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Thinking about it more, I think it's quite possible tomorrow's PC will just be announcing his plans and dates etc. Opponent could well not be until nearer the time.

Papers are saying Thompson or Charr. I don't fancy the chances of either of them.

Getting a bit boring now.... he'll be catching Sugar Ray Leonard on the amount of retirements / comebacks etc.

Just thinking about how many decent fights he could have been in between Wladimir and now had he fought more regularly.

According to this, Haye may be fighting age 41 journeyman Jovo Pudar:

http://www.boxingbet.pl/artykul-2799/jo ... wali-hayea

i have heard that when they sparred haye absolutely 'mullered' helenius....so god knows what damage the hayemaker will do with reyes gloves!

MachoMan09 wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:According to this, Haye may be fighting age 41 journeyman Jovo Pudar:

http://www.boxingbet.pl/artykul-2799/jo ... wali-hayea

Pudar is in the WBA rankings. Is there any way that Haye has been tipped the wink that Povetkin is going to somehow vacate or be stripped of his belt between Thursday and the end of June and that a match versus Pudar could be upgraded to a title fight?

Last I heard the WBA had set a deadline of 31st August for Wlad-Povetkin to be made. IF that goes to schedule (I think it's unlikely), perhaps Haye is lining up Pudar as a tune up for an October fight for the WBA's second tier title - which I'm assuming would become vacant as soon as Povetkin fought Klitschko.

If that all happened, and he won both fights of course, he'd become WBA mandatory. The only problem with that is they only enforce mandatories every 18 months, so he would have to wait an age.

I still think the WBO route is the quickest, and therefore best, route to forcing a mandatory Klitschko fight.

Jack B wrote:

MachoMan09 wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:According to this, Haye may be fighting age 41 journeyman Jovo Pudar:

http://www.boxingbet.pl/artykul-2799/jo ... wali-hayea

Pudar is in the WBA rankings. Is there any way that Haye has been tipped the wink that Povetkin is going to somehow vacate or be stripped of his belt between Thursday and the end of June and that a match versus Pudar could be upgraded to a title fight?

Last I heard the WBA had set a deadline of 31st August for Wlad-Povetkin to be made. IF that goes to schedule (I think it's unlikely), perhaps Haye is lining up Pudar as a tune up for an October fight for the WBA's second tier title - which I'm assuming would become vacant as soon as Povetkin fought Klitschko.

If that all happened, and he won both fights of course, he'd become WBA mandatory. The only problem with that is they only enforce mandatories every 18 months, so he would have to wait an age.

I still think the WBO route is the quickest, and therefore best, route to forcing a mandatory Klitschko fight.

I dont think haye is going for the mandatory route i think he's going to use public opinion, media and tv companies power to force the klits into fighting him. He will need to fight opponents with names to do that.

expect one of these 5.

1. adamek
2. Chagaev
3. Oquendo
4. Tony Grano
5. luis ortiz

povetkin likley to fight wladimir end of july or august so it werent be him.

Finn wrote: I dont think haye is going for the mandatory route i think he's going to use public opinion, media and tv companies power to force the klits into fighting him. He will need to fight opponents with names to do that.

Hasn't he spent the last 18+ months doing that? With no success? I was of the opinion that he thinks becoming mandatory is the only way the Klitschko's will fight him.

rhino222 wrote:i have heard that when they sparred haye absolutely 'mullered' helenius....so god knows what damage the hayemaker will do with reyes gloves!

He wears grants has done pretty much his whole career apart from fragomeni when he wore winning (bad hands for that fight?)

dammage7 wrote:expect one of these 5.

1. adamek
2. Chagaev
3. Oquendo
4. Tony Grano
5. luis ortiz

povetkin likley to fight wladimir end of july or august so it werent be him.

Chagaev might not get licenced due to his hepatitis

leforge wrote:

dammage7 wrote:expect one of these 5.

1. adamek
2. Chagaev
3. Oquendo
4. Tony Grano
5. luis ortiz

povetkin likley to fight wladimir end of july or august so it werent be him.

Chagaev might not get licenced due to his hepatitis

yeah wont be Chagaev

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leforge wrote:

dammage7 wrote:expect one of these 5.

1. adamek
2. Chagaev
3. Oquendo
4. Tony Grano
5. luis ortiz

povetkin likley to fight wladimir end of july or august so it werent be him.

Chagaev might not get licenced due to his hepatitis

yeah wont be Chagaev

I thought he was pals with Oquendo. If it aint Adamek it going to be poor fight,

leforge wrote: I thought he was pals with Oquendo. If it aint Adamek it going to be poor fight,

Adamek's just parted with Main Events, free agent? Anyhow Povetkin or Pulev would be just as good as Adamek for me.

