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TJ77 wrote:perrsonally id love to see brit have a go vs mayweather. its not gonna be purdy or brook

Fail to see ur logic there sorry.
Why Purdy is being mentioned i dont know.
Brook has a mountain to climb Khan has fallen off his mountain and is now taking the golden boy ski lift to the top and its bollocks.How he gets a shot at the title in his first fight at 147 having just scraped past Diaz a blown up light weight and if he wins gets a shot at the p4p no1.What a croc of poo rematch Garcia like he said he was he is a joke[/quote]


If he beats Alexander, what's the problem. Brook had two chances to fight Alexander and one to fight Bradley and didn't turn up.
It seems you just hate Khan so whoever he beats, it doesn't matter, he will always be unworthy in your eyes.
He's hardly had a free ride back to the top. He lost a world title fight, had two comeback fights and then is challenging for a world title. Diaz was at least a former world champion. The only former world champion Brook has fought it Lovemore Ndou.[/quote]

Please don't be such a fool....firstly Brook was injured twice so his chances were scuppered to fight for the title at mass loss to him financially and career wise a massive set back. Hardly not turning up is it .Secondly Brook was supposedly offered Bradley 1.do you know the terms of the offer? ...thought not 2. If you are on course to a world title who would you rather fight....thought so .Bradley is a unification fight for later on not when your on your assent .Khan was ko'd by mediocre opponents twice but has been so heavily invested in they need to find a way to make it work he has fought two blown up lightweights which delivers him back to a title fight in a division his not ever fought in.
That is a free ride how you can think other wise is beyond me
Yes I hate Khan I feel with good reason and correct he will be always be unworthy in my eyes.
We can agree to disagree but lets try and be honest [/quote]


Brook pulled out twice because of foot and ankle injuries. First time he pulled out two months early because he was so overweight they didn't think he could make the weight. That shows some lack of graft to blow up so much between fights. He was at the McDonnell fight a few weeks ago and looked huge.
As for "Bradley is a unification fight for later"?? Since when did Brook get to look down his nose at Bradley? The terms would have been OK for Bradley, but with options. And fighting in the US, which wouldn't have suited Matchroom at the time as they only had 2-3 headliners then.

Brook's career is going nowhere fast. He left Warren at the start of 2011 as No 1 challenger for the WBO title. It is already two-and-a-half years later and he is no closer to boxing for a world title.

Garcia is not regarded as a mediocre opponent. Carson Jones on the other hand, certainly could be.

gobbles your way off mate and 8 weeks is plenty time to make weight anyway.
Your obviously fond of Khan and thats fine .
Kell will come back he looked huge cos he hasnt been training and has had a lot to deal with.

TJ77 wrote:gobbles your way off mate and 8 weeks is plenty time to make weight anyway.
Your obviously fond of Khan and thats fine .
Kell will come back he looked huge cos he hasnt been training and has had a lot to deal with.

I often find on here mate that if you try and defend Kell you will end up wanting to bang your head against a brick wall.

I have the concussions to prove it.

Brooks career went balls up as soon as he turned the bradely fight down. Stupid decision. I am sure the offer he got was similar to the alexander offer and beating bradely would have gotten him more recognition than beating alexander. Only has himself to blame. Its set his career back 2 years. Should have took the fight and we would have found out by now if he was the real deal or nothing but hype

rio wrote:Brooks career went balls up as soon as he turned the bradely fight down. Stupid decision. I am sure the offer he got was similar to the alexander offer and beating bradely would have gotten him more recognition than beating alexander. Only has himself to blame. Its set his career back 2 years. Should have took the fight and we would have found out by now if he was the real deal or nothing but hype

If he hadn't got injured and had beat Alexander and was IBF champ would you be saying this in a word NO.
If he'd lost to Bradley where would he be .We don't know what the offer was how are you sure its was similar?
Seems people are convinced he is a bottler I'm convinced he isn't and choosing to fight Alexander was the best decision at the time.
Watch their fight again and tell me which route to a title you'd take.

DMA1987 wrote:

TJ77 wrote:gobbles your way off mate and 8 weeks is plenty time to make weight anyway.
Your obviously fond of Khan and thats fine .
Kell will come back he looked huge cos he hasnt been training and has had a lot to deal with.

I often find on here mate that if you try and defend Kell you will end up wanting to bang your head against a brick wall.

I have the concussions to prove it.

I hear you pal especially when the arguments put forward are rubbish gets boring.

TJ77 wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:

TJ77 wrote:gobbles your way off mate and 8 weeks is plenty time to make weight anyway.
Your obviously fond of Khan and thats fine .
Kell will come back he looked huge cos he hasnt been training and has had a lot to deal with.

I often find on here mate that if you try and defend Kell you will end up wanting to bang your head against a brick wall.

I have the concussions to prove it.

I hear you pal especially when the arguments put forward are rubbish gets boring.

The bigger point is, someone has to fight Mayweather. If Mayweather is WBC champion, a unification fight against the IBF champion is a completely adequate fight, whether that IBF champion be Alexander, Khan or Brook. The obvious advantage Khan has in getting the fight is that he has featured nurmerous times on US TV, mostly in exciting fights, so they know who he is and know that he would liekly come and give it a go, rather than do a Shane Mosley and kid his way through.

