Fine analysis James.
Then of course you've got the guys like Matt Skelton who are flexible and yet still only throw arm punches because they haven't been taught any better.
Brodie vs Chi - Tactics.
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jamesmcdonnell
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I've been watching that night of combat a lot, and it explained why Kick boxers make usually shit boxers.
All of a kick boxers training is really geared towards landing kicks, which score more, and hurt more than punches. In order to be able to kick effectively with either foot in a split second, the stance needs to be square, with the weigh equally placed on both feet, a thai fighters feet are often almost level, whereas in boxing one foot is placed a shoulder width or so in front of the other most of the time.
In addition, few thai boxers are using punches to try and knock an opponent out, they are merely opportunistic strikes to set up a kick or a knee, or to score points.
I think thai boxers have a very hard time overcoming that training, and their punching technique is poor as a result.
some people are natural punchers with or without boxing training, but I would say that someone who trains the majority of their adult life as a thai boxer is going to suffer to overcome that when they turn to boxing.
All of a kick boxers training is really geared towards landing kicks, which score more, and hurt more than punches. In order to be able to kick effectively with either foot in a split second, the stance needs to be square, with the weigh equally placed on both feet, a thai fighters feet are often almost level, whereas in boxing one foot is placed a shoulder width or so in front of the other most of the time.
In addition, few thai boxers are using punches to try and knock an opponent out, they are merely opportunistic strikes to set up a kick or a knee, or to score points.
I think thai boxers have a very hard time overcoming that training, and their punching technique is poor as a result.
some people are natural punchers with or without boxing training, but I would say that someone who trains the majority of their adult life as a thai boxer is going to suffer to overcome that when they turn to boxing.
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Hardhitters11
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I havent read the thread so if im repeating what has already been said i apologize...
Brodie needs to work to the body as much as possible in the early to mid rounds and keep Chi away from him with the jab....Chi will/should come right at him making him easy to hit but not necessarily to keep off...
Brodie has to discourage him with hard vicious body combinations so that in the later rounds he can open up and use his skills and pick him apart....if he does this then a late round stoppage isnt out of the question.
HH
Brodie needs to work to the body as much as possible in the early to mid rounds and keep Chi away from him with the jab....Chi will/should come right at him making him easy to hit but not necessarily to keep off...
Brodie has to discourage him with hard vicious body combinations so that in the later rounds he can open up and use his skills and pick him apart....if he does this then a late round stoppage isnt out of the question.
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very true, you can see with skelton an the way he punches. My neighbour does a lot of thai boxing, occasionaly we train a bit more for fitness for me I hasten to add, and we have discussed this on more than one occasion, it is indeed the inclusion of the legs that make a more sqaure stance more effective both in attacking and defending, in boxing the leg obviously dont come in to play hence the more side on stance, he says stating the completely friggin obvious! ill get my coatjamesmcdonnell wrote:I've been watching that night of combat a lot, and it explained why Kick boxers make usually shit boxers.
All of a kick boxers training is really geared towards landing kicks, which score more, and hurt more than punches. In order to be able to kick effectively with either foot in a split second, the stance needs to be square, with the weigh equally placed on both feet, a thai fighters feet are often almost level, whereas in boxing one foot is placed a shoulder width or so in front of the other most of the time.
In addition, few thai boxers are using punches to try and knock an opponent out, they are merely opportunistic strikes to set up a kick or a knee, or to score points.
I think thai boxers have a very hard time overcoming that training, and their punching technique is poor as a result.
some people are natural punchers with or without boxing training, but I would say that someone who trains the majority of their adult life as a thai boxer is going to suffer to overcome that when they turn to boxing.
