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Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 08:32
by thepocketrocket
orbtastic wrote:Fast Eddy Smulders was good, he was a very hard puncher. I think he ended up in prison for a bit. He was originally a kick boxer.
Remember his fight with Lou Delle Valle being on ITV
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 08:44
by orbtastic
thepocketrocket wrote:orbtastic wrote:Fast Eddy Smulders was good, he was a very hard puncher. I think he ended up in prison for a bit. He was originally a kick boxer.
Remember his fight with Lou Delle Valle being on ITV
It was on SKY?
He used to be on Eurosport a fair bit, I remember him hammering Dirk Wallyn and having Tiozzo in all sorts of trouble before getting stopped.
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 01:48
by ERIC GUY
John Emmen, who boxed Bruno,
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 02:12
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Name the Englishman who fought for the Dutch title in the last 10 years?
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 02:29
by Old bones Ian
Fat Git wrote:Name the Englishman who fought for the Dutch title in the last 10 years?
Wasn't that John Keeton? Not quite sure how he qualified for that, as he is quite British

Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 03:40
by grub
ringtoneboxing wrote:When I think of Dutch boxing I'm reminded of a heavyweight father and son that fought each other quite recently too. The names escape me but they were often found at small hall shows in Germany.
Harry Duiven Jnr and Snr
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 04:59
by thepocketrocket
orbtastic wrote:thepocketrocket wrote:orbtastic wrote:Fast Eddy Smulders was good, he was a very hard puncher. I think he ended up in prison for a bit. He was originally a kick boxer.
Remember his fight with Lou Delle Valle being on ITV
It was on SKY?
He used to be on Eurosport a fair bit, I remember him hammering Dirk Wallyn and having Tiozzo in all sorts of trouble before getting stopped.
Was it on SKY?? My memory is fading as the years roll on

Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 06:23
by orbtastic
I re-watched it the other day, was deffo shown on SKY. I remember watching it so it must have been.
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 06:41
by thepocketrocket
orbtastic wrote:I re-watched it the other day, was deffo shown on SKY. I remember watching it so it must have been.
Sounds right, I seem to remember it being shown as an added extra on another big show (like between fights)
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 14:44
by Adam1991
Dixonian wrote:Stephen Danyo currently 2-0. Talented Dutch amateur but pro career seems to have been frozen by a contract dispute.
Brian Rose spars him most camps and rates him highly, very slick!!
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 14:53
by macaca
Arnold Vanderlyde
That is about as good as it gets people
note to self ...... don't google again "dutch fisters"
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 15:01
by macaca
Richel Hersisia
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 18:10
by IRLangmaid25
TheCobra wrote:They're all too busy chilling out schmoking weed.
While caravanning. The Dutch love their caravans.
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 19:13
by macaca
IRLangmaid25 wrote:TheCobra wrote:They're all too busy chilling out schmoking weed.
While caravanning. The Dutch love their caravans.
And bikes, mayo on fries, turn up trousers and fisting
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 20:02
by Old bones Ian
and chocolate hundreds and thousands on toast for breakfast.
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 22:53
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Old bones Ian wrote:Fat Git wrote:Name the Englishman who fought for the Dutch title in the last 10 years?
Wasn't that John Keeton? Not quite sure how he qualified for that, as he is quite British

Wouldn't mind knowing myself - Sheffield has no dykes, clogs, windmills etc.
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 09:06
by macaca
Fat Git wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:Fat Git wrote:Name the Englishman who fought for the Dutch title in the last 10 years?
Wasn't that John Keeton? Not quite sure how he qualified for that, as he is quite British

Wouldn't mind knowing myself - Sheffield has no
dykes, clogs, windmills etc.
Like the wall that stops water or the scissoring smashing pasties kind?
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 10:00
by reggaereggae
macaca wrote:IRLangmaid25 wrote:TheCobra wrote:They're all too busy chilling out schmoking weed.
While caravanning. The Dutch love their caravans.
And bikes, mayo on fries, turn up trousers and fisting
Jaysus wept!!!!
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 11:37
by bennie
Rudi Koopmans is one of the greatest Dutch fighters of all time; he held the European light-heavyweight title for several years and challenged for a major world title in the States, losing on cuts.
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 26 Jul 2013, 14:34
by Bricks
Food for thought thread.the Dutch are one of Europe's biggest nations and probably the leading nation in terms of k1 kickboxing must thai at an elite level and their football hooligans were the only ones able to give the English a run in the 70s and 80 s also a former empire nation.......mind boggling no one firebombing vastly better paid pro boxing
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 26 Jul 2013, 14:46
by CiganoBoxer
Tyson Furys mate Albert ''The Hurricane'' Kraus is a dutch gypsy and a pretty good kickboxer ,Peter Fury told me himself that hes done some work with Albert who was toying with the idea of having some pro boxing fights , Peter really rated him ,said it was a waste of talent him kickboxing all these years .
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 08:26
by nfc90210
mrpedigree wrote:Tyson Furys mate Albert ''The Hurricane'' Kraus is a dutch gypsy and a pretty good kickboxer ,Peter Fury told me himself that hes done some work with Albert who was toying with the idea of having some pro boxing fights , Peter really rated him ,said it was a waste of talent him kickboxing all these years .
Kraus has had two pro fights (going 2-0). One in September of last year and one this past June. His kickboxing career still seems in full flow though as since last September he's also had five kickboxing bouts.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 20:01
by Flump
There was Rudi Lubbers in the 70's, went the distance with Ali and Bugner.
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 20:34
by crusader
mrpedigree wrote:Tyson Furys mate Albert ''The Hurricane'' Kraus is a dutch gypsy and a pretty good kickboxer ,Peter Fury told me himself that hes done some work with Albert who was toying with the idea of having some pro boxing fights , Peter really rated him ,said it was a waste of talent him kickboxing all these years .
Kraus is a very good kickboxer and he won the inaugural K1 World Max GP tournament, which was arguably the most prestigious kickboxing tournament at his weight. I doubt, however, that his boxing was good enough for him to make more $$$ boxing than kickboxing, and given the former's larger talent pool he probably wouldn't have competed at such a high level (e.g. winning credible world titles, beating world class opponents, etc). You never know though.
I was unaware that he is a gypsy. I'd be interested in seeing a list of gypsy combat athletes who aren't British or Irish.
Re: Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 21:09
by Flashing Blade
grub wrote:ringtoneboxing wrote:When I think of Dutch boxing I'm reminded of a heavyweight father and son that fought each other quite recently too. The names escape me but they were often found at small hall shows in Germany.
Harry Duiven Jnr and Snr
Harry Duiven Jr fought on an MMA show in Doncaster today. He got disqualified for and illegal blow to the back of the head.