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Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 20:53
by Cyclops
Wouldn't it be great if it could be Povetkin? Does he have a fight lined up? I kind of have a soft spot for Chisora despite everything and I think it would be hilarious if he beat Povetkin and held a world title.

Who ever the opponent, I hope this is one he wins.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 00:26
by Karl Jade
Povetkin wouldn't risk fighting him. Sad story but completely true.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 03:13
by lillywhite14
Wouldn't risk fighting him? Povetkin has beat better fighters than Del boy. Not sure he would avoid him!

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 03:42
by stevieb_8006
When did Derek chisora become a complete killer that everyone avoids? A non puncher with erratic disipline who's best win is Sam sexton. Gets loads of credit for fighting back and not getting ko'd by a forty year old.

Also, you'd think fury had absolutly nothing to do with winning ten of the twelve rounds they competed.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 04:14
by lillywhite14
stevieb_8006 wrote:When did Derek chisora become a complete killer that everyone avoids? A non puncher with erratic disipline who's best win is Sam sexton. Gets loads of credit for fighting back and not getting ko'd by a forty year old.

Also, you'd think fury had absolutly nothing to do with winning ten of the twelve rounds they competed.
:salut:

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 05:52
by Adamj1987
stevieb_8006 wrote:When did Derek chisora become a complete killer that everyone avoids? A non puncher with erratic disipline who's best win is Sam sexton. Gets loads of credit for fighting back and not getting ko'd by a forty year old.

Also, you'd think fury had absolutly nothing to do with winning ten of the twelve rounds they competed.
I dont get it either all the credit he gets were in losing fights. And the sexton fight sam seemed intimidated by del and didnt throw much back.

Fury beat him fair and square its chisoras fault he bulked up ti match tysons weight, other fighters do it all the tima against the klitschkos and no-one says oh thats why klitschko beat them

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 05:55
by the truth
Audley Harrison....

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 05:58
by stevieb_8006
Fury (and granted its his own fault) is now a pantomime villain that can't do right for doing wrong. And boxing fans just egg each other on making out he worse than he actually is. If price dealt with rogan and vinnie in the way Tyson did they'd b falling over themselves to compliment him. He's getting credit for beating Audrey and fighting Skelton for gods sake. Imagine the flack fury would get if Skelton was his next opponent. It's like they have to pick a side and can't acknowledge winning the British and commonwealth at 22 wasn't a bad achievement.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 06:20
by lillywhite14
It is weird that guys do pick a side in such a situation. It's the football fan mentality. I like them both and think it would be a cracking match up.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 06:22
by Adamj1987
lillywhite14 wrote:It is weird that guys do pick a side in such a situation. It's the football fan mentality. I like them both and think it would be a cracking match up.
Same here both are different fighters but both are great to talk to should you get the chance. Fury isn't the idiot he comes across as when you get to speak to him

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 10:03
by Finn
Horse wrote:
carlbcfc wrote:I'm sure Del Boy said he is only in it for big fights win or lose. Got to respect him for that. The build up the 2nd time will be great. Chisora was unusually quiet last time knowing he was bringing a rubber ring in with him.
He has lost three in a row, it makes him look like a journeyman.

He should pick up a win against someone he is likely to beat like Rogan, before he fights someone he will be the underdog against like Price.
I dont agree he's lost to haye, took vitali the distance and everyone knows he beat Helenius; he's given a good account of himself in the ring in all fights, why then get in the ring with someone like rogan? what message does that send out.

He should be looking at fury, price, arreola (or any other yank), adamek then targeting povetkin.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 10:11
by lillywhite14
Chisora wouldn't beat any of them though.

Getting beat could dent his confidence big time and don't forget in his last fight he didn't just get beat he got pole axed. I think he needs a couple of tune ups before getting back in there with this level of fighter. Blow the cobwebs off and get the KO loss out of his system etc.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 10:19
by Horse
kingfinn wrote:I dont agree he's lost to haye, took vitali the distance and everyone knows he beat Helenius; he's given a good account of himself in the ring in all fights, why then get in the ring with someone like rogan? what message does that send out.

He should be looking at fury, price, arreola (or any other yank), adamek then targeting povetkin.
He might be getting used to losing. His best official win is against Sexton (who isn't very good) and that was over two years ago.

