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Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 30 Nov 2012, 19:31
by Finn
ta596 wrote:Frankie Gavin wrote:Next is voluntary sure this fight will be my mandatory after tho!
Vassell would be a nightmare for Gavin, what a great fight it would make.
yeah that has the potential to be a classic, lets face it gavin would have ruined heffron.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 30 Nov 2012, 19:44
by Final round
Nice performance by Vassell and well stopped by the ref.
After the second uppercut Vassell could've absolutely nailed Heffron with a free shot
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 30 Nov 2012, 19:45
by ta596
kingfinn wrote:ta596 wrote:Frankie Gavin wrote:Next is voluntary sure this fight will be my mandatory after tho!
Vassell would be a nightmare for Gavin, what a great fight it would make.
yeah that has the potential to be a classic, lets face it gavin would have ruined heffron.
Heffron would have been schooled and never been the same again, So Vassell/Gavin is the right fight now.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 30 Nov 2012, 20:41
by broomy7s
ta596 wrote:I thought the Allegedly channel commentators were really biased towards Heffron in the early rounds, till they realised it was one way traffic.
Agreed mate, I thought Vassell was class. Couldn't believe he was 6/5, bookies clearly don't always get it right, clearly scared of his inactivity.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 02:33
by Boxingcutsman
I knew this would happen, Ronnie trains and fights like he's a world class puncher, but he's not, he's only a area level puncher IMO, he's a nice kid and I'm glad the ref stopped him from getting hurt. Has Mr Gavin knows im never too far out with my predictions and I said in my earlier comment, Ronnie would win first couple rounds then Denton would find his form after shacking off the ring rust and just be too much for him, and I was right, it happend 2 rounds earlier than I thought though, I must be losing my touch
(This post has been edited to how it should of read in first place)
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 07:10
by ta596
Boxingcutsman wrote:I knew this would happen, Ronnie is trained and fights like he's a world class puncher, but he's not, he's not even a area level puncher IMO, he's a nice kid and I'm glad the ref stopped him from getting put to sleep. Has Mr Gavin knows im never too far out with my predictions

and I said in my earlier comment, Ronnie would win first couple rounds then Denton would find his form after shacking off the ring rust and just be too much for him, and I was right, it happend 2 rounds earlier than I thought though, I must be losing my touch

I don't think Heffron should have been given any of the rounds IMO
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 09:50
by whiskey
Frankie if you fight Vassell and beat him I will be impressed. You will need to be in tip top physical shape down the stretch though.
For 1 year out, he looked solid, and i think he will be sharper next time out.

Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 10:36
by Boxingcutsman
Yh of course, Ronnie can most certainly come again, I had hoped he would win, but knew that what happened would happen, he's a nice kid who's dedicated and his young still, a loss is not the end of the world, main thing is he never got a sustained beating or got hurt

Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 10:52
by palooka
Vassell looked absolutely ripped; he must train very hard and be really level headed to keep his motivation after such inactivity; Heffron is a decent 1,2,3 fighter; strong, game and he boxes well enough but not well enough to be a champion though I imagine he'll be in some really entertaining bouts.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 12:40
by jessi
G0mez wrote:Frankie if you fight Vassell and beat him I will be impressed. You will need to be in tip top physical shape down the stretch though.
For 1 year out, he looked solid, and i think he will be sharper next time out.

I agree Frankie will need to be in tip top condition and I agree vassell will be even sharper, I'm looking forward to it but will bet as much as I can afford to loose Frankie wins !
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 12:45
by palooka
jessi wrote:G0mez wrote:Frankie if you fight Vassell and beat him I will be impressed. You will need to be in tip top physical shape down the stretch though.
For 1 year out, he looked solid, and i think he will be sharper next time out.

