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Re: Joe Calzaghe adopted his style because of his glass hands?

Posted: 01 Sep 2013, 06:28
by stevedoc
mickey1975 wrote:
stevedoc wrote:calzaghe was a real banger i think he won 21 of his first 22 fights by KO not bad for a slapper
He did. Bobby Jo Edwards took him the distance. Eubanks cousin. Chin like Chris as well... Saw him lose a dodgy decision to Michael Gale in Leeds.
it amazes me that the yanks think of joe as a feather fisted weak chinned fighter that just had a high work rate . if calzaghe never had hand trouble he would of been even better .

Re: Joe Calzaghe adopted his style because of his glass hands?

Posted: 01 Sep 2013, 06:53
by polecateddy
stevedoc wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
stevedoc wrote:calzaghe was a real banger i think he won 21 of his first 22 fights by KO not bad for a slapper
He did. Bobby Jo Edwards took him the distance. Eubanks cousin. Chin like Chris as well... Saw him lose a dodgy decision to Michael Gale in Leeds.
it amazes me that the yanks think of joe as a feather fisted weak chinned fighter that just had a high work rate . if calzaghe never had hand trouble he would of been even better .
He was a cruiser wasn't he. I think they put Joe in with him to get some rounds in, as he was blowing through everyone. From memory Steve Wilson was another good fighter he breezed through. Somewhere is the 'dark days' of his reign - David Starie, certainly Rick blooming Thornberry - the hands became a liability and he modified (or moderated) his punching power.

Re: Joe Calzaghe adopted his style because of his glass hands?

Posted: 01 Sep 2013, 08:57
by expe
polecateddy wrote:
stevedoc wrote:
mickey1975 wrote: He did. Bobby Jo Edwards took him the distance. Eubanks cousin. Chin like Chris as well... Saw him lose a dodgy decision to Michael Gale in Leeds.
it amazes me that the yanks think of joe as a feather fisted weak chinned fighter that just had a high work rate . if calzaghe never had hand trouble he would of been even better .
He was a cruiser wasn't he. I think they put Joe in with him to get some rounds in, as he was blowing through everyone. From memory Steve Wilson was another good fighter he breezed through. Somewhere is the 'dark days' of his reign - David Starie, certainly Rick blooming Thornberry - the hands became a liability and he modified (or moderated) his punching power.
He didn't manage to do any sparring for those fights because of the hand problems, that was around when they started to kick in for the second time.

Re: Joe Calzaghe adopted his style because of his glass hands?

Posted: 01 Sep 2013, 09:38
by JC
daviddee wrote:Jeff Lacy said after the fight that he slaps very hard. Was made into a joke. Joe is the greatest fighter to ever come out of the uk. There should be no doubt in that. Boxers get bad hands and that's part in parcel but end of the day he kept moving forward and ended up undefeated... Undisputed.. Super Middle and Light Heavyweight champion and genuinely the best in the World at both weights.. If his hands were fine would he have been even better? I think he would have.. He wouldn't have retired as quick and we would have seen him up at cruiserweight!! If people can watch some of his early fights he was unbelievable fast hands, great movement , good combination, excellent killer instinct and very heavy hands!! He would have beat Roy Jones Jnr and Hopkins... Prime for prime and obviously beat then anyway and convincingly!! He would have destroyed and toyed with Froch... And I believe he would have had too high of a work rate for Ward... He deserves a lot more credit than he gets on here!!
He is obviously in the argument, but I don't think you can say there's no doubt.

Re: Joe Calzaghe adopted his style because of his glass hands?

Posted: 01 Sep 2013, 15:48
by matko
He did. Bobby Jo Edwards took him the distance. Eubanks cousin. Chin like Chris as well... Saw him lose a dodgy decision to Michael Gale in Leeds.[/quote]

He was a cruiser wasn't he. I think they put Joe in with him to get some rounds in, as he was blowing through everyone. From memory Steve Wilson was another good fighter he breezed through. Somewhere is the 'dark days' of his reign - David Starie, certainly Rick blooming Thornberry - the hands became a liability and he modified (or moderated) his punching power.[/quote]

Bobbi Joe supposdley hurt Joe briefly with a big right hand i think Oliver Harrison was in Bobbi's corner that night, shows Oliver been around a while before people realise
I used to enjoy watching Starie remember Dean Francis stopping him when he looked unstoppable himself but Starie had great boxing skills remember him out pointing Clinton woods!!