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MarkMcBurney wrote:Is P4P a recent form guide or a question of who is the better fighter regardless of weight? Most of that list have had better wins that Haye over the past couple of years - he's only beaten Chisora in the last two years. On that basis he should be about 40th.

Recent form is important, but older career achievements are considered.

I would say less than half the list has a better single win than Haye's Chisora win in the last 2 years.

MarkMcBurney wrote: or a question of who is the better fighter regardless of weight? ...

this is how i view a P4P list

thats why i brought up Khan/Burns.... simerlar weights anyway.... & i think Khan would muller him & also has the better resume

therefore, in my eyes be above him

GOOD LIST though !

Crazyboy wrote:Macdonnell should be above Barker i think,

McDonnell's only win in the last year is against Zamora which isn't particularly good. Barker has been tested at the highest level and has the better recent record, so I think he deserves to be higher.

Crazyboy wrote:Thanks for doing the list though as always.

sweetscience wrote:this is how i view a P4P list

thats why i brought up Khan/Burns.... simerlar weights anyway.... & i think Khan would muller him & also has the better resume

therefore, in my eyes be above him

What about Khan vs Haye P4P? I'd pick Haye to stop him.

sweetscience wrote:GOOD LIST though !

Horse wrote:

sweetscience wrote:this is how i view a P4P list

thats why i brought up Khan/Burns.... simerlar weights anyway.... & i think Khan would muller him & also has the better resume

therefore, in my eyes be above him

What about Khan vs Haye P4P? I'd pick Haye to stop him.

sweetscience wrote:GOOD LIST though !

yeah i agree

id say

Froch
Haye (close 2nd)
Khan
Burns

sweetscience wrote:Froch
Haye (close 2nd)
Khan
Burns

H2H that might be the right order, but if recent results are what decides the order then I think I have it right.

Good list again, it's a hard top 10 to break into, it's a hard top 15 actually, but you watch Frankie Gavin and Lee Selby gate crash it this year

jessi wrote:Good list again, it's a hard top 10 to break into, it's a hard top 15 actually, but you watch Frankie Gavin and Lee Selby gate crash it this year

It's a strong top 30 at the moment.

Wins against Vassell, M. Hatton and Bundu would probably be enough to make Gavin a contender for a top 10 spot, that might not be enough to get in the top 10 though, and I don't think he is likely to step up his opposition more than that this year. I think he'll need a few higher ranked fighters to lose to get a top 10 spot this year. I think 2014 is a more likely year for him to enter the top 10.

Selby has more of a chance of entering the top 10 if he steps up to European level, but if everyone above him keeps winning then he probably won't make it either.

If Jamie McDonnell wins his world title fight, surely, he will be top ten?

ScottDetonator wrote:If Jamie McDonnell wins his world title fight, surely, he will be top ten?

Yes, very likely.

Quigg over Frampton.

robpalmer135 wrote:Quigg over Frampton.

Frampton has had 5 wins since 2012 began, Quigg has had 2. Frampton has fought the overall better competition in that time as well, although Munroe might have been considered a better single win than either Molitor or Martinez. Frampton also fought his last fight 3 months more recently than Quigg's last fight which gives him an advantage.

I can understand why someone would have Quigg higher, but Frampton deserves to be a little higher at the moment in my opinion.