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Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 13:23
by Old bones Ian
If Gavin has done the training right, then i expect him to win on points, or maybe even an injury stoppage.
I like both boxers , think we are in for a good fight
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 13:27
by TheCobra
Old bones Ian wrote:If Gavin has done the training right, then i expect him to win on points, or maybe even an injury stoppage.
I like both boxers , think we are in for a good fight
Yep, 2 great British barnstormers in 2 nights, these are the type of fights I really miss since Sky canned Friday Fight Night, so here's hoping for more of them in the future.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 13:27
by lefty
What time they expected in the ring tonight gents?
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 13:28
by lefty
Ps on a seperate note if Gavin does win tonight and looks good, how long do you reckon it will be before FW makes Hearn an offer to fight Brook? I can see that happening!
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 13:50
by Old bones Ian
columbo wrote:Ps on a seperate note if Gavin does win tonight and looks good, how long do you reckon it will be before FW makes Hearn an offer to fight Brook? I can see that happening!
Whoever wins tonight should make a move for Brook, he's hardly set the USA on fire with the pullouts (not his fault) , but he needs a high profile fight to keep his ranking and the winner of tonight would get a world ranking with a couple of the bodies
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 13:55
by palooka
Old bones Ian wrote:columbo wrote:Ps on a seperate note if Gavin does win tonight and looks good, how long do you reckon it will be before FW makes Hearn an offer to fight Brook? I can see that happening!
Whoever wins tonight should make a move for Brook, he's hardly set the USA on fire with the pullouts (not his fault) , but he needs a high profile fight to keep his ranking and the winner of tonight would get a world ranking with a couple of the bodies
Brook has to get past Jones and I'm not sure why the bout is set at above the welter limit and who that benefits.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 13:58
by ashedward
columbo wrote:Ps on a seperate note if Gavin does win tonight and looks good, how long do you reckon it will be before FW makes Hearn an offer to fight Brook? I can see that happening!
Yep,I can see it happening leading to more email waving from wazza
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 14:04
by handsofstone
i thought boxing started at 7 :??
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 14:16
by Old bones Ian
handsofstone wrote:i thought boxing started at 7 :??
Thought so to, must be 8
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 14:35
by handsofstone
Old bones Ian wrote:handsofstone wrote:i thought boxing started at 7 :??
Thought so to, must be 8
Pheww i thought Wazza pulled another show
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 14:56
by Hagler2002
columbo wrote:What time they expected in the ring tonight gents?
allegedly tweeted main event is at 10.40pm
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 14:57
by lefty
Hagler2002 wrote:columbo wrote:What time they expected in the ring tonight gents?
allegedly tweeted main event is at 10.40pm
Cheers mate
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 14:59
by palooka
Hagler2002 wrote:columbo wrote:What time they expected in the ring tonight gents?
allegedly tweeted main event is at 10.40pm
Bastard! What's up with 9 o clock? I've to get up in the morning, got a boys night on with my lad, looking forward to the bout, will be asleep by quart to 11.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:02
by lefty
palooka wrote:Hagler2002 wrote:columbo wrote:What time they expected in the ring tonight gents?
allegedly tweeted main event is at 10.40pm
Bastard! What's up with 9 o clock? I've to get up in the morning, got a boys night on with my lad, looking forward to the bout, will be asleep by quart to 11.
Does seem late to me to be honest. Dont understand why they dont just have the main event of straight away like they used to on the sky friday night cards.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:19
by freddydoesdallas
10.40 is a bit ridiculous for a domestic fight. Not just for me but for the people attending. unless it's being screened in the US, you expect to be out of the arena for 11 at the latest
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:22
by Old bones Ian
Blimey Joe Murray is poor tonight, for a supposed top prospect.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:32
by Wrists
Gavin is in a different league to Vassell really.
One is a good domestic fighter the other is a potentially euro class or better.
All things being equal Gavin wins easily
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:34
by palooka
Wrists wrote:Gavin is in a different league to Vassell really.
One is a good domestic fighter the other is a potentially euro class or better.
All things being equal Gavin wins easily
I can't see that at all; I'm expecting a really good bout, both bring a lot to the table and there'll be maybe a round or 2 in it.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:35
by lefty
Wrists wrote:Gavin is in a different league to Vassell really.
One is a good domestic fighter the other is a potentially euro class or better.
All things being equal Gavin wins easily
The problem with Gavin is though that you never know which version of himself is gonna turn up! I genuinely think he's a special talent but weight issues and also it doesnt always seem to believe in himself has hindered him.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:45
by TheCobra
That was poor from Joe Murray, he really needs to get his career going, he's still not got going as a pro.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:46
by Old bones Ian
Lots of work for Arnie to do with Joe Murray after tonight, he looked a bit puffed after 4 rounds, timing was off, and loaded up to much.
A win is a win, but he's got to learn from tonight.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:50
by TheCobra
Not sure that Arnie will particularly improve Murray, he's nt really got a great track record so far when you look at people like Gavin/Bellew who've moved on from him and Heffron who got spanked by Vassell.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:51
by palooka
columbo wrote:Wrists wrote:Gavin is in a different league to Vassell really.
One is a good domestic fighter the other is a potentially euro class or better.
All things being equal Gavin wins easily
The problem with Gavin is though that you never know which version of himself is gonna turn up! I genuinely think he's a special talent but weight issues and also it doesnt always seem to believe in himself has hindered him.
He seems a really decent lad and don't understand all the allusions to 'personal demons' and self doubt etc; what on earth went on? He can box for fun, world at his feet; I just don't understand people sometimes, did the pressure get to him?
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:53
by palooka
TheCobra wrote:Not sure that Arnie will particularly improve Murray, he's nt really got a great track record so far when you look at people like Gavin/Bellew who've moved on from him and Heffron who got spanked by Vassell.
To be fair those 2 moved to trainers closer to their homes for commuting and personal reasons; Heffron is a strong boxer but very basic and Denton is too much a craftsman to lose to smeone so straightforward.
Re: Gavin vs Vasell
Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 15:54
by lefty
palooka wrote:columbo wrote:Wrists wrote:Gavin is in a different league to Vassell really.
One is a good domestic fighter the other is a potentially euro class or better.
All things being equal Gavin wins easily
The problem with Gavin is though that you never know which version of himself is gonna turn up! I genuinely think he's a special talent but weight issues and also it doesnt always seem to believe in himself has hindered him.
He seems a really decent lad and don't understand all the allusions to 'personal demons' and self doubt etc; what on earth went on? He can box for fun, world at his feet; I just don't understand people sometimes, did the pressure get to him?
It's a weird one huh! Some people are just more naturally confident than others though huh? It's just a part of someones character! You have people who shouldnt have any real reason to be really confident and yet they're completely full of themselves!