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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Hagler won the last 3 rounds, that isn't even debatable.

The last two rounds are not debatable. Hagler's aggression became effectively aggressive; because he started to land CLEAN, SOLID, punches on Duran's body and head. Round thirteen the fight was so razor thin, that in between the intervals of the 13th-14th round, Hagler was told he had to start hustling or else he was gonna lose the match. Round thirteen, Hagler was aggressive, but so was Duran; neither man was landing really clean, solid punches; it was the same story as the other rounds, Hagler throwing bombs and missing a majority of them and Duran throwing infrequent head-body shots and connecting. Mind you, Marvin did more or less give one round completely away, saying after the match it was 'strategy' to lure Duran in, which was a bunch of bullshit because Hagler was dead tired, same as Duran. You can't fight at a pace like that and not get dead tired; I only remember ONE clinch throughout the whole fight.

Razor thin? It was a clear Duran round before. Seriously, however you score the fight Hagler won the last three rounds. No question about it.

It was a slow paced fight. Marvin was never remotely tired. It's almost like you're reciting a video game.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Razor thin? It was a clear Duran round before. Seriously, however you score the fight Hagler won the last three rounds. No question about it.

It was a slow paced fight. Marvin was never remotely tired. It's almost like you're reciting a video game.

You're insane if you don't think Hagler was tired from all that. But then again, I'm talking to someone who believes Ali may as well of come from the planet Krypton.

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Razor thin? It was a clear Duran round before. Seriously, however you score the fight Hagler won the last three rounds. No question about it.

It was a slow paced fight. Marvin was never remotely tired. It's almost like you're reciting a video game.

You're insane if you don't think Hagler was tired from all that. But then again, I'm talking to someone who believes Ali may as well of come from the planet Krypton.

Hagler wasn't tired and in your typical fashion now you're inventing shit because you have nothing to offer. I'm not one of the Ali fan boys by any stretch of the imagination. You're an imbecile.

foxy01 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

foxy01 wrote:
" Tis far better to let people think you a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it."

You violate this every time you touch your keyboard.

Its no wonder you only write blogs as opposed to working for the more established boxing journals if that is the best you can come up with.

In fact for someone who has pretensions of being a wordsmith, you should know the difference between violate, and verify.

Go back to school, and come again when you have even a semblance of a clue as to what you are talking about.

It's obvious that you were up all night thinking about that one. Amazing how quickly little pudenda like you fall in love with me on message boards. In the future, if your response is lame, just move on with your sad little life instead of quoting it again a day later when you think you've come up with something clever.

You're merely a pathetic troll that yearns for my attention. Yours is a weak and useless existence. I'm done indulging you, sorry.

klompton wrote:I thought the fight was razor thin. Anyone who thinks that Hagler had a FIVE round lead doesnt know jack about boxing. Hagler looked like he was in the ring with his stepdaddy that night -scared Duran was gonna take off his belt and give him a whipping.

have to concur hagler really only took it for me over the last couple of rounds. It was a very close competitive fight and only a dumbass troll would think it was some one way beating

foxy01 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

foxy01 wrote:
" Tis far better to let people think you a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it."

You violate this every time you touch your keyboard.

Its no wonder you only write blogs as opposed to working for the more established boxing journals if that is the best you can come up with.

In fact for someone who has pretensions of being a wordsmith, you should know the difference between violate, and verify.

Go back to school, and come again when you have even a semblance of a clue as to what you are talking about.

Lol!!! Saad a wordsmith. he really is the most charmless fellow with all the charisma of a wet trout. He argues and bickers with people on every thread and lacks the ability to be fair and impartial , hardly good qualities for a writer. Oh and he writes like a 5 year old more used to crayons. Than again these days anyone can be a writer on the net so why not Saad!

mugabi wrote:

klompton wrote:I thought the fight was razor thin. Anyone who thinks that Hagler had a FIVE round lead doesnt know jack about boxing. Hagler looked like he was in the ring with his stepdaddy that night -scared Duran was gonna take off his belt and give him a whipping.

have to concur hagler really only took it for me over the last couple of rounds. It was a very close competitive fight and only a dumbass troll would think it was some one way beating

How is saying Hagler was up 7-5 through 12 and that he won the last 3 to wind up winning 10-5 tantamount to saying it was a one way beating?

Totally regardless of fight strategies, if Hagler had shown up in the same mental state he was in for the Hearns fight, I really don't believe Duran would have seen the 10th round. When Marvelous Marvin Hagler has to win a fight on the basis that he was simply the busier guy, there's no way around being disappointed in him.

mugabi wrote:

foxy01 wrote:
Its no wonder you only write blogs as opposed to working for the more established boxing journals if that is the best you can come up with.

In fact for someone who has pretensions of being a wordsmith, you should know the difference between violate, and verify.

Go back to school, and come again when you have even a semblance of a clue as to what you are talking about.