I'd like to see him beat someone.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 12:43
by the truth
Sexton isn't very good is he not? I bet he's better than you though??

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 12:51
by Horse
the truth wrote:Sexton isn't very good is he not? I bet he's better than you though??
I'd smash his head in.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 13:23
by Finn
Horse wrote:
kingfinn wrote:I dont agree he's lost to haye, took vitali the distance and everyone knows he beat Helenius; he's given a good account of himself in the ring in all fights, why then get in the ring with someone like rogan? what message does that send out.

He should be looking at fury, price, arreola (or any other yank), adamek then targeting povetkin.
He might be getting used to losing. His best official win is against Sexton (who isn't very good) and that was over two years ago.

I'd like to see him beat someone.
He needs to beat someone worthwhile though.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 14:49
by Horse
kingfinn wrote:He needs to beat someone worthwhile though.
A lower top 100 world ranked heavyweight would be good enough.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 15:18
by hurlock
Do people forget his lost his last four??

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 15:25
by Adamj1987
hurlock wrote:Do people forget his lost his last four??
4 of his last 5

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 16:22
by josh fg
If I was his manager, and cared about him, I'd give him two or three easy fights then try to get him a British shot by a fight v someone like towers. He has been thrown to a level above his ability and he;s young enough to be able to work his way to a better level if he takes time but he's not at a stage where he'll learn much by loosing. I think Warren has taken the assessment he'll go nuts eventually so he's maximising income before he blows up.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 16:37
by loaded_gloves
People who dismiss Chisora as a journeyman have to be the most idiotic and infuriating of boxing fans. We're all rightfully peeved that heavyweights won't risk anything or fight anyone and yet when Chisora fights four big names on the trot he's regarded as poorer than everybody else and relegated to 'journeyman'. Helenius would knock most heavies out - Chisora beat him. Vitali stops almost all his opponents - Chisora goes 12 no problems and makes the oldboy work for it for once. Gets no credit. He was obviously overweight and seemingly undermotivated for Fury and had him rocking. Chisora fully deserves to be considered among the top 10 - he did better than most of them would if only they had the bollocks to fight the guys he fights.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 16:43
by Ratchet Exits Nu
Bullets For You wrote:
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote: And a hernia that curtailed his roadwork, Don Charles ( his trainer) mentioned it.
Ouch ... never heard about that

So overtrained (from two Wlad training camps) under motivated, overweight, herniated and he still takes the mighty Fury twelve rounds (hurting him badly in 2nd and 10th)

:o
Hernia only came out many months after. Don Charles and others would not have been paid if the fight were cancelled, and despite the injury, Del Boy insisted to go ahead with the fight without being able to do roadwork. feasible, given the condition/weight he came in at.

Apparently Del Boy runs almost everyday regardless if a fight is scheduled or not, so it has been reported.

An in shape Del Boy would beat Fury, imo.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 16:44
by Ratchet Exits Nu
loaded_gloves wrote:People who dismiss Chisora as a journeyman have to be the most idiotic and infuriating of boxing fans. We're all rightfully peeved that heavyweights won't risk anything or fight anyone and yet when Chisora fights four big names on the trot he's regarded as poorer than everybody else and relegated to 'journeyman'. Helenius would knock most heavies out - Chisora beat him. Vitali stops almost all his opponents - Chisora goes 12 no problems and makes the oldboy work for it for once. Gets no credit. He was obviously overweight and seemingly undermotivated for Fury and had him rocking. Chisora fully deserves to be considered among the top 10 - he did better than most of them would if only they had the bollocks to fight the guys he fights.
Well said.

:TU:

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 18:10
by fightfaninfrance
Horse wrote:
Bullets For You wrote:I tend to agree
You are both wrong.
What has Fury learnt since that fight? How to beat a bum?

Chisora has come on for me, he'll deny Price the chance to derail Fury by finishing him late on himself.

Re: DellBoy offered a big fight in december..

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 18:30
by Bronxbull666
I'd like to see an in shape Chisora vs Pulev. It's the only ranking fight out there and the only money making fight out there. If Pulev stops Chisora, tells Vitali a thing or two. If Chisora smothers Pulev, he's still in the big time.