Final round wrote:

leforge wrote: I thought he was pals with Oquendo. If it aint Adamek it going to be poor fight,

Adamek's just parted with Main Events, free agent? Anyhow Povetkin or Pulev would be just as good as Adamek for me.

Povetkin going after Wlad. Pulev would be good fight bit too risky for Haye.

leforge wrote:

Final round wrote:

leforge wrote: I thought he was pals with Oquendo. If it aint Adamek it going to be poor fight,

Adamek's just parted with Main Events, free agent? Anyhow Povetkin or Pulev would be just as good as Adamek for me.

Povetkin going after Wlad. Pulev would be good fight bit too risky for Haye.

Yeah Pulev is a very dangerous fight, fast hands and proper heavy, it would be good.. Shame about Povetkin I think Haye would chop him down.

dammage7 wrote:expect one of these 5.

1. adamek
2. Chagaev
3. Oquendo
4. Tony Grano
5. luis ortiz

povetkin likley to fight wladimir end of july or august so it werent be him.

None of the above.

Charr.

MarkMcBurney wrote:Charr.

Yes, two sugars please.

Final round wrote:

MarkMcBurney wrote:Charr.

Yes, two sugars please.

MacTavish wrote:

Final round wrote:

MarkMcBurney wrote:Charr.

Yes, two sugars please.

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adam booth said it could be five different opponents all in the top 15
four of these opponents are unbeaten so here is his list:

alexander povetkin,, who wont take the fight
robert helenius,, chance of him and haye would smash his face in
denis boystov,, very padded record
kubrat pulev,, would be a great fight
plus one other,, probably solis who has beaten haye many years ago and would be a good rematch

There are approximately 40 different heavyweights in the top 15 rankings of the major organisations, not exactly narrowing it down

mullenman wrote:adam booth said it could be five different opponents all in the top 15
four of these opponents are unbeaten so here is his list:

alexander povetkin,, who wont take the fight
robert helenius,, chance of him and haye would smash his face in
denis boystov,, very padded record
kubrat pulev,, would be a great fight
plus one other,, probably solis who has beaten haye many years ago and would be a good rematch

I'd bet against it being any of those.

Povetkin - only if he's forced into the match
Helenius - he's taking the slow route back to the top of the ranks, he's still unbeaten so there's value in keeping him that way but his people have seen his limitations so putting him in with haye wouldn't be wise. i'd expect him to face haye if a world title was a stake but otherwise, no. if he stays unbeaten he'll get a world title fight anyway later this year or in 2014
Boystov - ongoing legal problems with promoter, no chance of him taking the fight
Pulev - he's got his own route to the IBF mandatory slot and doesn't need to fight Haye to get a world title fight

JimJim2009 wrote:

mullenman wrote:adam booth said it could be five different opponents all in the top 15
four of these opponents are unbeaten so here is his list:

alexander povetkin,, who wont take the fight
robert helenius,, chance of him and haye would smash his face in
denis boystov,, very padded record
kubrat pulev,, would be a great fight
plus one other,, probably solis who has beaten haye many years ago and would be a good rematch

I'd bet against it being any of those.

Povetkin - only if he's forced into the match
Helenius - he's taking the slow route back to the top of the ranks, he's still unbeaten so there's value in keeping him that way but his people have seen his limitations so putting him in with haye wouldn't be wise. i'd expect him to face haye if a world title was a stake but otherwise, no. if he stays unbeaten he'll get a world title fight anyway later this year or in 2014
Boystov - ongoing legal problems with promoter, no chance of him taking the fight
Pulev - he's got his own route to the IBF mandatory slot and doesn't need to fight Haye to get a world title fight

Adamek or Helenius id be happy with (i would cry if its povetkin), i dont think helenius would be daft enough to take that fight though. However if he is looking for the mandatory shot at Vitali these are the top ranked with the WBC.
Arreola - fighting stivern
Stivern - fighting arreola
Banks - would be someone i think they will be targeting but may a have a rematch clause with mitchell, would they care though.
Fury - Possible however i think Fury should be avoiding this fight for now he's got his own route to the top.
Grano - I think have will be going for a bigger name
Pulev - Great fight but i think he's unlikely to want to fight haye in the UK
Charr - This fight stinks and id be surprised if haye wants to fight someone already pulverised by a klit
Price - Fighting Thompson in July
Abduslavamovoomovaslav - who?