Lol!!! Saad a wordsmith. he really is the most charmless fellow with all the charisma of a wet trout. He argues and bickers with people on every thread and lacks the ability to be fair and impartial , hardly good qualities for a writer. Oh and he writes like a 5 year old more used to crayons. Than again these days anyone can be a writer on the net so why not Saad!

LOL! Saad, you should turn that blog into Pay-per-Read. Guys like Foxy and mugabi would make you rich. You'd be the boxing blogs equivalent of Floyd.

foxy01 wrote:

mugabi wrote:]



Lol!!! Saad a wordsmith. he really is the most charmless fellow with all the charisma of a wet trout. He argues and bickers with people on every thread and lacks the ability to be fair and impartial , hardly good qualities for a writer. Oh and he writes like a 5 year old more used to crayons. Than again these days anyone can be a writer on the net so why not Saad!

Hopefully the pond life filth will stick to his promise and never answer my posts again. He has the intelligence of an amoeba, and somehow contrives to be less significant. Your observations are of course correct, but they are merely the tip of the iceberg. A more obnoxious specimen of scum would be harder to find, than the aforementioned nonentity.
The most hilarious thing about it for me is the way it thinks it is a better judge of fights than official judges, and not just about the occasional fight, but lots of them. If the organisers of a local beauty pagaent allowed the fool to even judge that you would need to call their intelligence into question.

You are what i would consider a true wordsmith Foxy and so understated with it. Yes indeed Saad has long been the arseholes arsehole. The scumbags scumbag. A man who could start a riot in an empty house. Strangely effeminate and he hasnt been the same since urineie left him.

Cherrybomb wrote:

mugabi wrote:

foxy01 wrote:
Its no wonder you only write blogs as opposed to working for the more established boxing journals if that is the best you can come up with.

In fact for someone who has pretensions of being a wordsmith, you should know the difference between violate, and verify.

Go back to school, and come again when you have even a semblance of a clue as to what you are talking about.

Lol!!! Saad a wordsmith. he really is the most charmless fellow with all the charisma of a wet trout. He argues and bickers with people on every thread and lacks the ability to be fair and impartial , hardly good qualities for a writer. Oh and he writes like a 5 year old more used to crayons. Than again these days anyone can be a writer on the net so why not Saad!

LOL! Saad, you should turn that blog into Pay-per-Read. Guys like Foxy and mugabi would make you rich. You'd be the boxing blogs equivalent of Floyd.

No doubt, though I wouldn't be surprised if Mugabi is Foxy. I srill thank them for reading.

foxy01 wrote:

Rover wrote: have to concur hagler really only took it for me over the last couple of rounds. It was a very close competitive fight and only a dumbass troll would think it was some one way beating

How is saying Hagler was up 7-5 through 12 and that he won the last 3 to wind up winning 10-5 tantamount to saying it was a one way beating?

Erm, he wasn't. Not on the cards anyway. After 13 two judges had Duran 1 point up, and the other even.[/quote]

Erm, I wasn't referring to the official cards, of which I'm fully aware.

foxy01 wrote:Which only shows the 7 -5 to Hagler after 12 all the more ridiculous, since most observers concurred that Hagler only turned the fight around in the last 2 rounds, with even Duran admitting he was tired at that point.

What do you mean by "most observers"? You've cited the official cards to this point, which I clearly wasn't referencing.

foxy01 wrote:Most observers means exactly what it says. People considered experts in the boxing game, for instance. You know, fighters, trainers, those kind of people. As opposed to fans who THINK they know more than everyone else involved in a fight., or indeed the fight game itself.

Which specific scorecards are you referring to?

foxy01 wrote:Henry, you are trying to hold a reasonable conversation, over the internet, with a retard. I believe they call that a no win situation. Just be happy in the knowledge, that when he aims an ice cream at his mouth, it usually ends up stuck between his eyes.

I'm sorry but anyone who goes from saying 'Hagler was up by five rounds' to 'Hagler won the last three thats not debatable' but wants to grasp on to both ends of the straw, is a moron. Then again, this is coming from a guy who just a day or so ago, claims Spinks was a legitimite heavyweight and was so skilled he could of beaten Holmes at any time, etc. the man sort of man who believes Marciano was a crude, unpolished, overated bum, etc. who for the sake of just having something to say, says anything to get a rise or anyone's attention.

I think compubox numbers on this fight would have been very interesting.

I think Compubox numbers would have shown that the scorecards were ridiculously close, because Duran was well behind in shots landed.

foxy01 wrote:

Rover wrote:

foxy01 wrote:Most observers means exactly what it says. People considered experts in the boxing game, for instance. You know, fighters, trainers, those kind of people. As opposed to fans who THINK they know more than everyone else involved in a fight., or indeed the fight game itself.

Which specific scorecards are you referring to?

