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mickey1975 wrote:But Mayweather and Broner were champions at that stage. For a novice, McDermott was about the equivalent. Yes, i would have liked to see Froch-Dirrell again, i thought Dirrell could have shut him out with a bit more self belief. I only mention that because Froch, as a forum favourite, gets such a free pass on here, when i thought it was a complete robbery.

Neither were champs for there respective fights (Broner was fighting for an 'Inter' belt, JLC was Mayweather's first fight at Lightweight, although he did hold a SFW strap).

The Froch fight wasn't a 'robbery' (such an overused word in boxing), and Froch went on to lose a close one himself against Kessler, swings and roundabouts.

Not really sure where i'm going with this to be honest, i'm in the middle of cooking my dinner. Just felt like being a bit pedantic.

kevo wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:But Mayweather and Broner were champions at that stage. For a novice, McDermott was about the equivalent. Yes, i would have liked to see Froch-Dirrell again, i thought Dirrell could have shut him out with a bit more self belief. I only mention that because Froch, as a forum favourite, gets such a free pass on here, when i thought it was a complete robbery.

Neither were champs for there respective fights (Broner was fighting for an 'Inter' belt, JLC was Mayweather's first fight at Lightweight, although he did hold a SFW strap).

The Froch fight wasn't a 'robbery' (such an overused word in boxing), and Froch went on to lose a close one himself against Kessler, swings and roundabouts.

Not really sure where i'm going with this to be honest, i'm in the middle of cooking my dinner. Just felt like being a bit pedantic.

The Froch fight WAS a robbery in my opinion, soley based on the fact that it was in Nottingham. I just dont see what he did to win the fight. He didnt even hit him! Kessler-Froch was a fair result. Reasonably close, but easy to pick the winner.

loaded_gloves wrote:I always felt that the Fury/McDermott KO looked suspect. I'm not saying John took a dive, but he did appear to voluntarily lose.

Either way, a future world champion would wreck John McDermott. It's hard to imagine Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis or a Klitschko needing 19 rds to deal with John McDermott. Matt Skelton sorted him in one.

You seem to be forgetting is the state of conditioning Furys body was in back then,he was in awful shape in those fights ,no abs,boobs an hips like a pregnant women,how he won those fights in that type of condition shows you the type of fighter he is ,...take a look at him now and the terrific condition hes in,you wouldn't think it was the same guy would ya !
Props to him and whoever got him in that type of condition ,because if he would of stayed in the condition he was in those first few fight then yes he would of been beat by now !

I love the way Fury has come out since the Price loss and said that he was planning a big summer showdown with Price prior to the defeat but now those grand plans are all off as Price is 2 years behind him.

Utter rubbish. Fury didn't take the fight because he was genuinely fearful of losing it and in my opinion is still fearful of losing it. Price has clearly done himself no favours by getting stopped by Thompson andd is without question vulnerable but I'd be willing to bet that if Price were to land any decent shot on Fury he'd stop him and Fury knows that.

If I were Fury, I'd have just kept my mouth shut and got on with doing my own job. No rubbish was necessary and if the tables had been turned you can be sure Price wouldn't be gloating the way he is.

Price's defeat does not elevate Fury in any way in my view.

mickey1975 wrote:

kevo wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:But Mayweather and Broner were champions at that stage. For a novice, McDermott was about the equivalent. Yes, i would have liked to see Froch-Dirrell again, i thought Dirrell could have shut him out with a bit more self belief. I only mention that because Froch, as a forum favourite, gets such a free pass on here, when i thought it was a complete robbery.

Neither were champs for there respective fights (Broner was fighting for an 'Inter' belt, JLC was Mayweather's first fight at Lightweight, although he did hold a SFW strap).

The Froch fight wasn't a 'robbery' (such an overused word in boxing), and Froch went on to lose a close one himself against Kessler, swings and roundabouts.

Not really sure where i'm going with this to be honest, i'm in the middle of cooking my dinner. Just felt like being a bit pedantic.

The Froch fight WAS a robbery in my opinion, soley based on the fact that it was in Nottingham. I just dont see what he did to win the fight. He didnt even hit him! Kessler-Froch was a fair result. Reasonably close, but easy to pick the winner.

Micky i agree with what you are saying but i dont think Dirrell did himself any favours falling on the canvas every 2 seconds,at one point he was holding on to Froch for dear life jut like a drunken sailor holding on to a mast
Even tho I think he might of edged it ,but if i am honest not the way i wanna see a fight won ,so i am ok with Froch winning ;;-)

SteveDow wrote:I love the way Fury has come out since the Price loss and said that he was planning a big summer showdown with Price prior to the defeat but now those grand plans are all off as Price is 2 years behind him.

Utter rubbish. Fury didn't take the fight because he was genuinely fearful of losing it and in my opinion is still fearful of losing it. Price has clearly done himself no favours by getting stopped by Thompson andd is without question vulnerable but I'd be willing to bet that if Price were to land any decent shot on Fury he'd stop him and Fury knows that.

If I were Fury, I'd have just kept my mouth shut and got on with doing my own job. No rubbish was necessary and if the tables had been turned you can be sure Price wouldn't be gloating the way he is.

Price's defeat does not elevate Fury in any way in my view.

