Fury pulls out of Price fight yet again !

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liamlion wrote:You might consider Haye an 'active' fighter but based on the fact that he has fought just twice in the past 2 years and there is no realistic prospect of him fighting again, subject to a fight being made with a 40yrs old fighter suffering with various injuries and with aspirations of having a career in politics... I consider Haye inactive and retired until he announces something to the contrary.
I think there is a good chance Vitali vs Haye will be made.
liamlion wrote:I take no interest in what governing bodies in boxing do in terms of rankings as it is nearly always driven by a desire to financially benefit themselves.
He has fought recently, so he is ranked by just about anyone who does heavyweight rankings.
liamlion wrote:Just out of interest what recent efforts has Haye done to get a fight with Vitali?
I don't know. You think he is pretending he wants to fight Vitali?
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liamlion wrote:Just out of interest what recent efforts has Haye done to get a fight with Vitali?
In the ring, fighting and destroying previous challenger Chisora following a public acceptance from Boente that it would be an eliminator. Obviously not official, but makes him at least as worthy as some of the recent waste of time challengers.

Out of the ring, publicly quoted on numerous occasions that he will only come out of retirement to fight Vitali. In addition to increasing his profile to make the fight a better sell - THE real incentive he can offer Vitali that nobody else can.

If there were a ton of credible challengers, Hayes efforts would indeed be laughable. The fact is that the merit of other challengers are actually more worthy of a chuckle.
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Fury was never going to fight Price on any channel other than 5.

After Price fights Thompson, he'll fight Chisora, after Chisora's knocked over a bum.
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Maloney needs to give up on Fury.

I like both men, but Fury is a couple of steps up the ladder to the world title, than David Price, and he won't stop and look underneath until he's tried his luck with a Klitschko.

Anything connecting the pair until after that title challenge, holds no water.

Fury is aiming to build his name against a few Americans then maybe try for Vitali at the end of the year, or be in a position to fight for the vacant WBC if Vitali has retired.

If he is derailed, then maybe it happens but not until the above has been concluded.
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liamlion wrote:
Mensa07 wrote:Little reward?? It will establish the winner as the domestic number 1 - which is a huge achievement. It would also give Fury nationwide credibilty, which he currently doesnt have.

'domestic' and 'nationwide'. Personally I believe Fury's already set his sights higher mate.

The winner would gain invaluable experience of a big fight and dealing with pressure, which will then set them up for bigger things in the future!

hmm, that would be near the bottom of the list of rewards I think mate.

Not to mention, Fury will earn a career highest purse fighting Price. And I bet that Fury would earn more fighting Price then he would for fighting one of the Klitchkos as a mandatory.

can't comment, but if he beat's one of the klits, the worlds his oyster and large, repeat paydays await.

A Fury-Price fight would give both lads massive national exposure, whilst drumming up huge commercial interest in this country and probably beyond.

I doubt drumming up interest in british boxing ranks is very high on Fury's priority list.

There should be no way in the world that you can get a world title shot when you have so clearly side-stepped a genuine and credible domestic rival.

in an ideal world bro..
With respect mate, it wasnt necessary for you to respond to each of my individual points with speculation as to what Fury's take might be. It's clear as day that Fury is avoiding Price and even if a win over Price guaranteed Fury eternal life he would still be sure to make an excuse not to take the fight...

For a 'fighting man' who fights for 'honour', Fury's behaviour is very sad and disappointing.
No offence meant brother. I'm not disagreeing that Fury's avoiding Price, but I'm not surprised by it and I can see the logic too, from his promoters point of view.
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Lets be honest furys shit scared , if it was anyone else or he thought he could beat price he'd of took the fight simple, fighting man my arse more like 6:9 bully
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the truth wrote:Lets be honest furys shit scared , if it was anyone else or he thought he could beat price he'd of took the fight simple, fighting man my arse more like 6:9 bully
The money Fury will make for fighting Price is going up all the time.

They'll fight at world level for a lot more money than they would make now.
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Not if one of them gets banjoed in the meantime which could happen
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Horse wrote:
liamlion wrote:Just out of interest what recent efforts has Haye done to get a fight with Vitali?
I don't know. You think he is pretending he wants to fight Vitali?
No, I dont.
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Mensa07 wrote:
liamlion wrote:
Mensa07 wrote:Little reward?? It will establish the winner as the domestic number 1 - which is a huge achievement. It would also give Fury nationwide credibilty, which he currently doesnt have.