What the hell are you waffling about scorecards? The only scorecards that matter are the official ones, whether you like it or not.

Observers are just that, guys from the fight game who watched the fight and stated that Hagler pulled it out in the last couple of rounds, which again, he did whether you think so or not.

Now, i have neither the time or the interest to get into a ten page debate on the validity of your opinion of how the fight went. I am quite happy in the knowledge that the scorecards were correct, and with the genarally agreed concensus that the fight was won in the last 2 rounds.

More generalities. I gave my scorecard. The only thing you've done is respond that the official cards disagreed, a point of which I'm fully aware, and you then provided this "most observers" line. Specifics? Their scorecards? It's one thing for someone to say vaguely "close fight." It's another for someone to give his scorecard.

HomicideHenry wrote:

foxy01 wrote:Henry, you are trying to hold a reasonable conversation, over the internet, with a retard. I believe they call that a no win situation. Just be happy in the knowledge, that when he aims an ice cream at his mouth, it usually ends up stuck between his eyes.

I'm sorry but anyone who goes from saying 'Hagler was up by five rounds' to 'Hagler won the last three thats not debatable' but wants to grasp on to both ends of the straw, is a moron. Then again, this is coming from a guy who just a day or so ago, claims Spinks was a legitimite heavyweight and was so skilled he could of beaten Holmes at any time, etc. the man sort of man who believes Marciano was a crude, unpolished, overated bum, etc. who for the sake of just having something to say, says anything to get a rise or anyone's attention.

I said I had Hagler 10-5 & Hagler definitively won the last 3 rounds. I'm sorry if you're too incredibly stupid to process that.

As for the rest of it. keep making up shit, Cooney lover.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

foxy01 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I own the fight and have seen it enough, it wasn't particularly exciting. No need to watch it again at the urging of a troll. Clear cut Hagler round.

In other words you have been exposed yet again as a self opinionated fraud, who if you knew half as much as you think you do, it would be twice as much as you actually know.

Go away, and stop trolling your worthless spin. You wouldn't know a clear round if it bit you.

You've never had a conversation on this site that isn't argumentative. If you don't like my posts, by all means; stop obsessing over them.

Mind boggling that you can accuse any one else of being 'argumentative':

And most disturbing is how the dozens you have picked pointless arguments with on here you constantly accuse of being one member lol in the past I've alone really been rover, keithhangingmoon foxy and ambling alp to name but a few. You really ought to see a shrink for these delusions and paranoia saad I suppose you also think I'm your mother really on boxrec to give u a hard time . DD

A regular paranoid Bob ain't you saad

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:


I said I had Hagler 10-5 & Hagler definitively won the last 3 rounds. I'm sorry if you're too incredibly stupid to process that.

As for the rest of it. keep making up shit, Cooney lover.

That still has Hagler up by 5 rounds. As for the 'other' shit, whenever I remotely put my two cents in on Ali, you come in like you have to save Ali's legacy. I write something on Marciano, you take a shit all over it. I say Cooney was in a very competitive fight, you shit all over Cooney and at the same breath talk up Spinks, and laugh when I say Spinks only picked to fight Holmes cus he was on his way out. How else am I to take it other than you being a troll, when all I say is closer to the truth than the way you're trying to portray it as being?

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:


I said I had Hagler 10-5 & Hagler definitively won the last 3 rounds. I'm sorry if you're too incredibly stupid to process that.

As for the rest of it. keep making up shit, Cooney lover.

That still has Hagler up by 5 rounds. As for the 'other' shit, whenever I remotely put my two cents in on Ali, you come in like you have to save Ali's legacy. I write something on Marciano, you take a shit all over it. I say Cooney was in a very competitive fight, you shit all over Cooney and at the same breath talk up Spinks, and laugh when I say Spinks only picked to fight Holmes cus he was on his way out. How else am I to take it other than you being a troll, when all I say is closer to the truth than the way you're trying to portray it as being?

Yeah, I had Hagler up by five rounds. I never said it wasn't a close fight or there weren't rounds that could have gone the other way. I said your draw card was weak and Marvin definitely won the 13th round.

The other points are pure bullshit. You're ridiculously biased against Ali, I've been called the same by his super fans on this site.

I've never called Marciano a bum. I'll bet you $1,000 against $1 you can't quote that.

I said Spinks beats any version of Cooney, you say I said he beats any version of Holmes.

I don't give a fornicate how you take it. If you're not articulate or versed enough to deal with my actual words. Don't try and have a conversation with someone who owns you. Feel free to call me an asshole, the only people that call me a troll are trolls or frustrated folks that can't handle when I poke holes in their silly points. You may be both.

I sent you a pm and you responded in here with more made up shit. Typical internet buffoon.

Ouch, talk about a poor sample group.

Just rewatched the 13th and once again it was one of those rounds where Hagler just did a little more.