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Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 12:07
by lefty
Parson Cross wrote:How much more do you think the Promotors would have made if they'd stacked the undercard ?
Answer is zero.
The alter ego is that the Promotor would have made less money had they done so.
Sooner or later people will wake up to the fact that boxing is foremost a business not a sport when we get to these levels.
Sadly the fans are mere pawns in a money making sausage machine.
Upset about it ?
Don't buy the PPV.
Hundreds of thousands will, to see the main event whether its 3 minutes or 36 minutes.
Yeah but with that attitude fans will eventually be turned off the sport and promoters wont make fornicate all.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 12:08
by palooka
Parson Cross wrote:Aka Beirut.
I have always bowed in the presence of people from Dore and Totley.
As well you should
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 12:24
by Parson Cross
Columbo,
It's not a new trend and no the lemins that are boxing fans me included will keep coming back for more.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 12:26
by Parson Cross
In fact I'll be doing that very thing tonight in the company of the snobs Nelson and Graham.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 12:27
by WelshJack
jharnett8 wrote:i'm travelling from London for this (to support Haye) and am disappointed at the undercard but will make it a good night anyway. Will be good to see Jumah in action after the hype; good to see Luke Campbell out again before the hull show; Quigg will be a close fight and the usual Hughie Fury & Eubank Jr will be interesting to see if their fights are against tougher opposition, albeit unlikely. And of course Andy Lee.
Anyone know who Paddy Murphy is though? Still expect 2-3 more additions at lower round fights though, doors open at 6 and apparently ringwalk for the main fight is at 10.30 so may be tight.....
Never knew Luke Campbell was on it fantastic looking forward to seeing all the young prospects in action, making the trip from Cardiff. GET YOUR FURY ON.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 12:28
by lefty
Parson Cross wrote:Columbo,
It's not a new trend and no the lemins that are boxing fans me included will keep coming back for more.
It's disappointing though.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 12:29
by palooka
Parson Cross wrote:In fact I'll be doing that very thing tonight in the company of the snobs Nelson and Graham.
Then; please, doff your cap twice to them both for me; Bomber Graham was my outright boxing hero as a teen and as time has gone on I appreciate how disciplined Johnny Nelson has been and think how he conducts himself is something else

Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 12:31
by Parson Cross
I will mate. Great lads, great company and we're doing our bit for Weston Park Cancer Charity - and havin a ball at the same time !
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 12:35
by palooka
Parson Cross wrote:I will mate. Great lads, great company and we're doing our bit for Weston Park Cancer Charity - and havin a ball at the same time !
I bumped into Bomber Graham in about 87 in the Sheaf Market, I'd just bought The Ring magazine (I can remember it like yesterday though I was 17 years old!) Michael Olajide was on the cover and there was a write up about Bomber and the Ingle gym; I was so surprised to see Herol that I didn't think to ask him if he'd sign it - I was amazed at how slight he seemed. Hope you have a great night and raise a lot of cash

Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 13:04
by rio
columbo wrote:Parson Cross wrote:How much more do you think the Promotors would have made if they'd stacked the undercard ?
Answer is zero.
The alter ego is that the Promotor would have made less money had they done so.
Sooner or later people will wake up to the fact that boxing is foremost a business not a sport when we get to these levels.
Sadly the fans are mere pawns in a money making sausage machine.
Upset about it ?
Don't buy the PPV.
Hundreds of thousands will, to see the main event whether its 3 minutes or 36 minutes.
Yeah but with that attitude fans will eventually be turned off the sport and promoters wont make eff all.
Magnificent 7 card by warren and last weeks mayweather card with 3 world title fights contradict that. As I am assuming these shiws were profitable.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 13:12
by dbflex
rio wrote:columbo wrote:Parson Cross wrote:How much more do you think the Promotors would have made if they'd stacked the undercard ?
Answer is zero.
The alter ego is that the Promotor would have made less money had they done so.
Sooner or later people will wake up to the fact that boxing is foremost a business not a sport when we get to these levels.
Sadly the fans are mere pawns in a money making sausage machine.
Upset about it ?
Don't buy the PPV.
Hundreds of thousands will, to see the main event whether its 3 minutes or 36 minutes.
Yeah but with that attitude fans will eventually be turned off the sport and promoters wont make eff all.
Magnificent 7 card by warren and last weeks mayweather card with 3 world title fights contradict that. As I am assuming these shiws were profitable.
Magnificent 7 was stacked because it not have a stand-out main event that would attract the mainstream in droves. And comparing US ppvs to UK is misleading. In the US there is a lot more competition and ppv is far more expensive so promoters are forced to stack shows.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 13:27
by Andrew
Still better than the Haye Fraudley undercard. Anyone recall Barry Mcguigan and Johnny Nelson bickering for ages about tactics and those videos before the fight.
Yes Groves v Kenny Anderson was quality but I'm sure that was done at pretty short notice.
Scott Quigg v Salinas should be good and Andy Lee will want to impress against Spada. Lee was dire against that Fitzgerald on the Frampton card. Spada has never been stopped so if Lee can do get him out of there looks good IMO.
CBA with Eubank Jr in nothing fights now should have fought someone else to properly test him after Bradley Pryce gave him a good fight.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 14:03
by n1ebf
yes but you're gonna be sharing a ring with thousands of gyppos, there'll be some great contests, don't worry
I am joking by the way ;;-) , I have nowt against travellers or anybody for that matter. I saw 3 or 4 unofficial fights at Khan- Diaz that weren't on the card. Some massive bell-ends go to the big shows and this one turns me right off.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 14:15
by Final round
palooka wrote:Parson Cross wrote:What is acid mate ?
Stop it Parson