'domestic' and 'nationwide'. Personally I believe Fury's already set his sights higher mate.

The winner would gain invaluable experience of a big fight and dealing with pressure, which will then set them up for bigger things in the future!

hmm, that would be near the bottom of the list of rewards I think mate.

Not to mention, Fury will earn a career highest purse fighting Price. And I bet that Fury would earn more fighting Price then he would for fighting one of the Klitchkos as a mandatory.

can't comment, but if he beat's one of the klits, the worlds his oyster and large, repeat paydays await.

A Fury-Price fight would give both lads massive national exposure, whilst drumming up huge commercial interest in this country and probably beyond.

I doubt drumming up interest in british boxing ranks is very high on Fury's priority list.

There should be no way in the world that you can get a world title shot when you have so clearly side-stepped a genuine and credible domestic rival.

in an ideal world bro..
With respect mate, it wasnt necessary for you to respond to each of my individual points with speculation as to what Fury's take might be. It's clear as day that Fury is avoiding Price and even if a win over Price guaranteed Fury eternal life he would still be sure to make an excuse not to take the fight...

For a 'fighting man' who fights for 'honour', Fury's behaviour is very sad and disappointing.
No offence meant brother. I'm not disagreeing that Fury's avoiding Price, but I'm not surprised by it and I can see the logic too, from his promoters point of view.
Yeah, fair point mate.
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Mensa07 wrote:
ArtOfWar wrote:This is another one of those fights that will end up losing a lot of steam, because one of them will get beaten before they make the fight. Boxing promoters never learn.
I dont see it as a mistake mate, Fury is on course for america and a fight with Price presents little reward vs the risk involved at this stage. A win or two stateside and he'll be in prime position for a crack at one of the K's, or ride it out till they've gone.

Yes beating Price would increase his rep for us uk fans, and it'd be a great fight to see. But in the bigger picture I imagine it's small fry when the big Nyc/Vegas dollars, celebrity, world title shots, etc are nearly in Fury's reach.
I agree id love to see fury v price but the reality is his management are steering him in the right direction Fury needs to secure his lively hood and ability to still make big fights if he loses at some point, rather than ruining his chances stardom by potentially losing to price and vice versa.

People cant really complain that Fury is avoiding price when he is going onto fight world class fighters like cunningham then looking to fight big named fighters like arreola, povetkin, then the klits. Even boystov was a pretty ballsy move before it fell through.
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In a way I don't blame Fury's people for avoiding Price. They know that there is a very high possibility of him being badly knocked out if they ever fought which would hugely derail Fury's title ambitions.

It is still disappointing though after all of the garbage Fury has been chatting about smashing Price to bits and he has clearly avoided him at every turn.

This fight could well end up never happening which would be a real shame as it would definitely be the biggest fight in Britain at the moment and would make both guys a lot of money now. Look at how fast Froch v Kessler has sold out. Now I know on the world stage that is a much bigger fight but I'd be willing to wager that Fury v Price would create even more interest and demand in Britain and if you can guarantee selling out a football stadium this summer then not going for it seems foolish to me especially given (i) the likelihood that Fury would be beaten easily by either Klitschko; and (ii) the money he would command for fighting a Klitschko would be much less than he would get for taking the Price fight.

Indeed, even if Fury did lose to Price, unless the loss was an easy KO loss (which it may well be) then I don't think he'd be in a much worse position in terms of challenging a Klitschko. Chisora lost comprehensively to Fury but still ended up getting a shot at Vitali 6 or 7 months later.
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Fury v price will happen when either or both fighters are on the decline. Fury is a young undefeated fighter who wants to be a mandatory and therefore better paid challenger to the klitschkos fighting Price now would just be too dangerous to his chances of moving up the world rankings. it is worth pointing out that he won't be the only one avoiding Price i think price will have a lot of trouble getting top class opponents to face him if he goes on like he is.
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One of these guys ought to be trying line up Pulev, really.
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MachoMan09 wrote:
The Dark Destroyer wrote:Maloney should look at Chisora...
100% in agreement. (In shape) Chisora vs Price would be a superb benchmark fight for Big Dave and a good spectacle for the viewers.
I'd have thought that that fight looks a certainty for this summer. It benefits Price in a number of ways but mainly because (i) it gives him a real test against a fringe world level fighter; (ii) it gives him the opportunity to win the Lonsdale belt outright; (iii) it would likely sell extremely well; and (iv) it would likely get Price some rounds in the bank which he probably needs given how short his last few fights have been.
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so Fury's been talking a load of shit about Price and now he's bottling it...... what a cunnt!
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G0mez wrote:Maloney needs to give up on Fury.

