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loaded_gloves wrote:It's weird that there was a mass media sanctioned mockery of Audley Harrison for his self-delusion, but Amir Khan doesn't seem to get the same cruel treatment. I'm not saying that's a bad thing but my God, some of the things that come out of Amir's mouth, especially recently, are the sounds of the insane asylum.

loaded_gloves wrote:Is Gobbles code for Goebbels?

What a ridiculous thing to write. 'This century'? This 13 year long century, wow, what a long time its been.

Making an aged, shopworn Jad Zudah quit for the umpteenth time, we should celebrate Amir Khan day in the UK every time the anniversary comes around.

Deno1986 wrote:Just looking at Khan's interview with Adam Smith and he seems to be trying to convince himself that a move up in weight will give him better chin durability. I remember a similar interview when he was moving up to light welterweight. He comes across as being very low on confidence.

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:

Deno1986 wrote:Just looking at Khan's interview with Adam Smith and he seems to be trying to convince himself that a move up in weight will give him better chin durability. I remember a similar interview when he was moving up to light welterweight. He comes across as being very low on confidence.

Just psyching himself up and selling himself is all. What's he going to say?

"I'll probably be slower, get tired quicker and i dont fancy my chin at 147?"

Deno1986 wrote:

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:

Deno1986 wrote:Just looking at Khan's interview with Adam Smith and he seems to be trying to convince himself that a move up in weight will give him better chin durability. I remember a similar interview when he was moving up to light welterweight. He comes across as being very low on confidence.

Just psyching himself up and selling himself is all. What's he going to say?

"I'll probably be slower, get tired quicker and i dont fancy my chin at 147?"

Yeah that's fair enough. Unfortunately for him, no matter what weight he is at, his chin will follow. Wouldn't mind seeing him in with Alexander.

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
I still think the bigger problem is his defence rather than his chin. If he can tighten up, he'll be top 5 in any division up to 160.

loaded_gloves wrote:

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:

loaded_gloves wrote:No one needs to spell out to you the difference between sparring with headgear and big gloves and actual fighting in the ring.

Obviously.
But there is some semblance of logic to what he said. It's not like he claimed his heart defect was cured by a faith healer.

True. I suppose when a lovable personality says something nutty people take it more in good humour. When an unloveable personality says something nutty, different story.

Using Holyfield as a comparison, we might let him off because he so consistently delivered in the elite A class. Khan is one of those guys always harping on about how he is better than the A class while losing repeatedly to B class guys and blaming it on his trainers. It can grate. I'm sure he's a nice bloke personally, and those connected to him naturally give him the benefit of the doubt, but his public persona is poor.

loaded_gloves wrote:Oh, come on.

Peterson just got bombed out by Matthyse, he lost every round to Tim Bradley, lost to Ortiz, he's not A class, he's a level below. Prescott we all know his problems, Julio Diaz dragged Khan to hell after losing inside distance to Juan Diaz years ago, recently getting bombed out by Holt, Garcia has had his struggles including an ancient Judah who A class guys like Tszyu, Mayweather and Cotto beat up. Once Matthyse flattens Garcia he will be reassessed and we will have a fuller picture.

Because I don't have any jingoistic obsession with British boxers I judge them on merit.

loaded_gloves wrote:Oh, come on.

Peterson just got bombed out by Matthyse, he lost every round to Tim Bradley, lost to Ortiz, he's not A class, he's a level below. Prescott we all know his problems, Julio Diaz dragged Khan to hell after losing inside distance to Juan Diaz years ago, recently getting bombed out by Holt, Garcia has had his struggles including an ancient Judah who A class guys like Tszyu, Mayweather and Cotto beat up. Once Matthyse flattens Garcia he will be reassessed and we will have a fuller picture.

Because I don't have any jingoistic obsession with British boxers I judge them on merit.

palooka wrote:I think we're in danger of forgetting that styles make fights.

palooka wrote::) I try my best ha ha

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:

palooka wrote::) I try my best ha ha

I like a bit of gravitas, I must admit.

Trojans44 wrote:My Khan doubting record is impeccable but I do think he's given a ridiculously rough ride on these forums. Can anyone direct me to any other British fighter who has achieved anything like Khan has at his age?

He's beaten Barrera, Kotelnik, Malinaggi, Maidana and Judah. He floored Peterson and really lost because some of fairly dodgy refereeing. History has been re-written on Garcia, Khan was absolutely dominating him until he landed that huge punch.

All in all Khan is an excellent fighter with some major flaws. He's already had a career that laughs in the face of e.g. Kell Brook who older than him.

I'll leave you with this thought:

Froch rightly gains massive praise for fighting Pascal, Johnson, Ward, Taylor, Kessler and Abraham.

Is Khan's record of fighting Barrera, Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Maidana, Judah, Peterson and Garcia really that far removed from that?

Khan fights everyone but gets nothing like the same sort of praise.

palooka wrote:I must make haste, after this leaving thought; Barerra shouldn't be seen as a big accomplishment on Khans' resume; his better days were far, far away.[\b]

palooka wrote:Don't ever, ever leave this forum Galaxy; I don't know if i could stand it