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Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 15:00
by $eif
silkov wrote:Hide has never beaten top notch competition, probably his best win was over Micheal Bentt who ofcourse was injured going into the fight. While Hide had talent with speed and power he lacked a strong mental approach and his defence and chin have always been sadly lacking.
The next halfway decent punch he takes will ko him and I think Hide knows this hence his erratic behaviour.... he knows he can't take a punch... and glass chins don't improve with age either!....
That`s my point "Hide has never beaten top notch competition"
:lol:

Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 15:26
by Matchfixer
Don't know if this has been mentioned already but Hide is ranked 275 (one place below Kulikauskas!!!) in the world now by Boxrec.

It is ridicuolous to put a fighter below someone just because they have suffered a defeat (a dubious one in this case) to them as it ignores everything they have achieved prior to the fight.

Mark Krence is 155 :o , Keith Long is 184 , Julius Francis is 214 just to put this into perspective.

I know rankings have there flaws but honestly... Hide is better than that!

Posted: 31 Mar 2004, 06:53
by J
debatable.

Posted: 31 Mar 2004, 10:02
by bigynzing
Matchfixer wrote:Don't know if this has been mentioned already but Hide is ranked 275 (one place below Kulikauskas!!!) in the world now by Boxrec.

It is ridicuolous to put a fighter below someone just because they have suffered a defeat (a dubious one in this case) to them as it ignores everything they have achieved prior to the fight.

Mark Krence is 155 :o , Keith Long is 184 , Julius Francis is 214 just to put this into perspective.

I know rankings have there flaws but honestly... Hide is better than that!
I think Herbie is actually ranked about 40 something...its his chin thats ranked 214... :wink:

Posted: 31 Mar 2004, 14:29
by overhand_right
i wouldnt pick herbie hide over a tough american journeyman.

american journeyman are way tougher than the pathetic european stiffs hide has been failing to dominate in his comeback.

the best of them, joseph chingangu, (a zambian) annihilated him. fair play, herbie paid him back in the rematch but it should never have happened in the 1st place.

Posted: 31 Mar 2004, 17:36
by bigynzing
in fairness to Herbie...the ref shouted break...and then...Wallop...herbie`s in a crumpled heap....of course the fact that Herbie cant put on a hat without hitting the deck had someting to do with it.