Everything Fury said about Price has come true tho !?
I think Fury knew Price was a dangerous fight,but i also believe Fury when he said many times that Price was fragile and protected,in the end he was proved right.
How far will both go ??
I personally think Fury will go farther than Price,but i dont think ether will beat a Klit,especially Pricey ...to weak in the whiskers

mrpedigree wrote:

SteveDow wrote:I love the way Fury has come out since the Price loss and said that he was planning a big summer showdown with Price prior to the defeat but now those grand plans are all off as Price is 2 years behind him.

Utter rubbish. Fury didn't take the fight because he was genuinely fearful of losing it and in my opinion is still fearful of losing it. Price has clearly done himself no favours by getting stopped by Thompson andd is without question vulnerable but I'd be willing to bet that if Price were to land any decent shot on Fury he'd stop him and Fury knows that.

If I were Fury, I'd have just kept my mouth shut and got on with doing my own job. No rubbish was necessary and if the tables had been turned you can be sure Price wouldn't be gloating the way he is.

Price's defeat does not elevate Fury in any way in my view.

Everything Fury said about Price has come true tho !?
I think Fury knew Price was a dangerous fight,but i also believe Fury when he said many times that Price was fragile and protected,in the end he was proved right.
How far will both go ??
I personally think Fury will go farther than Price,but i dont think ether will beat a Klit,especially Pricey ...to weak in the whiskers

Weak in the whiskers?

What a ridiculous statement - Price hasn't taken a shot on the chin yet!! Your friend Mr Fury did from Pajkic though, how did that go?

MarkMcBurney wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:

SteveDow wrote:I love the way Fury has come out since the Price loss and said that he was planning a big summer showdown with Price prior to the defeat but now those grand plans are all off as Price is 2 years behind him.

Utter rubbish. Fury didn't take the fight because he was genuinely fearful of losing it and in my opinion is still fearful of losing it. Price has clearly done himself no favours by getting stopped by Thompson andd is without question vulnerable but I'd be willing to bet that if Price were to land any decent shot on Fury he'd stop him and Fury knows that.

If I were Fury, I'd have just kept my mouth shut and got on with doing my own job. No rubbish was necessary and if the tables had been turned you can be sure Price wouldn't be gloating the way he is.

Price's defeat does not elevate Fury in any way in my view.

Everything Fury said about Price has come true tho !?
I think Fury knew Price was a dangerous fight,but i also believe Fury when he said many times that Price was fragile and protected,in the end he was proved right.
How far will both go ??
I personally think Fury will go farther than Price,but i dont think ether will beat a Klit,especially Pricey ...to weak in the whiskers

Weak in the whiskers?

What a ridiculous statement - Price hasn't taken a shot on the chin yet!! Your friend Mr Fury did from Pajkic though, how did that go?

Very well. Fury won inside the distance.

MarkMcBurney wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:

SteveDow wrote:I love the way Fury has come out since the Price loss and said that he was planning a big summer showdown with Price prior to the defeat but now those grand plans are all off as Price is 2 years behind him.

Utter rubbish. Fury didn't take the fight because he was genuinely fearful of losing it and in my opinion is still fearful of losing it. Price has clearly done himself no favours by getting stopped by Thompson andd is without question vulnerable but I'd be willing to bet that if Price were to land any decent shot on Fury he'd stop him and Fury knows that.

If I were Fury, I'd have just kept my mouth shut and got on with doing my own job. No rubbish was necessary and if the tables had been turned you can be sure Price wouldn't be gloating the way he is.

Price's defeat does not elevate Fury in any way in my view.

Everything Fury said about Price has come true tho !?
I think Fury knew Price was a dangerous fight,but i also believe Fury when he said many times that Price was fragile and protected,in the end he was proved right.
How far will both go ??
I personally think Fury will go farther than Price,but i dont think ether will beat a Klit,especially Pricey ...to weak in the whiskers

Weak in the whiskers?

What a ridiculous statement - Price hasn't taken a shot on the chin yet!! Your friend Mr Fury did from Pajkic though, how did that go?

I didn't realise knockouts were invalid unless from a chin shot

fury has imprved with every fight and he shown heart in a few of his fights

the great adam booth always had fury ahead of price and he had price in the gym so he knows his boxing

im supprised that haye didnt fight price and knock him out first knowing how much of glass his chin was

fury is a top quality heavyweight boxer and will be world champ this year

Fury's recent 'inside distance' wins are suspect too. How many times has been awarded a stoppage by the house referee?

Maddalone, Pajkic, Firtha - were any of these men resolutely beaten? No.

When I saw the thread title I thought our Luke had taken up dukkering to con the Gadjé.

How wrong I was etc etc...

loaded_gloves wrote:Fury's recent 'inside distance' wins are suspect too. How many times has been awarded a stoppage by the house referee?

Maddalone, Pajkic, Firtha - were any of these men resolutely beaten? No.

Oh dear me :(

Price lost and got stopped get over it pal.

MachoMan09 wrote:

Datsue wrote:When I saw the thread title I thought our Luke had taken up dukkering to con the Gadjé.

How wrong I was etc etc...

Crystal balls are better than a crystal chin.

MachoMan09 wrote:

Datsue wrote:When I saw the thread title I thought our Luke had taken up dukkering to con the Gadjé.

How wrong I was etc etc...

Crystal balls are better than a crystal chin.

MachoMan09 wrote:

Datsue wrote:When I saw the thread title I thought our Luke had taken up dukkering to con the Gadjé.

How wrong I was etc etc...

Crystal balls are better than a crystal chin.

or crystal ears.