Only joking, mate.Did Herbie Hide really say all this?
Indeed, boxers have PR agents to do these press releases. My concern was not with the authenticity of the actual quotes but the authenticity of the source the press release came from.
Jason (from Hennessy I think) left me a voicemail telling me it was legit. So fine.
Bennie quoting Harry Mullan is bang on the money. BBN received a press release recently from Hennessy Sports entitled 'Froch thanks Nottingham'. Mick H and Carl were indeed thanking the Notts fans but the main thrust of it was actually a stout defence of his performance against Adamu. There was nothing really dodgy about it, although they were making Adamu out to be world class - so in the story I wrote based on the release (I would rarely advise posting a whole release) I simply added some stats which clarified matters somewhat.
Telling us what they want us to hear is their job after all. Checking it out is ours!
Jason (from Hennessy I think) left me a voicemail telling me it was legit. So fine.
Bennie quoting Harry Mullan is bang on the money. BBN received a press release recently from Hennessy Sports entitled 'Froch thanks Nottingham'. Mick H and Carl were indeed thanking the Notts fans but the main thrust of it was actually a stout defence of his performance against Adamu. There was nothing really dodgy about it, although they were making Adamu out to be world class - so in the story I wrote based on the release (I would rarely advise posting a whole release) I simply added some stats which clarified matters somewhat.
Telling us what they want us to hear is their job after all. Checking it out is ours!
That's right. We have to take these press releases with a huge pinch of salt. The BBC and even the respected Boxing Scene.com has reproduced this dodgy release word for word. That's lazy in most cases. In others, it's downright crazy.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Indeed, boxers have PR agents to do these press releases. My concern was not with the authenticity of the actual quotes but the authenticity of the source the press release came from.
Jason (from Hennessy I think) left me a voicemail telling me it was legit. So fine.
Bennie quoting Harry Mullan is bang on the money. BBN received a press release recently from Hennessy Sports entitled 'Froch thanks Nottingham'. Mick H and Carl were indeed thanking the Notts fans but the main thrust of it was actually a stout defence of his performance against Adamu. There was nothing really dodgy about it, although they were making Adamu out to be world class - so in the story I wrote based on the release (I would rarely advise posting a whole release) I simply added some stats which clarified matters somewhat.
Telling us what they want us to hear is their job after all. Checking it out is ours!
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MightyWarrior
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Matchfixer
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Nothing wrong with that comment - he already has had a pretty good career. To suggest it will get better is not unrealistic.MightyWarrior wrote:Yes for a good example just check the BBC today:
"WBO featherweight champion Scott Harrison has once again been tipped for a glittering career."
By who? The completely unbiased Frank Maloney of course!
There is nothing wrong with the comment. Frank has every right to gee his man up. But there is something very wrong with the BBC's use of it. It is very wrong for our main media network - the one we all pay for - to allow itself to be used as an unchecked platform for Frank to promote his own fighter.
A point needed to be made in the story that Harrison looked shite against Estrada. Ask most of the posters on this forum...do they think more or less of Scott Harrison after his last performance? There is no way the words 'Scott Harrison' and 'glittering' should be used in the same sentence until he puts in a much more impressive effort.
A point needed to be made in the story that Harrison looked shite against Estrada. Ask most of the posters on this forum...do they think more or less of Scott Harrison after his last performance? There is no way the words 'Scott Harrison' and 'glittering' should be used in the same sentence until he puts in a much more impressive effort.
Yes good points, that could have even just added the line Frank Maloney has responded to the criticism of Scott Harrison's latest performance by stating that........Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:There is nothing wrong with the comment. Frank has every right to gee his man up. But there is something very wrong with the BBC's use of it. It is very wrong for our main media network - the one we all pay for - to allow itself to be used as an unchecked platform for Frank to promote his own fighter.
A point needed to be made in the story that Harrison looked shite against Estrada. Ask most of the posters on this forum...do they think more or less of Scott Harrison after his last performance? There is no way the words 'Scott Harrison' and 'glittering' should be used in the same sentence until he puts in a much more impressive effort.
Job done.
I don't necessarily think the BBC did a particularly bad thing, after all press releases are just that - they are really supposed to be full of bias and spin. However I think news sites SHOULD include the press release in its entireity without any comments, but make it clear to the reader that it is a press release.
