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squared circle wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:

squared circle wrote:No way eubanks will lose while he is the home fighter for a good while yet IMO.

Apart he gets absolutely sparked out and can't see Blackwell doing that.

He will only lose once he steps up to British title level or beyond. Meaty Mick has too many pound notes at risk

So are you hinting a boxing fix on the cards?

Not really! Just the inevitability when a "big" name home fighter fights he tends to get the nod doesn't he.

Blackwell is not quite in journeyman status yet, unlike his brother, but I'd be amazed if he were to ein on points.

Not quite a journeyman ?

He has lost to Martin Murray and gave BJS his toughest test to date so how do you come to that conclusion ?

I believe blackwell has sparred eubank on a few occasions so they must have seen something they think they can exploit but blackwell can take this so long as he doesnt get lost i the occassion like against BJS

Nick Blackwell is the perfect fight to see how good Eubank Jnr is. Fairness to Hennessey apart from the 6 months break this year he had been great with Chris in terms of matching and activity.

Nicks no mug and I give him a chance of beating Eubank Jr ( IMHO he has a better chance of a win than Tyson Fury in the main event ).

Naandrew wrote:Nick Blackwell is the perfect fight to see how good Eubank Jnr is. Fairness to Hennessey apart from the 6 months break this year he had been great with Chris in terms of matching and activity.

Nicks no mug and I give him a chance of beating Eubank Jr ( IMHO he has a better chance of a win than Tyson Fury in the main event ).

after the old man coated james degale 4 getting it all to easy silver spoon ect he won a gold medal eubank jr public school boy lol

wappingboy wrote:

Naandrew wrote:Nick Blackwell is the perfect fight to see how good Eubank Jnr is. Fairness to Hennessey apart from the 6 months break this year he had been great with Chris in terms of matching and activity.

Nicks no mug and I give him a chance of beating Eubank Jr ( IMHO he has a better chance of a win than Tyson Fury in the main event ).

after the old man coated james degale 4 getting it all to easy silver spoon ect he won a gold medal eubank jr public school boy lol

i agree nick will beat the public schoolboy he can't even talk if i was chris snr ide want me money back

Ive never really rated Eubank Jnr. I dont think there is anything special about him!

columbo wrote:Ive never really rated Eubank Jnr. I dont think there is anything special about him!

Liked him a lot at the start, seems to have levelled off lately. I don't know if thats because he isn't taking it as seriously as he should, his talent level or both. Beating Carruthers in your 5th fight and Pryce in your 7/8th isn't poor form, especially when you don't have much amateur experience.

DMA1987 wrote:

columbo wrote:Ive never really rated Eubank Jnr. I dont think there is anything special about him!

Liked him a lot at the start, seems to have levelled off lately. I don't know if thats because he isn't taking it as seriously as he should, his talent level or both. Beating Carruthers in your 5th fight and Pryce in your 7/8th isn't poor form, especially when you don't have much amateur experience.

He just seems to end up brawling too much in his more recent fights and it doesnt seem like he really has the power to do that ya know.

columbo wrote:Ive never really rated Eubank Jnr. I dont think there is anything special about him!

just that his old man wasn't a bad old fighter he got so many decisions go his way when i think about it he was not all that

columbo wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:

columbo wrote:Ive never really rated Eubank Jnr. I dont think there is anything special about him!

Liked him a lot at the start, seems to have levelled off lately. I don't know if thats because he isn't taking it as seriously as he should, his talent level or both. Beating Carruthers in your 5th fight and Pryce in your 7/8th isn't poor form, especially when you don't have much amateur experience.

He just seems to end up brawling too much in his more recent fights and it doesnt seem like he really has the power to do that ya know.

Oh I feel you mate, lately I am not impressed at all. Next few fights will be where I either keep or give up the faith.

columbo wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:

columbo wrote:Ive never really rated Eubank Jnr. I dont think there is anything special about him!

Liked him a lot at the start, seems to have levelled off lately. I don't know if thats because he isn't taking it as seriously as he should, his talent level or both. Beating Carruthers in your 5th fight and Pryce in your 7/8th isn't poor form, especially when you don't have much amateur experience.

He just seems to end up brawling too much in his more recent fights and it doesnt seem like he really has the power to do that ya know.

Oh I feel you mate, lately I am not impressed at all. Next few fights will be where I either keep or give up the faith.[/quote]

I wouldnt fancy his chances against BJS and Ryder and guys of that calibre going on recent performances.

columbo wrote:
I wouldnt fancy his chances against BJS and Ryder and guys of that calibre going on recent performances.

Can't argue with that.

DMA1987 wrote:

columbo wrote:
I wouldnt fancy his chances against BJS and Ryder and guys of that calibre going on recent performances.

Can't argue with that.

I think BJS vs Ryder is closer than a lot of people think aswell! I think BJS is probably the better boxer of the two but certain things Ryder does are very slick. His upper body movement is impressive and seems to be a bigger puncher than Saunders aswell.

columbo wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:

columbo wrote:Ive never really rated Eubank Jnr. I dont think there is anything special about him!

