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Locche's performance was clearly greater. I thought that was what you were talking about.

Il Duce wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Locche's performance was clearly greater. I thought that was what you were talking about.

Are you talking about Nicolino vs Antonio Cervantes I.

That was a great performance, but Nicolino was the WBA Champion and Antonio was 'not' considered great just yet...

Yes, who cares who the champion was?

Disagree.

Il Duce wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Disagree.

As of March 1973 and earlier,,,,,,,what was better....quickly come up with one.........

LOL, I already said Locche over Cervantes was better. That left a mystery?

Il Duce wrote:Nicolino Locche over Antonio Cervantes,,,,,,,,

How can you make that statement,,,,,,,,,,,,, without ever seeing the bout,,,,,,,,,????

1) Salvador Sanchez KO 8 Wilfredo Gomez
2) Muhammad Ali KO 8 George Foreman
3) Pernell Whitaker D 12 Julio Cesar Chavez

Chango Carmona butchering Mando Ramos in 8 at the L.A. Coliseum and winning the WBC lightweight title. Sure, the drug addicted Ramos was washed-up at the time, but no one truly realized it yet. Carmona looked devastating and unstoppable, until....
Just 2 months later the heavily favored Carmona goes up against underrated Rodolfo Gonzalez and loses just about every round on way to a 12th round stoppage and the loss of the title. Just a stunning reversal of form in less than 60 days.

Gomez was pretty much designed to lose to Sanchez.

SenorPipino wrote:Chango Carmona butchering Mando Ramos in 8 at the L.A. Coliseum and winning the WBC lightweight title. Sure, the drug addicted Ramos was washed-up at the time, but no one truly realized it yet. Carmona looked devastating and unstoppable, until....
Just 2 months later the heavily favored Carmona goes up against underrated Rodolfo Gonzalez and loses just about every round on way to a 12th round stoppage and the loss of the title. Just a stunning reversal of form in less than 60 days.

Didn't see Carmona/Ramos, but Gonzalez/Carmona is a beautiful display from an incredibly overlooked fighter.

King Carlos wrote:

SenorPipino wrote:Chango Carmona butchering Mando Ramos in 8 at the L.A. Coliseum and winning the WBC lightweight title. Sure, the drug addicted Ramos was washed-up at the time, but no one truly realized it yet. Carmona looked devastating and unstoppable, until....
Just 2 months later the heavily favored Carmona goes up against underrated Rodolfo Gonzalez and loses just about every round on way to a 12th round stoppage and the loss of the title. Just a stunning reversal of form in less than 60 days.

Didn't see Carmona/Ramos, but Gonzalez/Carmona is a beautiful display from an incredibly overlooked fighter.

I'm sorry I saw Carmona/Ramos. Mando was my first boxing hero.

Hagler vs Hearns

Il Duce wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Disagree.

As of March 1973 and earlier,,,,,,,what was better....quickly come up with one.........

Can't tell you it was necessarily better, but as far as South American fighters go, Monzon's gradual dismantling of Benvenuti in 1970 was pretty impressive. I was a youngster at the time and a fan of Benvenuti, but Monzon put on a pretty impressive performance.

Il Duce wrote:Giacomino,,,,,

Yes, Carlos Monzon over Nino Benvenuti was 'impressive', but Nino had struggled in a few
recent bouts and was 'not' considered to be as dominant as he once was.

But, Nino was defending his Title at the Palazzetto dello Sport (Italy), and he had never
lost in his 'home country',,,,,,,so that must be added to the equation.

Yeah, as we look back Nino was clearly on the slide, but he was still highly thought of at the time and Monzon was unknown outside of South American. That fight made me a huge fan of Monzon and he's still one of my favorite fighters ever. Nino, IMO, is underrated in historic rankings.
Do you know where Monzon was ranked by The Ring at the time? I can't remember

Have to go with Leonard's win over Hagler. He had not had a bout in 3 years, (only 1 in the previous 5) had never weighed that much for a fight, and he beat a great fighter.
Leonard and others had other fights where they looked better. However considering the circumstances, that was the most impressive.

Seriously? First of all, it's completely irrelevant that could speak English, was from Uruguay, what happens at a press conference, or that Howard Cosell called Ali pathetic.
Made Ali look like an embarrassment to the sport? Really? Even if that somehow was true, what does that say about the guy who lost to him?

It is impressive that a fighter with that little experience went 15 rounds. That is about all he did. Evangelista certainly did not look very good. To consider this the Greatest Ring Performance in the last 50 years is beyond ridiculaus.

Ambling Alp II wrote:Have to go with Leonard's win over Hagler. He had not had a bout in 3 years, (only 1 in the previous 5) had never weighed that much for a fight, and he beat a great fighter.
Leonard and others had other fights where they looked better. However considering the circumstances, that was the most impressive.

Agreed. Amazing performance.

Holmes v Norton
Buster Douglas v Mike Tyson
Marvin Hagler v mustafa hamsho 2
Marvin Hagler v Tommy Hearns


couldnt pick one out of these