LSD
you and your bloody window panes
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 14:18
by palooka
Final round wrote:palooka wrote:Parson Cross wrote:What is acid mate ?
Stop it Parson

LSD
you and your bloody window panes

you had an enlightening experience too?
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 14:28
by Final round
palooka wrote:

you had an enlightening experience too?

self prescribed at an early age, distant memory's

Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 14:30
by Final round
I'm buying the PPV and not even looked at the undercard unbelievably! I can't miss it.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 15:43
by Mimmy
All the undercard moaners need to think about how fast this main event sold out? Then you need to think about what kind of fight this is in terms of decibels. The crowd will be electric the sound deafening this is the biggest heavyweight domestic fight since Bruno v Lewis. We are in a recession in boxing terms with absolutely zero talent in the heavyweight ranks. These 2 boxers must be the biggest names of 2013, there are no Yanks around this time to take away the glory of a fine exhibition of pure heavyweight talent that is homegrown. Come 1 week tomorrow those who attend are going to witness something either very special or a very big shock. Either way you will not forget this showdown in a hurry. Keep hold of your program to show the grand kids and at least you can say, when others say 'where where you when JFK was shot?' 'I was there the night ???? was laid flat on his back and did not make the 10 count'
Forget the history, live in the now, come 28th September theres gonna be fireworks!!
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 16:46
by n1ebf
just looked at it.
6 fights are on the Boxrec schedule with 8 days to go.
3 of those fights are lads with 11, 8 and 2 fights - all fighting TBA.
PPV?

Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 20 Sep 2013, 17:03
by Tom Ford
Haye just wants our money. Greed.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 03:13
by mickey1975
Not one person who has mentioned the fight to me(hundreds by the way), have mentioned anything of the undercard, except a few who have asked if "Fury's cousin is fighting". Even if Macklin-Murray was on the undercard, 99% of the buyers would talk through it and look forward to the main event. Its ALL about the main event. Personally, im quite impressed with the line up, I expected a lot worse.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 04:36
by earsjohn
Tom Ford wrote:Haye just wants our money. Greed.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. It really is that simple.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 04:43
by Wrists
columbo wrote:Parson Cross wrote:How much more do you think the Promotors would have made if they'd stacked the undercard ?
Answer is zero.
The alter ego is that the Promotor would have made less money had they done so.
Sooner or later people will wake up to the fact that boxing is foremost a business not a sport when we get to these levels.
Sadly the fans are mere pawns in a money making sausage machine.
Upset about it ?
Don't buy the PPV.
Hundreds of thousands will, to see the main event whether its 3 minutes or 36 minutes.
Yeah but with that attitude fans will eventually be turned off the sport and promoters wont make eff all.
No they won't, people will always watch, buy tickets etc etc for a main event like this.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 07:03
by Parson Cross
Rio,
Please compare apples with apples.
The biggie in Vegas compared to Haye v Fury ?
From a business perspective Harvey Nicks v Primark.
Also I would say to you that you need to ask Wazza how much he LOST Magnificent 7 night.
Re: Haye v Fury Undercard is a joke
Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 07:11
by Finn
who's actually on the undercard. Ive got to be honest i dont really care i like one or two decent warm up fights then the main even when ive got my mates round for the fight gives us time to drink and eat chilli.