BoxRec

vxrandall wrote:game of trumps?

KO percentages

Jones 77% at Welter
Benn 73% at Middle/SMW
Hamed 84% at Feather

P4P - Prince is strong.

palooka wrote:Paul Ryan could hit so could Crawford Ashley.

orbtastic wrote:Benn's drop in KO % coincided with his move up to super middle, where he'd already changed style considerably and also faced better opposition, broadly speaking.

Colin Jones could hit but he faced Geography teachers from Ghent in some fights so it's hard to gauge, the same with Pat Barrett - Their KOs dried up when they faced top level guys but it's somewhat disingenuous to criticise Jones for not knocking out the likes of McCrory and Curry.

G0mez wrote:

80/20 wrote:Wayne Alexander?

Its not Wayne but I like that Gomez !



Hi Wayne

gp. wrote:

orbtastic wrote:Benn's drop in KO % coincided with his move up to super middle, where he'd already changed style considerably and also faced better opposition, broadly speaking.

Colin Jones could hit but he faced Geography teachers from Ghent in some fights so it's hard to gauge, the same with Pat Barrett - Their KOs dried up when they faced top level guys but it's somewhat disingenuous to criticise Jones for not knocking out the likes of McCrory and Curry.

Well, Colin Jones was not at all a good boxer. The punch was pretty much the only thing he had.

Of course, he was nowhere near as likely to land that punch as the likes of Naseem Hamed. But is being able to land a punch part of this discussion? If not then Jones has to be up there because I can't recall many other people who got as far as he did relying solely on a punch with as limited boxing skills as he possessed.

Coco wrote:

gp. wrote:

orbtastic wrote:Benn's drop in KO % coincided with his move up to super middle, where he'd already changed style considerably and also faced better opposition, broadly speaking.

Colin Jones could hit but he faced Geography teachers from Ghent in some fights so it's hard to gauge, the same with Pat Barrett - Their KOs dried up when they faced top level guys but it's somewhat disingenuous to criticise Jones for not knocking out the likes of McCrory and Curry.

Well, Colin Jones was not at all a good boxer. The punch was pretty much the only thing he had.

Of course, he was nowhere near as likely to land that punch as the likes of Naseem Hamed. But is being able to land a punch part of this discussion? If not then Jones has to be up there because I can't recall many other people who got as far as he did relying solely on a punch with as limited boxing skills as he possessed.

Jones was a good enough to win the ABAs in the amateurs as well as being the youngest to represent GB in the Olympics.
You clearly underestimate his boxing ability. It is impossible to compete at that level without it.

elephant man wrote:Bob Fitzsimmons

mrpedigree wrote:If its pound 4 pound then Naz smokes them all ...thats a fact i am afraid
In fact didnt Emanuel Stewart a few years ago say in an interview to one of the leading Magazines that when ask to re sight who was the hardest puncher he eva held the mits for ,he answered "Naseem Hamed no question !

vxrandall wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:If its pound 4 pound then Naz smokes them all ...thats a fact i am afraid
In fact didnt Emanuel Stewart a few years ago say in an interview to one of the leading Magazines that when ask to re sight who was the hardest puncher he eva held the mits for ,he answered "Naseem Hamed no question !

This!

P4P.

Stats and legendary trainers corroborate. Naz punched like a mule kicks. Take a bow son!

gp. wrote:The punch was pretty much the only thing he had.

coco. wrote:Jones was a good enough to win the ABAs in the amateurs as well as being the youngest to represent GB in the Olympics.
You clearly underestimate his boxing ability. It is impossible to compete at that level without it.

gp. wrote:Everything is relative of course. For a man who competed at that level, he was not at all a good boxer.