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I don't kiss no ones arse you fornicating clown, I'm a mate of Carl's and am agreeing he is not a journeyman has you said he is and is a dangerous fighter, he should be remembered has being a former British champion, how's that kissing someone's arse ?

Boxingcutsman wrote:Who you talking too ? He didn't say what you said, I don't kiss no ones arse you effing clown, I'm a mate of Carl's and am agreeing he is not a journeyman has you said he is and is a dangerous fighter, he should be remembered has being a former British champion, how's that kissing someone's arse ?

So where did carl say hes not a journeyman ???

He admitted shanes heart is no longer in it didnt he ?

Hes still boxing isnt he ?

So hes therfor taking bouts when hes not training the same as he was , hes not motivated the same as he was etc , so if thats not a journeyman then what is ?

He may not be a Kristian Laight or Sid Razak type but nonetheless a spade is a spade .

as i already said this isnt a stab at shane whatsover , its more that your bigging up keane as the heralded saviour of the cruiserweight division for stopping shane , when i responded that shane felt if he was fit and motivated it may have been a different story , thats what you was refuting and thats what i had the issue with , and yet you have the nerve to call me a clown ...... , get over yourself dude , like i said before , if keane is the real deal he will show us that , but trying to big his acheivements thus far to a boxing forum is a bit daft , as we know on here what the crack is , you may be able to do it with joe public casual fans but not those who actually know what theyre looking at .

I wish keane all the best in the future , theres a time for bigging someone up , and theres a time for keeping their feet on the ground , your not at the bigging up stage with him just yet in my opinion .

Looking On wrote:

Boxingcutsman wrote:Who you talking too ? He didn't say what you said, I don't kiss no ones arse you effing clown, I'm a mate of Carl's and am agreeing he is not a journeyman has you said he is and is a dangerous fighter, he should be remembered has being a former British champion, how's that kissing someone's arse ?

So where did carl say hes not a journeyman ???

He admitted shanes heart is no longer in it didnt he ?

Hes still boxing isnt he ?

So hes therfor taking bouts when hes not training the same as he was , hes not motivated the same as he was etc , so if thats not a journeyman then what is ?

He may not be a Kristian Laight or Sid Razak type but nonetheless a spade is a spade .

as i already said this isnt a stab at shane whatsover , its more that your bigging up keane as the heralded saviour of the cruiserweight division for stopping shane , when i responded that shane felt if he was fit and motivated it may have been a different story , thats what you was refuting and thats what i had the issue with , and yet you have the nerve to call me a clown ...... , get over yourself dude , like i said before , if keane is the real deal he will show us that , but trying to big his acheivements thus far to a boxing forum is a bit daft , as we know on here what the crack is , you may be able to do it with joe public casual fans but not those who actually know what theyre looking at .

I wish keane all the best in the future , theres a time for bigging someone up , and theres a time for keeping their feet on the ground , your not at the bigging up stage with him just yet in my opinion .

Ok Mr.Boxing, when your next at a show and Chris is on come over and introduce yourself and give us your opinion and where you feel Chris and us are going wrong or could improve, your expert advice will be greatly appreciated has you have stated you are not like Joe public & know what your looking at

Because you obviously know more than Derrick Chisora & Don Charles, Vince & Nathan Cleverly, Steve Bunce, Barry Jones, Enzo Maccranelli to name but a few who also like me think Chris is a bit special

And I'm not bigging up or heralding Chris has the big saviour of the Cruiserweight division for stopping Shane at all, if his heart hasn't been in it before his Fight with Chris and since like you say and Chris isn't all that or caught him at the right time then why couldn't JLD or Edwards stop him ?

I'm bigging Chris up because I know he has all the tools to go far.
Chris was ABA & Nations heavyweight champion and only the 2nd in history to knock out all his opponents in the ABA's, he also won CYP's and few other tournaments and all in only 23 fights, that is amazing.

And believe me we are very very down to earth grounded people, anyone who knows us knows that, I am just very confident in my fighter and rightly so otherwise it wouldn't work.

greavsie wrote:As Shane's manager it has been very frustrating and since the Enzo fight his hearts just not been in it can you imagine knocking a former world champion down having him gone then the bell rings 47 seconds early the lad was just robbed blind and I truly believe there was more to all of this than the timekeeper making a mistake and on top of all that Enzo goes onto fail a drugs test and the board don't even do the decent think and rule the fight a no contest and give Shane the British title back. It made a huge difference to his purse not going into the JLD fight as champion. Shane will never be a great fighter to watch but when he trains and has a bit of fire in his belly he can be very dangerous but unfortunately since the Enzo fight its just not been there if you can remember him winning the British title at 2 weeks notice having Enzo in all sorts of trouble and doing well in the heavyweight prizefighter instead of his last 3 performances I'd be very grateful.

I interviewed Shane at the time and he was excited / slightly apprehensive about fighting a world champ, and I told him, that if he put those heavier shots together and went for it, he would reap the rewards.

He put the shots together, he went for it - and then got stiffed !!

I found it ridiculous that in this day and age, that he was duped out of his belt (which he was very proud of) and nobody did a damn thing about it. It still rankles me to this day for him.

I'm not surprised he lost his mojo. He'd always played at the pro game, but winning the title made him think "hang on, maybe I can make something of this" and a win over Enzo Macc would have cemented that thought.

Instead it broke him and the results ever since have reflected that.

G0mez wrote:
I interviewed Shane at the time and he was excited / slightly apprehensive about fighting a world champ, and I told him, that if he put those heavier shots together and went for it, he would reap the rewards.

He put the shots together, he went for it - and then got stiffed !!

I found it ridiculous that in this day and age, that he was duped out of his belt (which he was very proud of) and nobody did a damn thing about it. It still rankles me to this day for him.

I'm not surprised he lost his mojo. He'd always played at the pro game, but winning the title made him think "hang on, maybe I can make something of this" and a win over Enzo Macc would have cemented that thought.

Instead it broke him and the results ever since have reflected that.

Spot on. That really says it all. At the point he started believing he was fvucked over and has never been the same. I know after the Keane fight he was hurting and he told me he had let himself down and would love a rematch. Shane is a top bloke, always truthful and great company. If he just wants to earn a few quid at the game so be it. He was British Champ and it'll be in the history books for all time, he lived the dream for a very brief moment in time which is something to be very proud of indeed.

greavsie wrote:As Shane's manager it has been very frustrating and since the Enzo fight his hearts just not been in it can you imagine knocking a former world champion down having him gone then the bell rings 47 seconds early the lad was just robbed blind and I truly believe there was more to all of this than the timekeeper making a mistake and on top of all that Enzo goes onto fail a drugs test and the board don't even do the decent think and rule the fight a no contest and give Shane the British title back. It made a huge difference to his purse not going into the JLD fight as champion.

It was totally disgraceful. I can fully understand how the whole sorry affair would totally demotivate a fighter.

The eerily apathetic reaction to it by some of the supposed 'pillars of the boxing press' made me feel f**king sick too.