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Deno1986 wrote:

MachoMan09 wrote:Scenario A: Rabbit in the headlights like Lewis - Golota. Haye TKO1 Fury.
Scenario B: Cautious Haye start followed by a second or third round stoppage.

I don't think Fury is ready and he hasn't got passed Cunningham yet.

I can't see why people are looking past Cunningham either. Fair enough, he is a natural cruiser but he won't be a pushover. He is a wily fox that knows his way around a ring. He will be a lot busier than Kingpin was and it will be a tough night for Tyson. Definitely value there for the gamblers.

Disagree i cant see anything cunningham has that will trouble Fury. Fury's jab is going to cause him mares.

I'm going to be the odd 1 out, but i think Fury could take this.

Haye isn't likely to be as scared/ cautious as he was against Wlad & Valuev or even Harrison , and he will look to throw bombs in the guestimation Fury's chin is poor (PAJKIC & AMERICAN GUY?)

I see Fury applying constant attacking pressure which means Haye is throwing wild shots, and wearing him out down the stretch possibly even stopping him.

Haye looked fecked after a few rounds with Del boy.

mickey1975 wrote:

ScottDetonator wrote:Let's not beat about the bush, Fury has been matched very wisely to protect his unbeaten record. He's not ready for the Klitschko's or Haye but if he keeps on talking like he is, surely he'll have to back it up at some point.

So sticking him in with a seasoned McDermott in his 8tth fight and an unbeaten Chisora for the British title in his 14th is protecting him? Matched very, very well for someone so young.

Yes, earlier in Fury's career he fought an 18 stone John McDermott (many say lost) and an out of shape Chisora also around the 18 stone mark.

I actually meant that he had been protected lately - Martin Rogan, Vinny Maddalone, Kevin Johnson, Cruiserweight Steve Cunningham... We can't argue that he has been matched well.

Haye is a total league above.

mullenman wrote: if it comes off it will be the biggest fight britain has ever seen at heavyweight

Really? What about Lewis Vs Bruno?

What chance does Fury have against Haye? None, basically, and I'm Haye's biggest critic.

Deserter wrote:

mullenman wrote: if it comes off it will be the biggest fight britain has ever seen at heavyweight

Really? What about Lewis Vs Bruno?

yeah im not sure it would be as big as Audley v Haye or chisora v haye either.

It's certainly not bigger than Lewis - Bruno. Not even close.

Quite an exciting scrap this , the build up would be wild and Fury would have a proper go and the sound he would make as his gigantic frame hits the canvas thooom! . I'm in.

MachoMan09 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:I know it does not work like this, but.... Fury pissed it really against Chisora, who then took Haye 6 and now Fury gets bombed out whenever Haye feels like it?

That's the point, comparing fighters on he beat, she beat alone doesn't work.

I think Fury would do better against Wlad than Haye. But I think Haye would blow Fury away.

I like what you are saying! makes sense

I think Haye will likely be looking to face Povetkin for the belt, Huck to increase his stake in Germany or possibly one of the yanks to get the fame in the US and the backing of the tv companies (thats if anyones good enough but i can really see it), possibly arreola.

If he wants to force a manditory its unlikely he will be looking to fight Tyson unless it gets him something he wants.

if the ghost of Carl Thompson can stop Haye, so can Fury. Fury also has the height to keep Haye outside like Wlad did. Chances are Haye does dust him early, but it's far from impossible for Fury to win this.

The David Haye promotion machine in full swing just like vs Harrison. The way he markets himself is brilliant - OK so he was extremely disappointing in his career defining fight, failing to attack Wlad who has the power to make him cautious.

Problem is we all remember that fight when starting to believe Fury has a shot - Haye will build the hype with these well placed newspaper articles now he knows that Fury is out there alone as the #1 British HW, to the point that we think it's a competitive fight. I for one expect to realise as the fights gets underway that Haye is a level above Fury at this stage and that we've been duped into buying it. Haye was gassing out against Chisora and Fury's stamina is better...? Fury has a decent jab but he'll need it all 12 cause it's over when Haye lands IMO.

HomicideHenry wrote:LETS DO IT!!!!!

How's your career coming along Rufus?

I remember last year you said you had 2 fights lined up.

They still lined up?

I'll be putting my money on Fury if it happens.

Haye vs Fury
Price vs Chisora
Harrison vs Sprott III
McDermott vs Towers
Skelton vs Rogan II

This could be a great year for British heavyweight fights.

Yawn , apart from haye fury who wants to watch the other yawnathons you mentioned ? Not me, Infact whole your at it why not line up Scott welch Henry akinwande 2 to make things really interesting

the truth wrote:Yawn , apart from haye fury who wants to watch the other yawnathons you mentioned ? Not me, Infact whole your at it why not line up Scott welch Henry akinwande 2 to make things really interesting

The British heavyweight division is as exciting as hell.

If Britain unleashed its boxing potential I'd faint with pleasure.