I agree Frankie will need to be in tip top condition and I agree vassell will be even sharper, I'm looking forward to it but will bet as much as I can afford to loose Frankie wins !
You should bet with your head and not your heart jessi; you put yourself out big time supporting Frankie; ater 12 months out Vassell looked very good indeed, if he gets a run of bouts he will be better. Vassell cuts no corners intraining - that is obvious by his physique - he looks like Tim Bradley. I hope it comes off, it will be a cracking bout; Denton ought to have more recognition.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 16:09
by TheCobra
Yep that is some physique Denton's got there, ripped to the max, he certainly looks to have the dedication required. On what I have seen of both men in the pros, minus any hype or Amateur achievements, then I would have to put Denton as a favourite to beat Frankie Gavin.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 16:16
by palooka
TheCobra wrote:Yep that is some physique Denton's got there, ripped to the max, he certainly looks to have the dedication required. On what I have seen of both men in the pros, minus any hype or Amateur achievements, then I would have to put Denton as a favourite to beat Frankie Gavin.
I agree Cobra; although Frankie is coming into his own and sems to be getting on, there is more promise and hype to his career than results. Vassell has had little hype and the expectations on him are far fewer and he is delivering good results; I think it i a good thing he holds a job down as well; it shows that his feet are on the ground. He is a very good fighter though I do not think he will win a World title - in comparison people expect the world and more from Frankie, I'm not sure that's a help or a hinderance.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 16:21
by JLP
I know pro bodybuilders who would give almost anything for Denton's abdominal genetics.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 16:32
by palooka
JLP wrote:I know pro bodybuilders who would give almost anything for Denton's abdominal genetics.
You reckon his dad, brthers and sisters have the same belly? I think hard work and strict diet plays its part. He is certainly the best physical specimen in the welter division by some way.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 16:33
by TheCobra
palooka wrote:JLP wrote:I know pro bodybuilders who would give almost anything for Denton's abdominal genetics.
You reckon his dad, brthers and sisters have the same belly? I think hard work and strict diet plays its part. He is certainly the best physical specimen in the welter division by some way.
There is so much man-love in this room right now!
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 16:37
by palooka
TheCobra wrote:palooka wrote:JLP wrote:I know pro bodybuilders who would give almost anything for Denton's abdominal genetics.
You reckon his dad, brthers and sisters have the same belly? I think hard work and strict diet plays its part. He is certainly the best physical specimen in the welter division by some way.
There is so much man-love in this room right now!
Ha ha! I ams what I am (as Popeye would say). I have to say I do admire people like Denton; they plug away, do not get molly coddled, they stick with it and don't go up their own arses, more play to the fellow. Hope he gets some big fights and good money out of the game.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 17:26
by JLP
palooka wrote:JLP wrote:I know pro bodybuilders who would give almost anything for Denton's abdominal genetics.
You reckon his dad, brthers and sisters have the same belly? I think hard work and strict diet plays its part. He is certainly the best physical specimen in the welter division by some way.
Of course hard work plays a part in the size and definition but the shape of your abdominals is genetic. That's why some people even when ripped
only have a 'four pack' some people have a 'six pack' etc..

Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 02:04
by jessi
Palooka, bet or no bet, Frankie will be to smart for vassell, although he showed the young heffron a trick or two and looks like Timothy Bradley that's not get to carried away ! I agree Gavin needs to be 100% ready, but vassell hasn't done anything that worries me what so ever !
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 16:09
by jam100
I have always like Denton, classy operator on the occasions i have seen him, and to put on the performance he did after a year out, shows some good skills. He really needs to push on now!
And he helped we with a nice little treble with Flintoff and Trout! Wish i had put more then £3.50 on it though!
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 03 Dec 2012, 12:38
by Old bones Ian
Yep i like Vassell as well, i was a bit concerned beforehand that he was coming in after a year out, but he dealt with Heffron in a very professional manner, no complaints about the stoppage either.
Heffron can come again, and has been said many times before a boxer can learn more from a defeat than a victory (although it can also mean a boxer is never the same again)
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 03 Dec 2012, 16:58
by whiskey
Old bones Ian wrote:Yep i like Vassell as well, i was a bit concerned beforehand that he was coming in after a year out, but he dealt with Heffron in a very professional manner, no complaints about the stoppage either.
Heffron can come again, and has been said many times before a boxer can learn more from a defeat than a victory (although it can also mean a boxer is never the same again)
Agreed.
I do think the ref called it right, bar a random knockout swing, it looked like he was going to enter a mauling.
As it stands he is still intact for the comeback.
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 04 Dec 2012, 13:11
by benji12345
as told effron only had just over 3 weeks for the fight how come they took it then who is is manager then wants sacking
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 04 Dec 2012, 14:46
by ta596
benji12345 wrote:as told effron only had just over 3 weeks for the fight how come they took it then who is is manager then wants sacking
He trained for the Barnes fight and continued in the gym, was offered Vassell fight longer then 3 weeks ago, anyway Vassell was out for over a year,
Re: vassell vs heffron
Posted: 04 Dec 2012, 15:48
by hurlock
How gay does ripped to the max sound!!
