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Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 01:14
by jessi
youngrell wrote:By the way, I think Martinez wins, I'm just not ruling Murray out completely, I think he has a few gears we haven't seen yet.
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He will need those extra gears but I won't be supprised if Murray pulls off an upset
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 01:42
by polecateddy
jessi wrote:youngrell wrote:By the way, I think Martinez wins, I'm just not ruling Murray out completely, I think he has a few gears we haven't seen yet.
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He will need those extra gears but I won't be supprised if Murray pulls off an upset
I think there's a fair old danger in writing off improving fighters like Martin Murray. It isn't clearly defined how much better he is getting or what his level is. Likewise it's hard to know what level of performance the fading Martinez will produce this time. I think it's bound to be a close fight.
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 17:43
by matko
The Insider wrote:I think Murray is in with a genuine chance and has got SM at the right time. SM is a true p4p great as its widely recongnised that he's fighting above his natural weight. Murray will have to be nothing short of 100% fit and ready but he can take heart from what another big MW can do to Martinez in Chavez. Murray is an absolute beast at the weight, until you've stood next to him or been in the same room as him you just can't believe how big he is and I think he may even chop Martinez down. SM is cagey, counters well but does let off the gas in spells and if Murray can take him out of his comfort zone he's in with a shout. Oh and at 6/1 I'm taking him.
This is the best post, he is very strong for a Middleweight very well built and explosive we haven't seen the best of him yet but I believe tomorrow we will!! He is very hungry and focused has a great game plan from 1 of the best tacticians in the business!! He has a great chance Martinez is getting no younger, he is a great fighter with great timing and power but I believe Martin will come of age and a few of the boxing fraternity are swaying that way too
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 18:13
by lefty
Murray is a good fighter but he didnt exactly Take sturm to school even in giving him a tough fight! I think Macklin gave Sturm a tougher fight than Murray did but thats subjective I guess! I just struggle to see how Murray wins this aside from Martinez developing the physical capabilities of a pensioner overnight which I guess is possible but quite remote ha.
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 19:56
by TheCobra
Martinez comfortable win. Murray a good solid operator, but not on the same level.
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 02:46
by squared circle
Heart says he produces one of the greatest results in British boxing history. Seems such a grounded decent guy, where boxing has changed his life so much for the better.
Head says he goes out on his shield very late, or loses a wideish UD. Similar to both Macklin and barker in fact.
Given Macklin will likely be eaten up by GGG this summer, Murray v barker then would be a fantastic fight for sept time.
I wish him nothing but the best tonight!!!
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 11:56
by Dirk Kelly
Anyone got ideas on ring walk time tonight?
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 12:28
by greenyox3
If Murray does win, can we all agree not to start churning out the old "Martinez was past it" bullsh!t please?
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 12:33
by el_grande_mauro_mina
greenyox3 wrote:If Murray does win, can we all agree not to start churning out the old "Martinez was past it" bullsh!t please?
He is 38 - it wouldn't be outrageous to say it.
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 12:53
by greenyox3
Fat Git wrote:greenyox3 wrote:If Murray does win, can we all agree not to start churning out the old "Martinez was past it" bullsh!t please?
He is 38 - it wouldn't be outrageous to say it.
He's been pretty late with hitting his peak though. I haven't seen anything in his recent fights to indicate that he's on the slide - that tells us more than just his age.
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 15:45
by JayMc
What time is this fight on uk time ?
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 15:57
by Dirk Kelly
JayMc wrote:What time is this fight on uk time ?
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Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 17:05
by macaca
It all starts at 21.30 here so 01.30 UK time, my guess is you need to be tuned in from 01.30 UK onwards because it is raining here now and this will affect the fight time, if it goes ahead it will be 2 hours earlier than expected yesterday at 23.30, I will try to keep you all updated watching the news here
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 17:18
by Rockys gum shield
Heart of a lion and a good chin, he needs far more than this to get a result in Argentina, best he can do is raise his profile in the hope of getting another title shot in the U.K.
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 17:25
by el_grande_mauro_mina
macaca wrote:It all starts at 21.30 here so 01.30 UK time, my guess is you need to be tuned in from 01.30 UK onwards because it is raining here now and this will affect the fight time, if it goes ahead it will be 2 hours earlier than expected yesterday at 23.30, I will try to keep you all updated watching the news here
How is the coverage over there?
Re: Martin murray, can he do it?
Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 17:36
by ArtOfWar
If your looking at it logically Murray has very little chance of winning. Martinez is the much better boxer and Murray doesn't carry the kind of power to take him out. He's also not the kind of fighter to make it a war and take the difference in skill out of the equation. Only one winner here and if Murray wasn't British everyone would be moaning about how shit an opponent he is for Martinez. I'll probably look foolish in the morning now, because Murray will go and do the unthinkable.