I like both men, but Fury is a couple of steps up the ladder to the world title, than David Price, and he won't stop and look underneath until he's tried his luck with a Klitschko.

Anything connecting the pair until after that title challenge, holds no water.

Fury is aiming to build his name against a few Americans then maybe try for Vitali at the end of the year, or be in a position to fight for the vacant WBC if Vitali has retired.

If he is derailed, then maybe it happens but not until the above has been concluded.
Listen to Gomez....
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Vaudeville Villain wrote:How can you pull out of a fight that hasn't actually been signed? It is a misleading title, he's pulled out of the purse bids.
Ok I worded It wrong, but everyone knew that fury was calling out price and stating that he would fight him "anytime anywhere" when push come to shove he didn't want to fight him ! So he pulled out of the purse bids for a second time !
In other words he pulled out of the opportunity of fighting price yet again.
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MachoMan09 wrote:
Yep. I want to see Price on the back foot before I'm buying in wholesale. Skelton had a fleeting moment or two during which Price appeared momentarily less than fully assured. Against a better class of opponent that kind of uncertainty can lead to a starching. I think Chisora is robust enough and aggressive enough to cause Price a few headaches for a while.
I think theres a very real chance price could get beaten by chisora, if he does wipe out chisora they need to stick him in with guys like helenius and povetkin asap.
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Two different promoters, neither of whom have an abundance of £ generating fighters, and who are tied to different TV channels. Does anybody think MH could even consider letting Fury fight on another channel?

Tyson hasn't made himself easy to like recently, but this decision is hardly his alone.
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Fury bottled it ! Stop sticking up for him, price will SMASH him to pieces and his whole team know it
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jessi wrote:Fury bottled it ! Stop sticking up for him, price will SMASH him to pieces and his whole team know it
Fury didn't bottle it, he just doesn't want to fight Price for chicken feed.
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Horse wrote:
jessi wrote:Fury bottled it ! Stop sticking up for him, price will SMASH him to pieces and his whole team know it
Fury didn't bottle it, he just doesn't want to fight Price for chicken feed.
Want £1.5M, you spoil your hens mate !
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liamlion wrote:
earsjohn wrote:I'm more surprised that there was any doubt that this call for purse bids would be futile. Neither promotional party wants to risk losing what could become a huge cash cow at the dawning of a post-klitschko era. At least this time Fury has been consistent in his public utterances and it seems the US route will form the next part of the journey. The fight will happen, but it looks as though it will be with a World Title at stake rather than the Lonsdale.
Wrong. Maloney and Price are quite prepared to fight Fury right now.

Precisely, I have no doubt that Price and Maloney are totally confident that they will smash Fury to bits if they face one another. I honestly think the gulf in class and in power are huge between the two. Aside from size and decent workrate, what does Fury have to trouble Price?

I think one party is happy to take this as they see little risk, the other sees too much risk for too little reward.

Fury is game, but he just isn't, and never will be that good, he can probably get a world title shot somewhere down the line, or maybe European level, but there is no way on god's green earth he is ever going to be a dominant world level heavyweight.

I've nothing against Fury, but his shortcomings are clear, piss poor technique, little power, poor conditioning and dedication to his craft, and not even it seems a very good chin.

The only question mark over Price is his chin, but this is based on his amateur career, when we was still developing into his frame.

Price sees fury as a staging post, Fury sees price as a potential pothole.
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jessi wrote:
Horse wrote:
jessi wrote:Fury bottled it ! Stop sticking up for him, price will SMASH him to pieces and his whole team know it
Fury didn't bottle it, he just doesn't want to fight Price for chicken feed.
Want £1.5M, you spoil your hens mate !
Was that the offer!!!
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