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jamesmcdonnell
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I don't think Harrison has looked 'glittering' in ANY of his last 3 fights....
He looked poor in his first fight against Medina, and since then hasn't looked quite the same. He got the job done against Medina in the 2nd fight, but still had a lot of problems with him in the middle rounds, that was a fight which was being run a lot closer than many people would like to believe until Harrison got him out of there.
It's fair to say that his last 3 performances have all raised some doubts about Harrison's tenure at or near the top of the division.
That's not to say that Harrison isn't a very good fighter, he is, however I think many people now have serious reservations about putting him in the top 5.
There is a growing feeling that Harrison is possibly heading for another 'upset' loss.
In time Harrison may dispell this feeling, but right now I certainly have my doubts, and I find it very hard to envisage him surviving against Marquez or Pacman....
Harrison looks to have regressed a little, and has become too easy to hit, he relies on his physical strength which won't wory against the top men, who bang harder than Harrison.
He looked poor in his first fight against Medina, and since then hasn't looked quite the same. He got the job done against Medina in the 2nd fight, but still had a lot of problems with him in the middle rounds, that was a fight which was being run a lot closer than many people would like to believe until Harrison got him out of there.
It's fair to say that his last 3 performances have all raised some doubts about Harrison's tenure at or near the top of the division.
That's not to say that Harrison isn't a very good fighter, he is, however I think many people now have serious reservations about putting him in the top 5.
There is a growing feeling that Harrison is possibly heading for another 'upset' loss.
In time Harrison may dispell this feeling, but right now I certainly have my doubts, and I find it very hard to envisage him surviving against Marquez or Pacman....
Harrison looks to have regressed a little, and has become too easy to hit, he relies on his physical strength which won't wory against the top men, who bang harder than Harrison.
he is also too one paced at times, somewhat predicatable and too easy to work out at the very top level.
He's ahard little bugger tho I'll give him that I just think he is pretty limited against the real big names he will get found out.
It wasnt so long ago they were heralding him as the Ken B. / Jim Watt, that was just before the first Medina fight (who again is very good but not top notch such as the names James M mentioned).
I think Scot is a good fighter but his touting as a future Jim watt or Buchanan was and is very premature.
He's ahard little bugger tho I'll give him that I just think he is pretty limited against the real big names he will get found out.
It wasnt so long ago they were heralding him as the Ken B. / Jim Watt, that was just before the first Medina fight (who again is very good but not top notch such as the names James M mentioned).
I think Scot is a good fighter but his touting as a future Jim watt or Buchanan was and is very premature.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Harrison fights like a pint-sized Marciano in some respects, he's slow of foot, and doesn't take evasive steps on the way in.
His problem is he has a Marciano style without possessing Marciano power, which is the great leveller.
He doesn't punch with much 'snap' and is more of a clubbing puncher, and against the top men that will cost him, against someone like Pacman, you are going to need either height and reach and boxing skills, or speed and devastating power (which Pacman himself has), Scott has neither of these.
I will never write someone as tough as Scott off, and he's an entertaining fighter to watch, but without adding something to his game, it's going to mean him taking a hell of a lot of shots to get through to Pac or Marquez like that.
I will be interested to see how he copes with Abelyan
Something else which disturbs me, is his susceptibility to body shots, Medina and now Estrada have both made Scott wince with body shots, which makes me wonder whether he is really pushing himself too hard to make weight. I've heard it said that weight-drained fighters often don't like it to the body.
His problem is he has a Marciano style without possessing Marciano power, which is the great leveller.
He doesn't punch with much 'snap' and is more of a clubbing puncher, and against the top men that will cost him, against someone like Pacman, you are going to need either height and reach and boxing skills, or speed and devastating power (which Pacman himself has), Scott has neither of these.
I will never write someone as tough as Scott off, and he's an entertaining fighter to watch, but without adding something to his game, it's going to mean him taking a hell of a lot of shots to get through to Pac or Marquez like that.
I will be interested to see how he copes with Abelyan
Something else which disturbs me, is his susceptibility to body shots, Medina and now Estrada have both made Scott wince with body shots, which makes me wonder whether he is really pushing himself too hard to make weight. I've heard it said that weight-drained fighters often don't like it to the body.