TJ77 wrote:

rio wrote:Brooks career went balls up as soon as he turned the bradely fight down. Stupid decision. I am sure the offer he got was similar to the alexander offer and beating bradely would have gotten him more recognition than beating alexander. Only has himself to blame. Its set his career back 2 years. Should have took the fight and we would have found out by now if he was the real deal or nothing but hype

If he hadn't got injured and had beat Alexander and was IBF champ would you be saying this in a word NO.
If he'd lost to Bradley where would he be .We don't know what the offer was how are you sure its was similar?
Seems people are convinced he is a bottler I'm convinced he isn't and choosing to fight Alexander was the best decision at the time.
Watch their fight again and tell me which route to a title you'd take.

I would have gone for bradely fight....the best fighters don't look for the easy route and alexander was exactly that. Beating bradely wiuld have given him way more recognition and catapulted him into a super fight....bradely is fighing marquez next and has just fought pac man....brook is fighing jones ina rematch litrally no one cares about. If brook took the fight and won the roles could have been reversed...that's what he gets for taking the easyier route. And your right if he didn't get injured and beat devon i wouldent be saying this but he did get injured and set his career back 2 years. He wont have a meaningful fight untill 2014 now unless he fighters broner, however if he turned bradely down i can hardly see him fighting broner

This fight is the end of Amir Khan.

GBP are throwing him to the wolves here, seriously - he has zero business at 147 because he can do light welter easily still.

If a former lightweight can shake him to his boots when north of 140lb then Alexander will bust the guy up.

Ive been critical of Amir for being dumb as rocks many a time on these boards, but I think he's too brave / delusional for his own good taking this one.

Garcia is getting tight at 140 and he should be calling, no demanding that instead. If he loses that, then fair enough move up and blame the weight (despite it probably being a lie) and throw the dice at 147, but otherwise he should seriously stay put.

Yeah, Alexander by KO.

G0mez wrote:This fight is the end of Amir Khan.

GBP are throwing him to the wolves here, seriously - he has zero business at 147 because he can do light welter easily still.

If a former lightweight can shake him to his boots when north of 140lb then Alexander will bust the guy up.

Ive been critical of Amir for being dumb as rocks many a time on these boards, but I think he's too brave / delusional for his own good taking this one.

Garcia is getting tight at 140 and he should be calling, no demanding that instead. If he loses that, then fair enough move up and blame the weight (despite it probably being a lie) and throw the dice at 147, but otherwise he should seriously stay put.

Agreed. I think they are just hoping to cash out on him now. I have a feeling he'll get laid out by Alexander and call it day if the formline is anything to go by: Khan scraped by Maidana but Alexander stood him on his head. Sad because he's still only 26. I hope he pulls it off though.

G0mez wrote:This fight is the end of Amir Khan.

GBP are throwing him to the wolves here, seriously - he has zero business at 147 because he can do light welter easily still.

If a former lightweight can shake him to his boots when north of 140lb then Alexander will bust the guy up.

Ive been critical of Amir for being dumb as rocks many a time on these boards, but I think he's too brave / delusional for his own good taking this one.

Garcia is getting tight at 140 and he should be calling, no demanding that instead. If he loses that, then fair enough move up and blame the weight (despite it probably being a lie) and throw the dice at 147, but otherwise he should seriously stay put.

Disagree,I feel the opposite. He is jumping over the wolves if anything. Garcia ended very badly last time he obviously could not take his power, with that in mind if he struggled with garcias power you have to think it would end very badly for amir if he fight matthysse. Instead he is bypassing them and taking on Alexander, who is a good boxing but matches up very well with kahn as he is not know for his power/1 punch knock out. IMO he has a much better chance of beating alexander than he does of beating either garcia or matthysse.

G0mez wrote:This fight is the end of Amir Khan.

GBP are throwing him to the wolves here, seriously - he has zero business at 147 because he can do light welter easily still.

If a former lightweight can shake him to his boots when north of 140lb then Alexander will bust the guy up.

Ive been critical of Amir for being dumb as rocks many a time on these boards, but I think he's too brave / delusional for his own good taking this one.

Garcia is getting tight at 140 and he should be calling, no demanding that instead. If he loses that, then fair enough move up and blame the weight (despite it probably being a lie) and throw the dice at 147, but otherwise he should seriously stay put.

If they could get to Garcia, I'm sure he'd take that. But Garcia is fighting Matthysse and no one on earth could think that's the right match for Khan.

G0mez wrote:This fight is the end of Amir Khan.

GBP are throwing him to the wolves here, seriously - he has zero business at 147 because he can do light welter easily still.

If a former lightweight can shake him to his boots when north of 140lb then Alexander will bust the guy up.

Ive been critical of Amir for being dumb as rocks many a time on these boards, but I think he's too brave / delusional for his own good taking this one.

Garcia is getting tight at 140 and he should be calling, no demanding that instead. If he loses that, then fair enough move up and blame the weight (despite it probably being a lie) and throw the dice at 147, but otherwise he should seriously stay put.

I agree. Khan is a very brave guy. He's also been unlucky. Peterson could have been a win for him. Garcia...looked like he had weathered the storm to some extent. Not saying he still wouldn't have got KO'd. But I think he looked to be boxing well...until he got caught.