Haye was certainly looking tired versus Chisora, but Del-Boy is a big strong aggressive bloke going straight at him. Fury will have to box, he doesn't have the chin to stay in Haye's face. Chisora turned out not to have the chin to stay on Haye, and Chisora has a great chin.

Fury will try box and the handspeed and KO power will be the perfect recipe for another 7ft novelty fighter.

Incidentally, I don't believe this fight will be happening at all.

loaded_gloves wrote:Haye was certainly looking tired versus Chisora, but Del-Boy is a big strong aggressive bloke going straight at him. Fury will have to box, he doesn't have the chin to stay in Haye's face. Chisora turned out not to have the chin to stay on Haye, and Chisora has a great chin.

Fury will try box and the handspeed and KO power will be the perfect recipe for another 7ft novelty fighter.

Incidentally, I don't believe this fight will be happening at all.

And incidentally, the handspeed and KO power barely landed a meaningful punch on the last 7ft novelty fighter. Have you seen that fight?

Do you mean Wladimir or Nikolay?

I think we all agree Fury will be more aggressive than Wladimir, and thus action will happen.

Chisora forced the fight and look what happened. I'm sure Haye would have preferred a fight where he potshotted to a tepid points decision, but Chisora made it lively and Haye had no choice but to respond.

I don't think Fury has the chin or defensive capabilities to last with Haye, and I think he is ballsy enough, perhaps deluded enough, to force the fight.

loaded_gloves wrote:Do you mean Wladimir or Nikolay?

I think we all agree Fury will be more aggressive than Wladimir, and thus action will happen.

Chisora forced the fight and look what happened. I'm sure Haye would have preferred a fight where he potshotted to a tepid points decision, but Chisora made it lively and Haye had no choice but to respond.

I don't think Fury has the chin or defensive capabilities to last with Haye, and I think he is ballsy enough, perhaps deluded enough, to force the fight.

Both, he threw nothing against either, one punch each fight. Did you see Fury-Johnson? Why didnt he rush into him all guns blazing? Or Rogan? Peter would no way let him force the fight with Haye.

sharpei_louis wrote:The David Haye promotion machine in full swing just like vs Harrison. The way he markets himself is brilliant - OK so he was extremely disappointing in his career defining fight, failing to attack Wlad who has the power to make him cautious.

Problem is we all remember that fight when starting to believe Fury has a shot - Haye will build the hype with these well placed newspaper articles now he knows that Fury is out there alone as the #1 British HW, to the point that we think it's a competitive fight. I for one expect to realise as the fights gets underway that Haye is a level above Fury at this stage and that we've been duped into buying it. Haye was gassing out against Chisora and Fury's stamina is better...? Fury has a decent jab but he'll need it all 12 cause it's over when Haye lands IMO.

Good post. Haye has earnt millions from two fights where he was clearly a level above his domestic opponent.

This could follow a similar pattern.

I like Tyson, I really do but he is made for Haye. Stand up tall fighter, with very questionable power who is fairly easy to hit. Timberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

I can actually see this fight happening. People say its lose-lose for both but I think Fury would probably earn just as much fr fighting Haye as he would for fighting Vitali or Wlad. Imagine the hype over here for Haye-Fury? Haye talks about Klits only but why would he turn down the chance of another couple of million and another period in the limelight? Also do well for his standing and any potential fight with a Povetkin or rematch with Wlad etc if he beats anither contender etc

mickey1975 wrote:

loaded_gloves wrote:Do you mean Wladimir or Nikolay?

I think we all agree Fury will be more aggressive than Wladimir, and thus action will happen.

Chisora forced the fight and look what happened. I'm sure Haye would have preferred a fight where he potshotted to a tepid points decision, but Chisora made it lively and Haye had no choice but to respond.

I don't think Fury has the chin or defensive capabilities to last with Haye, and I think he is ballsy enough, perhaps deluded enough, to force the fight.

Both, he threw nothing against either, one punch each fight. Did you see Fury-Johnson? Why didnt he rush into him all guns blazing? Or Rogan? Peter would no way let him force the fight with Haye.

Johnson is a jabbing, counter puncher with zero power. Rogan is an old, old, old man who was barely European level in his prime.

Haye is far, far more explosive, technically gifted offensive fighter than these two put together.

It's like playing league one teams in preparation for a match against Chelsea.

So your saying he will have him rush into Haye when he did not with Rogan and Johnson?

mickey1975 wrote:So your saying he will have him rush into Haye when he did not with Rogan and Johnson?

No

Rogan nor Johnson had the ability or athleticism to close the gap sufficiently. Fury's footwork isn't as light or as fast as Wlad's.
Its closer to the level of say Audley or Maccarinelli.

Fury's chance depends purely on his punch resistance in this one. If he can stand up to Haye's power he may be able to wear him down.

Man, I never thought I'd live long enough to see the day when anyone considered a 20-0 British heavyweight as a serious threat to the heavyweight champion, regardless of who he was. I'll bet Joe Bugner is wishing he was 25 again.

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