Liked him a lot at the start, seems to have levelled off lately. I don't know if thats because he isn't taking it as seriously as he should, his talent level or both. Beating Carruthers in your 5th fight and Pryce in your 7/8th isn't poor form, especially when you don't have much amateur experience.

He just seems to end up brawling too much in his more recent fights and it doesnt seem like he really has the power to do that ya know.

I think thats part of Eubanks problem, he has no power. He also doesnt have a personality. To be honest if he started out like his dad all cock sure and making the public hate him he proberly would have attracted more attention. Without personality or power there is nothing for you. I cannot see him making world class or getting a world title shot. I think he will only go domestic level and proberly lose within the next 4 or 5 fights.

In the next few months we could see Mr Warren's 2 main fighters in Chisora and Cleverly both lose and two of Mr Hennessy's big names in Tyson Fury and Eubank Jr lose.

Not saying it would put either out of business but it could be about to get worse before it gets any better.

jameswilson wrote:In the next few months we could see Mr Warren's 2 main fighters in Chisora and Cleverly both lose and two of Mr Hennessy's big names in Tyson Fury and Eubank Jr lose.

Not saying it would put either out of business but it could be about to get worse before it gets any better.

The way Eddie is going he is going to get Groves stopped by Froch, Froch beat by Ward, Bellew knocked out by Stevenson, Brook beat by the first top class fighter he meets and Barker beaten by Geale...

mickey1975 wrote:

jameswilson wrote:In the next few months we could see Mr Warren's 2 main fighters in Chisora and Cleverly both lose and two of Mr Hennessy's big names in Tyson Fury and Eubank Jr lose.

Not saying it would put either out of business but it could be about to get worse before it gets any better.

The way Eddie is going he is going to get Groves stopped by Froch, Froch beat by Ward, Bellew knocked out by Stevenson, Brook beat by the first top class fighter he meets and Barker beaten by Geale...

Groves isn't really his fighter. I'm sure he's wanting Froch to win anyway. Bellew and Barker are in good 50/50 contests can't say fairer than that

jackukmma wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

jameswilson wrote:In the next few months we could see Mr Warren's 2 main fighters in Chisora and Cleverly both lose and two of Mr Hennessy's big names in Tyson Fury and Eubank Jr lose.

Not saying it would put either out of business but it could be about to get worse before it gets any better.

The way Eddie is going he is going to get Groves stopped by Froch, Froch beat by Ward, Bellew knocked out by Stevenson, Brook beat by the first top class fighter he meets and Barker beaten by Geale...

Groves isn't really his fighter. I'm sure he's wanting Froch to win anyway. Bellew and Barker are in good 50/50 contests can't say fairer than that

Chisora and Clev are in 50/50 fights. I would certainly make both Boomer and Barker outsiders.

mickey1975 wrote: Chisora and Clev are in 50/50 fights. I would certainly make both Boomer and Barker outsiders.

Boomer ( ) is an outsider, I have Barker slightly ahead of Geale.

As for Clev, I don't see that as a 50/50

DMA1987 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote: Chisora and Clev are in 50/50 fights. I would certainly make both Boomer and Barker outsiders.

Boomer ( ) is an outsider, I have Barker slightly ahead of Geale.

As for Clev, I don't see that as a 50/50

Geale isnt that great. Ive watched a few of his fights and he tends to just throw a high volume of punches. He's not particularily a powerful either. Im sure he's the weakest world champ out there.

columbo wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote: Chisora and Clev are in 50/50 fights. I would certainly make both Boomer and Barker outsiders.

Boomer ( ) is an outsider, I have Barker slightly ahead of Geale.

As for Clev, I don't see that as a 50/50

Geale isnt that great. Ive watched a few of his fights and he tends to just throw a high volume of punches. He's not particularily a powerful either. Im sure he's the weakest world champ out there.

Well then maybe Barker will give me a good birthday present!

columbo wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote: Chisora and Clev are in 50/50 fights. I would certainly make both Boomer and Barker outsiders.

Boomer ( ) is an outsider, I have Barker slightly ahead of Geale.

As for Clev, I don't see that as a 50/50

Geale isnt that great. Ive watched a few of his fights and he tends to just throw a high volume of punches. He's not particularily a powerful either. Im sure he's the weakest world champ out there.

Well then maybe Barker will give me a good birthday present![/quote]

I think Barker has a very good chance in that fight! I think thats why Hearn and him went after that fight. The other champions are very tough fights.

columbo wrote:
I think Barker has a very good chance in that fight! I think thats why Hearn and him went after that fight. The other champions are very tough fights.

You are right there, if Barker doesn't beat Geale then its game over really. Think he wins just hope he doesn't let Geale back into it late.

I think Barker is the most overrated fighter of our Middleweights.

mickey1975 wrote:I think Barker is the most overrated fighter of our Middleweights.

Depends how far gone Martinez was when he beat Murray. And how good he was when he beat Barker.

I feel that Barker probably beats the Martinez that Murray faced.