up a good fight, but not be too much of a threat, like Lowe. Does Ochieng sell enough tickets to bring in a good name from abroad ? If he does that will be the best bet, but I am sure Hearn would have got him a shot at an IBF International title by now if he did or made a big offer for Cox, personally I don't think he would want to risk losing a shot at the british or commonwealth against some of the fighters above, Rose will vacate the british if he beats Webb, then they will be a rush for it, unless someone already has something in place.

Re: WHO SHOULD ERICK OCHIENG FIGHT ON THE 8TH DEC?

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 13:55
by mcato
Peter Parker wrote:Pryce would be a good test, but not good for boxing, as it would be best to have younger fresher fighter, don't know what's happening with O'donnell, but can't see him fighting for the English, Hall needs a fight, he would take it, Selkirk won't do the weight, O'meara might take it, but doubt it on a Hearn show, Maxwell would take it tommorow, Al Harbi wants it, according to twitter and would be a good fight, apparently Ball has retired and out of the eliminator with Al Harbi, which in turn would free Al Harbi, Cox is fighting on a Warren show, Rose is fighting Webb in december, Mansouri has a chance, would take it to Ochieng, ( depending on prizefighter ) maybe a Quigley rematch, it was a great fight last time, if Quigley changes his tactics could be closer, I think Ochiengs team will go safe, someone like Nathan Graham, who will put up a good fight, but not be too much of a threat, like Lowe. Does Ochieng sell enough tickets to bring in a good name from abroad ? If he does that will be the best bet, but I am sure Hearn would have got him a shot at an IBF International title by now if he did or made a big offer for Cox, personally I don't think he would want to risk losing a shot at the british or commonwealth against some of the fighters above, Rose will vacate the british if he beats Webb, then they will be a rush for it, unless someone already has something in place.
Cox fight for WBO Inter. has been cancelled so cox vs ochieng will be 1st choice then the other options will have to wait until this fight definatley not happening 2nd option will be international or intercontinental. Hearns has made it clear from the start if he can, Ochieng will not be fighting for the English again so all the other fighters you have mentioned will have to wait like Al Harbi & Pryce. Boxers like O'mera will not be interested in Eng belt his waiting for British or commonwealth as Cox and O'meara both FW camp and FW likes to keep things in house so it's all IF'S BUT'S AND MAYBES.