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Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 14:05
by bennie
stujones wrote:I don't think we'll see him again at all.
If John Shep says he'll be back, he'll be back.

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 14:06
by theguru
THIS IS JUST A PUBLICITY STUNT TO TRY TO TAKE THE SHINE OF THE BRODI FIGHT NAZ CANT STAND TO SEE BRODIE WHO HE BEAT AS AN AMATEUR GETTING MORE PUBLICITY THAN HIM.

AND WHO IS THE WORLD CLASS TRAINER HE HAS PUTTING HIM THROUGH HIS PACES....NONE OTHER THAN ANAS OWEIDA! DONT TELL ME U HAVENT HEARD OF HIM.

ALMOST LAUGHABLE.........BUT JUST SAD REALLY.
ALL SHOOTING STARS FADE EVENTUALLY NAZ IS RIGHT UP THERE WITH TYSON,GEORGE BEST,GAZZA TO NAME A FEW WHO WASTED AND THREW AWAY THEIR TALENT.SHAME REALLY.

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 16:39
by tonyevs
Naz has the same chance as Tyson has.
A big name to get the fights and the big punch if he is lucky enough to land it.
Naz will never be the same fighter he was. He was exposed....

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 16:45
by REAL_DEAL
Hamed exposed himself

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 17:33
by Eric the Viking
REAL_DEAL wrote:Hamed exposed himself
I assume he was arrested for it?

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 17:36
by The Hawk
I often wondered to myself will he wait until Barrera was on the slide or beaten, it may have been the case.

If he comes back I will be very happy to see it, I do think he has something to offer..................but, this is crunch time for him, he cannot fight the once like he did against Calvo and then stay away. He has to keep busy and if hes training well and active, Im sure he can give a lot of fighters nightmares. I for one Im pleased to hear it, now I want it to be true.

Come on Naz!!! :lol: Prove yourself as a "Champion" this is crunch time. This is history, how you want be remembered............now is your chance to show whats left, what you can do. Will you have been a good Champion or will you be a Great Champion???

This is what its all about 8)

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 17:37
by The Hawk
Eric the Viking wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:Hamed exposed himself
I assume he was arrested for it?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 17:50
by bennie
Eric the Viking wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:Hamed exposed himself
I assume he was arrested for it?
This is too funny. :lol:

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 18:05
by stujones
Bennie

You said a few months ago that a story concerning (not a pleasant one) was going to be made public and Naz could find himself in a fair amount of trouble. A fair few of the old guard posters new exactly what you were on about, but a few (like myself) where completely flumuxed.

I'm not particularly interested in finding out what this story is (if it is made public then I will probably read it) however, with this story of a comeback - I am wandering has the "problems" that you mentioned boiled over, or could Hamed still face trouble.

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 18:10
by bennie
stujones wrote:Bennie

You said a few months ago that a story concerning (not a pleasant one) was going to be made public and Naz could find himself in a fair amount of trouble. A fair few of the old guard posters new exactly what you were on about, but a few (like myself) where completely flumuxed.

I'm not particularly interested in finding out what this story is (if it is made public then I will probably read it) however, with this story of a comeback - I am wandering has the "problems" that you mentioned boiled over, or could Hamed still face trouble.
Good question, Stu. I haven't heard any more, so assume it's all blown over, thankfully. It was all speculation anyway. Chinese whispers.

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 19:41
by ArtOfWar
Eric the Viking wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:Hamed exposed himself
I assume he was arrested for it?
Ahhhh yes very good Eric, very good indeed. :lol:

Posted: 06 Apr 2004, 21:04
by The Devil In Roy Jones
8)

wow, talk about out of the blue...

This is good news. It sets up a solid triangle in the domestic scene... the hard part is whether to go for domestic superfights, or let each fighter fight foreigners for titles.

Of course, this is based on if Harrison and Brodie keep on winning, which is by no means a certainty. :wink:

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 03:38
by Timmbo
bennie wrote: If John Shep says he'll be back, he'll be back.
Bennie,excuse my ignorance as Im fairly new here but who is John Shep?

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 03:51
by DOG
bennie wrote:Naz can come back successfully in my opinion. He fancies the Brodie challenge - a man he chinned in one round in his last amateur bout, and was hardly 'shot' when he first dropped off the scene, which is what you have to look at to gauge how successfully a fighter can come back or not.
So many fighters are 'shot' when they first walk away, then announce a return to the ring and expect to recapture their peak form. That's impossible. But Naz bust his hand early in the Calvo fight, which made it the distance fight it was. He still looked sharp in front of a non-boxing crowd just there to see a knockout.
Given a couple of warm-ups, Naz will be back up there.
I was at the Calvo fight..primarily for the Rigby/Dunne clash and Brodie too as main supports and you are spot on..."a non-boxing crowd"
It was embarrassing :oops: :oops:

what weight...

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 05:05
by Wales
At what weight is hamed hoping to make a comeback at? Must be difficult to make the 9stone limit.

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 06:53
by knockout artist
If he fights again, its because he is skint.

Re: what weight...

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 06:59
by J
Wales wrote:At what weight is hamed hoping to make a comeback at? Must be difficult to make the 9stone limit.
super middle, last I heard he was in at at around 11.5 stone.
thats alot of weight to shift.

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 07:04
by jamesmcdonnell
It is a lot of weight to shift, but come on, if he's training already, and planning to fight by late summer, let's say the end of august for the sake of argument that's plenty of time.

If he weighs 168 lbs now, he needs to lose 42 lbs. That gives him 4 months to shift the weight, which is 10 lbs a month, easily doable for a professional athelete, in fact doable for us mere mortals too.

The question is whether or not at 30 his body will be happy at 126 lbs, which is more doubtful, Hamed was always pretty thickset, if short at the weight, and he may have filled out anyway by this point.

I find it almost impossible to believe Hamed is skint, how could he be, it's not like he has some excessive lifestyle, he has been virtually invisible since his retirement, hardly whooping it up like Tyson in strip clubs.

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 07:15
by J
was ajoke mate sorry, shoule had a smilie, I agree if he is trainign you can shift that weight but I wouldnt think the way the body develops with age he would be able to make his old weight.
Still good luck to him never been a great fan of him as person but he was a talented boxer and I wish him all the best, even if I do have to eat humble pie when he comes back! :
Lifes about being proved wrong sometimes hey. :wink:

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 07:25
by Southpaw Stylist
There is no way Naz is skint. NO WAY.

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 08:42
by dondada
If he is coming back, I simply can't believe his first fight would be against a victorious Brodie for two reasons. Firstly, even Naz at his peak would have the sense to take a warm up fight. Secondly, it would be a great achievement for him to get back to 9st.

From what I understand, he is a very wealthy man.

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 08:44
by jamesmcdonnell
Last I heard was he earned a total of 45 million in his career, although to be honest these figures are usually plucked from a hat, and don't ever include training costs etc.

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 08:49
by Hardhitters11
If Naz came back and trained seriously I could confidently say he would beat either Harrison or Brodie.

HH

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 08:49
by Hardhitters11
Not in his first fight back though i dont mean

Posted: 07 Apr 2004, 09:21
by {amateur}
Naseem Hamed will kill Brodie and Harisson and any other 2 bit piece of crap that he steps in the ring with!!!