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Chavez v Taylor

Gatti v forgot

Louis v galentino

Johnson v Patterson

gilgamesh wrote:I don't think there's any such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. Even if a guy is losing every round, it's up to the other guy to keep his defense sure and to have trained hard and not run out of gas. If he runs out of gas or slips up for even a second, and the other guy is able to take advantage and land a KO shot...then in that moment he proved himself the superior fighter. Sometimes a moment is all it takes. Throwing a punch with the intention of hurting a guy and then hurting him, isn't luck, it's Boxing.

I agree.

I don't think there is technically such a thing called a lucky punch. It's all probability in my opinion. I think it's possible to land a perfect punch without even looking but it's also possible that a perfect punch can miss.

McCallum v Curry - Maybe not so much as lucky, but a wild, winging shot that happened to connect as Curry moved back and dropped his hands.

McCall v Lewis
Barkley v Hearns I

Jackson v Graham was not really a lucky punch, for me. He was throwing shots with Graham, as he knew he coud not hit him any other way. He timed him / fluked it?

gilgamesh wrote:I don't think there's any such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. Even if a guy is losing every round, it's up to the other guy to keep his defense sure and to have trained hard and not run out of gas. If he runs out of gas or slips up for even a second, and the other guy is able to take advantage and land a KO shot...then in that moment he proved himself the superior fighter. Sometimes a moment is all it takes. Throwing a punch with the intention of hurting a guy and then hurting him, isn't luck, it's Boxing.

Good post.

Henry Akinwande v Lennox Lewis. The knock-down the ref missed.

Lewis vs Ruddock

The Dark Destroyer wrote:

RazorKO wrote:Lewis vs Ruddock

The right hand that took Rudduck's legs away was lucky was it?

Yep, Ruddock was on his way in destroying that fraud and was dominating the first round.

If the fight was fought in any other country but England, Lewis would be eating hospital food.
And we all know that boxing in Britain is akin to German boxing for its corruption.

RazorKO wrote:

The Dark Destroyer wrote:

RazorKO wrote:Lewis vs Ruddock

The right hand that took Rudduck's legs away was lucky was it?

Yep, Ruddock was on his way in destroying that fraud and was dominating the first round.

If the fight was fought in any other country but England, Lewis would be eating hospital food.
And we all know that boxing in Britain is akin to German boxing for its corruption.

Welcome back RazorKO! Good to see your love for British boxing has held firm in spite of all the brutal ko's that South African fighters have sufferered here over the years...

Maybe this should be posted as snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.
Being behind in a fight & getting trounced & then to pull out that big punch to take your opponent out us fairy tale shit!
Most fighters go out on there shield. & unleash what they have left & if they are to catch there over confident opponent it can be disaster & we all love a turn around

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Well lets agree to disagree. I can think of many instances where the British fighter was allowed to get their own way and won due to corruption inside British rings (Nigel Benn vs Gerald McClelan, Hatton vs Tszyu, Calslappy vs Manfredo). To name a few.

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Welcome back RazorKO! Good to see your love for British boxing has held firm in spite of all the brutal ko's that South African fighters have sufferered here over the years...[/quote]

Thanks for the welcome, dont get me wrong, I respect many British fighters, namely Mark Kaylor who I saw live against Roy Gumbs, since British title fights were always shown on South African TV. As well as Hatton and Colin Jones.

However the two biggest frauds of boxing (Lennox Lewis and Calslappy) unfortunately happen to be British.

kayfoo wrote:I don't think there is technically such a thing called a lucky punch. ... I think it's possible to land a perfect punch without even looking but it's also possible that a perfect punch can miss.

right. now that is some compelling argument.

Do you guys think the punch that the great Rocky Marciano gave the great Jersey Joe Walcott on the chin a lucky punch? Marciano was behind in the scorecards at the time of the stoppage. It was the 13th fight of one of the greatest fights in boxing history that we seldom talk about here. What a punch!

I meant 13th round.

No. Marciano tried to land a punch on Joe and he succeeded

elmersalsa wrote:Do you guys think the punch that the great Rocky Marciano gave the great Jersey Joe Walcott on the chin a lucky punch?

of course not. to me a lucky punch is when you are
for example at the ropes, in desperate trouble, losing
on all accounts and one of your punches all of a sudden
lands and kos the other guy.

marciano's was the exact opposite. he was chasing
and finally found his target. no luck whatsoever in this one.
neither was foreman against moorer.

haven't watched the fight in a while, but jorge castro could
qualify, though i think jorge still had his senses together
quite well when he landed against jackson.

hurlock wrote:Chavez v Taylor

Gatti v forgot

Louis v galentino

Johnson v Patterson

That was no lucky punch in that Chavez v Taylor fight. Chavez expertly maneuvered Taylor into a corner and threw a textbook straight right hand that dropped him after Taylor had taken 12 rounds of brutal punishment. Just ask Dr. Flip Homansky. It's not like Chavez was throwing windmill punches with his eyes closed.

RazorKO wrote:

The Dark Destroyer wrote:

RazorKO wrote:Lewis vs Ruddock

The right hand that took Rudduck's legs away was lucky was it?

Yep, Ruddock was on his way in destroying that fraud and was dominating the first round.

If the fight was fought in any other country but England, Lewis would be eating hospital food.
And we all know that boxing in Britain is akin to German boxing for its corruption.

I read this and the Calzaghe quote with amazement. I agree that the Manfredo stoppage was premature, but are you seriously contending that Manfredo would have provided some sort of competition if the fight had gone on? Which of Manfredo's performances, before or since would suggest that? I can buy calling Calzaghe a fraud; he avoided nearly all meaningful competition, but I think he had the skills to beat nearly everyone in his era, and was certainly a league above Manfredo.

And with the Lewis/Ruddock fight, I just don't know what you're seeing. The first round was close and competitive, I had Ruddock shading it at the time of the knockdown due to throwing more left hooks, but there was no luck involved in that punch; Ruddock dips and throws a soft left to the body, and Lewis throws a jab and follows it up with a huge right. He's looking straight at the impact point all the way through. And where was the corruption? Ruddock was making no attempt to rise after the final knockdown, and doesn't resist or complain when the ref takes his gumshield.

Jaclem wrote:..when i asked ezzard charles if that left hook walcott kayoed him with was a lucky punch, he said, "not for me it wasn't"

Funny! What did Sullivan say when you made fun of his mustache? OK, just kiddin jac.....

Foreman's very educated & lucky punch that took him back to the top. (Over Moorer)